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Re: PHP's "Favorite Time of the Year" Mock Offseason

Post by YikesVikes » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:56 pm

Texas Vike wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:53 pm
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Correct me if I'm wrong but can't we cut Reiff for 2 million in dead money post June 1st?
IIRC, it is more like 6 million.
I'm sure it's 2.4 this year and 4 next year.
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Re: PHP's "Favorite Time of the Year" Mock Offseason

Post by CharVike » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:31 am

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I wonder if we will move on from Griffen. That will be the most interesting storyline of our current players.
I hate to say it, but if Spielman and Zimmer don't move on from Griffen I'll be very shocked. The Vikings have guys behind him who can play. To be honest, I didn't notice much of a dropoff when Griffen was out. This isn't even a money thing - this is a professional and team chemistry thing.
Griff is done here. You can't count on a player who could drop off the map at any moment. Now of course any player could do that but Griff has already proven that he has major issues and will do it. Can't see the Vikes keeping him.
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Re: PHP's "Favorite Time of the Year" Mock Offseason

Post by fiestavike » Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:01 pm

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Hmmm.... I mean if they keep anyone on this OL outside of O'Neill and Elflein, I'd rather it be Reiff than Remmers or Compton. However, I'm not sure how I feel about this. We tried to do this with Remmers and it failed badly.
The difference is that we moved Remmers to guard out of necessity, while we'd be moving Reiff because he may actually be better suited to playing guard. The knock on Reiff at tackle is that he has relatively short arms, so he struggles against speed. You correctly pointed out the issues he had with Jerry Hughes. The lack of arm length wouldn't hurt Reiff at guard, while his strength would be an asset.

A move to guard might actually make Reiff -- and the Vikings -- better.
I agree. Reiff might be an excellent Guard. While it wouldn't be popular (or wise) to stand pat at OL, its fun to imagine how one might reconfigure this offensive line with guys only currently on the roster. Is it possible that they might show dramatic improvement within a new system? We do have a pretty athletic group of smallish OL, who might look a lot better under Kubiak's system than they did last year.

A lineup of O'Neill, Reiff, Elflein, _______, Remmers might leave only one glaring hole.
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Re: PHP's "Favorite Time of the Year" Mock Offseason

Post by YikesVikes » Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:46 pm

:rofl: :rofl:
fiestavike wrote:
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J. Kapp 11 wrote:
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The difference is that we moved Remmers to guard out of necessity, while we'd be moving Reiff because he may actually be better suited to playing guard. The knock on Reiff at tackle is that he has relatively short arms, so he struggles against speed. You correctly pointed out the issues he had with Jerry Hughes. The lack of arm length wouldn't hurt Reiff at guard, while his strength would be an asset.

A move to guard might actually make Reiff -- and the Vikings -- better.
I agree. Reiff might be an excellent Guard. While it wouldn't be popular (or wise) to stand pat at OL, its fun to imagine how one might reconfigure this offensive line with guys only currently on the roster. Is it possible that they might show dramatic improvement within a new system? We do have a pretty athletic group of smallish OL, who might look a lot better under Kubiak's system than they did last year.

A lineup of O'Neill, Reiff, Elflein, _______, Remmers might leave only one glaring hole.
:rofl:
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Re: PHP's "Favorite Time of the Year" Mock Offseason

Post by J. Kapp 11 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:36 pm

YikesVikes wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:56 pm
Texas Vike wrote:
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IIRC, it is more like 6 million.
I'm sure it's 2.4 this year and 4 next year.
His cap hit is $6.6 million prior to June 1, and $2.2 million post-June 1.

Vikings complete cap picture.
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Re: PHP's "Favorite Time of the Year" Mock Offseason

Post by J. Kapp 11 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:38 pm

fiestavike wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:01 pm
J. Kapp 11 wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:16 am

The difference is that we moved Remmers to guard out of necessity, while we'd be moving Reiff because he may actually be better suited to playing guard. The knock on Reiff at tackle is that he has relatively short arms, so he struggles against speed. You correctly pointed out the issues he had with Jerry Hughes. The lack of arm length wouldn't hurt Reiff at guard, while his strength would be an asset.

A move to guard might actually make Reiff -- and the Vikings -- better.
I agree. Reiff might be an excellent Guard. While it wouldn't be popular (or wise) to stand pat at OL, its fun to imagine how one might reconfigure this offensive line with guys only currently on the roster. Is it possible that they might show dramatic improvement within a new system? We do have a pretty athletic group of smallish OL, who might look a lot better under Kubiak's system than they did last year.

A lineup of O'Neill, Reiff, Elflein, _______, Remmers might leave only one glaring hole.
I'd rather see Cody Ford at one of the tackles, someone else at RG (the Cap Fairy brings us money for a FA), and Remmers flipping burgers at Burger King.

