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Running Game

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:24 pm
by Cardinal66
1st post, obviously we need to better our running game. Dalvin Cook is a great athlete, but his durability has to be considered. I don't know what is left on our salary cap but could we swing Le'Veon Bell?
My next question is on defense, since Everson Griffen out could we consider bringing in Brian Robison, if he would consider coming back.

Re: Running Game

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:52 pm
by dead_poet
Cardinal66 wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:24 pm
1st post,
:welcome
obviously we need to better our running game. Dalvin Cook is a great athlete, but his durability has to be considered. I don't know what is left on our salary cap but could we swing Le'Veon Bell?
No. And it's really not our backs that's the problem. It's the offensive line. Put Bell out of your head so it doesn't frustrate you. That ain't happening.
My next question is on defense, since Everson Griffen out could we consider bringing in Brian Robison, if he would consider coming back.
He probably would but I think the coaching staff really likes the young guys (Bower, Weatherly). Robison would be depth only. And I'm hoping because they haven't signed anyone yet they're still hoping Griffen comes back in a few weeks/month.

Re: Running Game

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:44 am
by 808vikingsfan
last i heard, the Vikings have about $500K left in cap space.

Re: Running Game

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:12 am
by Pondering Her Percy
Not a chance we could afford Bell but also, I dont want him. And it isnt realistic anyways. He's a problem on and off the field with his selfishness. Dalvin Cook is a good running back. Period. Yes durability worries me but we know what he can do. Latavius Murray is probably the 2nd best backup "workhorse" RB in the league behind Tevin Coleman. We have VERY good RBs. And Zimmer, announcers and myself have all said, the running game looks much worse because we were playing from behind for a while. Then we play Philly who has the #1 run defense in the NFL. I'm truly not worried about it. I think it will get going. Especially when Cook is back to full strength

Re: Running Game

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:30 am
by PacificNorseWest
I agree. I do not want him. Cap hit aside, if the Vikings wanted him right now, the price in draft picks alone would make it not worth it.

Vikings are set with Cook whenever he gets back healthy and Murray is a great fill-in.

Re: Running Game

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:39 pm
by fiestavike
Pondering Her Percy wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:12 am
Not a chance we could afford Bell but also, I dont want him. And it isnt realistic anyways. He's a problem on and off the field with his selfishness. Dalvin Cook is a good running back. Period. Yes durability worries me but we know what he can do. Latavius Murray is probably the 2nd best backup "workhorse" RB in the league behind Tevin Coleman. We have VERY good RBs. And Zimmer, announcers and myself have all said, the running game looks much worse because we were playing from behind for a while. Then we play Philly who has the #1 run defense in the NFL. I'm truly not worried about it. I think it will get going. Especially when Cook is back to full strength
Latavius is dreadful. Fourth best RB on this team.

Re: Running Game

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:40 pm
by Rhodes Closed
fiestavike wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:39 pm
Latavius is dreadful. Fourth best RB on this team.
Yeah, okay. :roll:

Re: Running Game

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:43 pm
by fiestavike
Rhodes Closed wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:40 pm
Yeah, okay. :roll:
I just remembered C.J. Ham! Murray is the 5th best RB on the team!

Re: Running Game

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:47 pm
by Rhodes Closed
fiestavike wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:43 pm
I just remembered C.J. Ham! Murray is the 5th best RB on the team!
I do hope you're joking.

Re: Running Game

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:53 pm
by fiestavike
Rhodes Closed wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:47 pm
I do hope you're joking.
Remind me the last time you saw Murray get more than 2 yards after contact, or gain a single yard without a gaping hole.

Re: Running Game

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:32 pm
by PacificNorseWest
I don't think Murray is the problem. But I will agree he's been underwhelming this season. It's not just one thing at work here...the entire mechanism of "run game" is off track.

Re: Running Game

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:56 pm
by fiestavike
PacificNorseWest wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:32 pm
I don't think Murray is the problem. But I will agree he's been underwhelming this season. It's not just one thing at work here...the entire mechanism of "run game" is off track.
Totally agree.

Re: Running Game

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:18 am
by Cliff
EAGAN, Minn. – Vikings Head Coach Mike Zimmer isn’t concerned that the Vikings are dropping back to pass an average of 45 times per game, or that Minnesota ranks 31st in the NFL in rushing yards per game.

If the formula the Vikings produce on Sunday ends with them having more points than the opponent, Zimmer is all for it.

“I don’t really care about statistics. I just want to get wins. I don’t care how we do it,” Zimmer said to the Twin Cities media at his weekly Wednesday press conference. “Obviously, I have a philosophy, but we have to do what we have to do to win football games.

“If you watch, some of these teams have been great throughout the years, they may throw it 60 times per game then they may run 50 times per game,” Zimmer added. “Whatever we have to do to win the football game is really what is important to me.”
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Re: Running Game

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:31 am
by Pondering Her Percy
fiestavike wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:39 pm
Latavius is dreadful. Fourth best RB on this team.
Not even close. I'm referring to "workhorse" RBs. Boone and Thomas arent workhorse RBs. We were 7th in the NFL last year in rushing offense. And dont say that was because of McKinnon because he actually averaged less YPC than Murray did.

You're saying Murray hasnt looked good this year....ok, who has? If others were succeeding and he wasnt, I understand. But that is far from the case. He's averaging way more YPC than Cook is this year. And we all know Cook is an all around better back. So that shows how much "this year" shows us

Re: Running Game

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:50 pm
by S197
fiestavike wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:53 pm
Remind me the last time you saw Murray get more than 2 yards after contact, or gain a single yard without a gaping hole.
On the last drive where Bailey hit the 50-yarder. I think it was a 12 yard run. Granted there was a nice hole but he did a good job of cutting and gaining a couple yards after contact. Murray isn't a guy that breaks a ton of tackles, which is admittedly weird for a guy his size but I think he shows good vision and ability to make guys miss. Similar to Cook but not quite at the same level.