Thielen is THE MAN

A forum for the hard core Minnesota Vikings fan. Discuss upcoming games, opponents, trades, draft or what ever is on the minds of Viking fans!

Moderator: Moderators

User avatar
808vikingsfan
Hall of Fame Candidate
Posts: 3514
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:45 pm
Location: Hawaii

Re: Thielen is THE MAN

Post by 808vikingsfan » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:10 pm

I'd like to see Cousins restructure to free up space.
0 x
Joined: Aug 2006
Deleted: Sept 12 2014
Reborn: Sept 17 2014

User avatar
ChicagoViking
Veteran
Posts: 270
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:04 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Thielen is THE MAN

Post by ChicagoViking » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:40 pm

808vikingsfan wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:10 pm
I'd like to see Cousins restructure to free up space.
That would be nice . . . .
0 x

mansquatch
Hall of Fame Candidate
Posts: 3585
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:44 pm
Location: Coon Rapids, MN

Re: Thielen is THE MAN

Post by mansquatch » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:17 pm

ChicagoViking wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:40 pm
That would be nice . . . .
I'd like to see you ask him that with a straight face. How is Cousins not playing up to his contract right now?
1 x
Winning is not a sometime thing it is an all of the time thing - Vince Lombardi

User avatar
Maelstrom88
Franchise Player
Posts: 482
Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:38 am

Re: Thielen is THE MAN

Post by Maelstrom88 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:44 pm

mansquatch wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:17 pm
I'd like to see you ask him that with a straight face. How is Cousins not playing up to his contract right now?
:appl: Earning every penny behind that oline.
0 x
Offseason Goal: Draft durable, tough, intelligent offensive lineman who are dependable technicians and avoid penalties aka drive killers.

User avatar
Raptorman
Hall of Fame Candidate
Posts: 3245
Joined: Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:23 pm
Location: Sebastian, FL

Re: Thielen is THE MAN

Post by Raptorman » Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:08 pm

808vikingsfan wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:10 pm
I'd like to see Cousins restructure to free up space.
He will. Maybe not this year, but I bet he never finishes this contract before they extend him.
0 x
Vikings fan since Nov. 6, 1966. Annoying Packer fans since Nov. 7, 1966

User avatar
808vikingsfan
Hall of Fame Candidate
Posts: 3514
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:45 pm
Location: Hawaii

Re: Thielen is THE MAN

Post by 808vikingsfan » Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:42 pm

mansquatch wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:17 pm
I'd like to see you ask him that with a straight face. How is Cousins not playing up to his contract right now?
With $84M, on one player, something has to give. Look at Brady. How many times has he restructured for the betterment of his team.
0 x
Joined: Aug 2006
Deleted: Sept 12 2014
Reborn: Sept 17 2014

User avatar
dead_poet
Commissioner
Posts: 24625
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:30 pm
Location: Des Moines, Iowa

Re: Thielen is THE MAN

Post by dead_poet » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:02 pm

808vikingsfan wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:42 pm
With $84M, on one player, something has to give. Look at Brady. How many times has he restructured for the betterment of his team.
Brady has made like $200M in his career (not to mention countless millions in endorsement deals). He's pretty much set for life. This is Kirk's first big payday. He's not a 10-year vet with multiple Super Bowl rings and just looking for championships. Heck, he took a few million less already to sign here than what the Jets were offering. It wouldn't shock me if he sees every dime. And he probably will. Which will be fine. The cap keeps going up anyway and we have the best cap guy in the business managing it.
1 x
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly

User avatar
808vikingsfan
Hall of Fame Candidate
Posts: 3514
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:45 pm
Location: Hawaii

Re: Thielen is THE MAN

Post by 808vikingsfan » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:18 pm

0 x
Joined: Aug 2006
Deleted: Sept 12 2014
Reborn: Sept 17 2014

User avatar
808vikingsfan
Hall of Fame Candidate
Posts: 3514
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:45 pm
Location: Hawaii

Re: Thielen is THE MAN

Post by 808vikingsfan » Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:09 pm

0 x
Joined: Aug 2006
Deleted: Sept 12 2014
Reborn: Sept 17 2014

StumpHunter
Starter
Posts: 131
Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:55 am

Re: Thielen is THE MAN

Post by StumpHunter » Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:02 pm

ChicagoViking wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:40 pm
808vikingsfan wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:10 pm
I'd like to see Cousins restructure to free up space.
That would be nice . . . .
Cousins chose 3 years because he wants to maximize his earnings. I don't really think this is going to happen.