OK, that's not nice. Remmers can play O-line for the Jets or Bills or somebody. Better yet, the Bears. Keep his suckitude in the division.
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Re: PHP's "Favorite Time of the Year" Mock Offseason

Post by fiestavike » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:02 am

J. Kapp 11 wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:38 pm
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I agree. Reiff might be an excellent Guard. While it wouldn't be popular (or wise) to stand pat at OL, its fun to imagine how one might reconfigure this offensive line with guys only currently on the roster. Is it possible that they might show dramatic improvement within a new system? We do have a pretty athletic group of smallish OL, who might look a lot better under Kubiak's system than they did last year.

A lineup of O'Neill, Reiff, Elflein, _______, Remmers might leave only one glaring hole.
I'd rather see Cody Ford at one of the tackles, someone else at RG (the Cap Fairy brings us money for a FA), and Remmers flipping burgers at Burger King.

OK, that's not nice. Remmers can play O-line for the Jets or Bills or somebody. Better yet, the Bears. Keep his suckitude in the division.
Ford would be a great pick from what I've been able to investigate so far. No objection on that one.
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Re: PHP's "Favorite Time of the Year" Mock Offseason

Post by fiestavike » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:10 am

LB- Vosean Joseph- Florida

-Joseph was one of the top LBs in the country this year and can fill Barr’s spot with ease. He’s a fast sideline to sideline LB that is much better when it comes to the blitz than Barr was. He is very similar to Telvin Smith from Jacksonville. And he also has the same knock as Smith did, he could “put on weight and get stronger”. IMO, I think he will be just fine.
No objection to Vosean Joseph in particular, but I think Eric Kendricks is playing out of position at MLB and the run defense has a tendency to suffer for it. I'd really like to see Kendricks at OLB, bring in a downhill MLB to be a force in the run game, and let Wilson compete with whoever else we bring in on the other side.
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Re: PHP's "Favorite Time of the Year" Mock Offseason

Post by Pondering Her Percy » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:28 pm

fiestavike wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:10 am
LB- Vosean Joseph- Florida

-Joseph was one of the top LBs in the country this year and can fill Barr’s spot with ease. He’s a fast sideline to sideline LB that is much better when it comes to the blitz than Barr was. He is very similar to Telvin Smith from Jacksonville. And he also has the same knock as Smith did, he could “put on weight and get stronger”. IMO, I think he will be just fine.
No objection to Vosean Joseph in particular, but I think Eric Kendricks is playing out of position at MLB and the run defense has a tendency to suffer for it. I'd really like to see Kendricks at OLB, bring in a downhill MLB to be a force in the run game, and let Wilson compete with whoever else we bring in on the other side.
Agree 100%. I’ve always thought this. Another reason why I think Barr is easily replaceable. I think Kendrick’s is a legit LB. But he’s not necessarily a thumper in the middle. Joseph fills that’s void and Kendrick’s would be a legit OLB IMO
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Re: PHP's "Favorite Time of the Year" Mock Offseason

Post by StumpHunter » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:02 am

fiestavike wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:10 am
LB- Vosean Joseph- Florida

-Joseph was one of the top LBs in the country this year and can fill Barr’s spot with ease. He’s a fast sideline to sideline LB that is much better when it comes to the blitz than Barr was. He is very similar to Telvin Smith from Jacksonville. And he also has the same knock as Smith did, he could “put on weight and get stronger”. IMO, I think he will be just fine.
No objection to Vosean Joseph in particular, but I think Eric Kendricks is playing out of position at MLB and the run defense has a tendency to suffer for it. I'd really like to see Kendricks at OLB, bring in a downhill MLB to be a force in the run game, and let Wilson compete with whoever else we bring in on the other side.

We weren't actually that bad against RBs, number 8 in YPA vs RBs I believe.
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Re: PHP's "Favorite Time of the Year" Mock Offseason

Post by fiestavike » Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:29 am

StumpHunter wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:02 am
fiestavike wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:10 am


No objection to Vosean Joseph in particular, but I think Eric Kendricks is playing out of position at MLB and the run defense has a tendency to suffer for it. I'd really like to see Kendricks at OLB, bring in a downhill MLB to be a force in the run game, and let Wilson compete with whoever else we bring in on the other side.

We weren't actually that bad against RBs, number 8 in YPA vs RBs I believe.
Let's aim for #1.
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Re: PHP's "Favorite Time of the Year" Mock Offseason

Post by halfgiz » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:18 pm

fiestavike wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:10 am
LB- Vosean Joseph- Florida

-Joseph was one of the top LBs in the country this year and can fill Barr’s spot with ease. He’s a fast sideline to sideline LB that is much better when it comes to the blitz than Barr was. He is very similar to Telvin Smith from Jacksonville. And he also has the same knock as Smith did, he could “put on weight and get stronger”. IMO, I think he will be just fine.
No objection to Vosean Joseph in particular, but I think Eric Kendricks is playing out of position at MLB and the run defense has a tendency to suffer for it. I'd really like to see Kendricks at OLB, bring in a downhill MLB to be a force in the run game, and let Wilson compete with whoever else we bring in on the other side.
I agree 100%
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