Good joke though.
0 x

User avatar
Raptorman
Hall of Fame Candidate
Posts: 3245
Joined: Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:23 pm
Location: Sebastian, FL

Re: Thielen is THE MAN

Post by Raptorman » Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:24 pm

dead_poet wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:02 pm
808vikingsfan wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:42 pm
With $84M, on one player, something has to give. Look at Brady. How many times has he restructured for the betterment of his team.
Brady has made like $200M in his career (not to mention countless millions in endorsement deals). He's pretty much set for life. This is Kirk's first big payday. He's not a 10-year vet with multiple Super Bowl rings and just looking for championships. Heck, he took a few million less already to sign here than what the Jets were offering. It wouldn't shock me if he sees every dime. And he probably will. Which will be fine. The cap keeps going up anyway and we have the best cap guy in the business managing it.
By the end of this year Cousins will have made $72 million, and by the end of this contract, $131 million. Not like he's hurting. I will say this,I believe his contract will be restructured and extended before the middle of next year.
0 x
Vikings fan since Nov. 6, 1966. Annoying Packer fans since Nov. 7, 1966

User avatar
Bowhunting Viking
Backup
Posts: 75
Joined: Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:39 am
Location: Convoy, Ohio

Re: Thielen is THE MAN

Post by Bowhunting Viking » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:38 pm

Raptorman wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:24 pm
dead_poet wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:02 pm


Brady has made like $200M in his career (not to mention countless millions in endorsement deals). He's pretty much set for life. This is Kirk's first big payday. He's not a 10-year vet with multiple Super Bowl rings and just looking for championships. Heck, he took a few million less already to sign here than what the Jets were offering. It wouldn't shock me if he sees every dime. And he probably will. Which will be fine. The cap keeps going up anyway and we have the best cap guy in the business managing it.
By the end of this year Cousins will have made $72 million, and by the end of this contract, $131 million. Not like he's hurting. I will say this,I believe his contract will be restructured and extended before the middle of next year.
An let's dont forget he also has that huge Sleep Number bed endorsement!! :thumbsup:
0 x
I just wanna die as a Super Bowl Champion Viking Fan!!

StumpHunter
Starter
Posts: 131
Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:55 am

Re: Thielen is THE MAN

Post by StumpHunter » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:09 am

Raptorman wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:24 pm
dead_poet wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:02 pm


Brady has made like $200M in his career (not to mention countless millions in endorsement deals). He's pretty much set for life. This is Kirk's first big payday. He's not a 10-year vet with multiple Super Bowl rings and just looking for championships. Heck, he took a few million less already to sign here than what the Jets were offering. It wouldn't shock me if he sees every dime. And he probably will. Which will be fine. The cap keeps going up anyway and we have the best cap guy in the business managing it.
By the end of this year Cousins will have made $72 million, and by the end of this contract, $131 million. Not like he's hurting. I will say this,I believe his contract will be restructured and extended before the middle of next year.
So a year and a half after choosing to only sign for 3 seasons instead of 5, Cousins is going to take less money per year and extend the contract? Why?
0 x

User avatar
Raptorman
Hall of Fame Candidate
Posts: 3245
Joined: Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:23 pm
Location: Sebastian, FL

Re: Thielen is THE MAN

Post by Raptorman » Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:58 pm

StumpHunter wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:09 am
Raptorman wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:24 pm

By the end of this year Cousins will have made $72 million, and by the end of this contract, $131 million. Not like he's hurting. I will say this,I believe his contract will be restructured and extended before the middle of next year.
So a year and a half after choosing to only sign for 3 seasons instead of 5, Cousins is going to take less money per year and extend the contract? Why?
He doesn't have to take less. In the contract you can change how it's paid out over the term of the contract. For example, they can make his base pay into signing bonus which can be pushed out over 5 years. It's done all the time.
0 x
Vikings fan since Nov. 6, 1966. Annoying Packer fans since Nov. 7, 1966

StumpHunter
Starter
Posts: 131
Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:55 am

Re: Thielen is THE MAN

Post by StumpHunter » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:05 pm

Raptorman wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:58 pm
StumpHunter wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:09 am

So a year and a half after choosing to only sign for 3 seasons instead of 5, Cousins is going to take less money per year and extend the contract? Why?
He doesn't have to take less. In the contract you can change how it's paid out over the term of the contract. For example, they can make his base pay into signing bonus which can be pushed out over 5 years. It's done all the time.
Gotcha, I didn’t realize you were just looking to kick the problem further down the road.

Even if that is the plan for the Vikings, I still don’t think Cousins bites, unless every year of the extension is fully guaranteed. Probably at 30 million per year as well. That means if you are looking to alleviate 10 million from his 2020 salary and he extends for 2 more years, you are paying him 35 million per in 2021 and 2022. With 2021 ALREADY having 120 million of cap going to only 14 players (none of which is Thielen, Waynes or Cook).
0 x