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I'd like to see Cousins restructure to free up space.
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808vikingsfan wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:10 pm I'd like to see Cousins restructure to free up space.
That would be nice . . . .
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ChicagoViking wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:40 pm That would be nice . . . .
I'd like to see you ask him that with a straight face. How is Cousins not playing up to his contract right now?
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mansquatch wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:17 pm I'd like to see you ask him that with a straight face. How is Cousins not playing up to his contract right now?
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808vikingsfan wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:10 pm I'd like to see Cousins restructure to free up space.
He will. Maybe not this year, but I bet he never finishes this contract before they extend him.
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mansquatch wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:17 pm I'd like to see you ask him that with a straight face. How is Cousins not playing up to his contract right now?
With $84M, on one player, something has to give. Look at Brady. How many times has he restructured for the betterment of his team.
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808vikingsfan wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:42 pm With $84M, on one player, something has to give. Look at Brady. How many times has he restructured for the betterment of his team.
Brady has made like $200M in his career (not to mention countless millions in endorsement deals). He's pretty much set for life. This is Kirk's first big payday. He's not a 10-year vet with multiple Super Bowl rings and just looking for championships. Heck, he took a few million less already to sign here than what the Jets were offering. It wouldn't shock me if he sees every dime. And he probably will. Which will be fine. The cap keeps going up anyway and we have the best cap guy in the business managing it.
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ChicagoViking wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:40 pm
808vikingsfan wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:10 pm I'd like to see Cousins restructure to free up space.
That would be nice . . . .
Cousins chose 3 years because he wants to maximize his earnings. I don't really think this is going to happen.

Good joke though.
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dead_poet wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:02 pm
808vikingsfan wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:42 pm With $84M, on one player, something has to give. Look at Brady. How many times has he restructured for the betterment of his team.
Brady has made like $200M in his career (not to mention countless millions in endorsement deals). He's pretty much set for life. This is Kirk's first big payday. He's not a 10-year vet with multiple Super Bowl rings and just looking for championships. Heck, he took a few million less already to sign here than what the Jets were offering. It wouldn't shock me if he sees every dime. And he probably will. Which will be fine. The cap keeps going up anyway and we have the best cap guy in the business managing it.
By the end of this year Cousins will have made $72 million, and by the end of this contract, $131 million. Not like he's hurting. I will say this,I believe his contract will be restructured and extended before the middle of next year.
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Raptorman wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:24 pm
dead_poet wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:02 pm

Brady has made like $200M in his career (not to mention countless millions in endorsement deals). He's pretty much set for life. This is Kirk's first big payday. He's not a 10-year vet with multiple Super Bowl rings and just looking for championships. Heck, he took a few million less already to sign here than what the Jets were offering. It wouldn't shock me if he sees every dime. And he probably will. Which will be fine. The cap keeps going up anyway and we have the best cap guy in the business managing it.
By the end of this year Cousins will have made $72 million, and by the end of this contract, $131 million. Not like he's hurting. I will say this,I believe his contract will be restructured and extended before the middle of next year.
An let's dont forget he also has that huge Sleep Number bed endorsement!! :thumbsup:
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Raptorman wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:24 pm
dead_poet wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:02 pm

Brady has made like $200M in his career (not to mention countless millions in endorsement deals). He's pretty much set for life. This is Kirk's first big payday. He's not a 10-year vet with multiple Super Bowl rings and just looking for championships. Heck, he took a few million less already to sign here than what the Jets were offering. It wouldn't shock me if he sees every dime. And he probably will. Which will be fine. The cap keeps going up anyway and we have the best cap guy in the business managing it.
By the end of this year Cousins will have made $72 million, and by the end of this contract, $131 million. Not like he's hurting. I will say this,I believe his contract will be restructured and extended before the middle of next year.
So a year and a half after choosing to only sign for 3 seasons instead of 5, Cousins is going to take less money per year and extend the contract? Why?
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StumpHunter wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:09 am
Raptorman wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:24 pm
By the end of this year Cousins will have made $72 million, and by the end of this contract, $131 million. Not like he's hurting. I will say this,I believe his contract will be restructured and extended before the middle of next year.
So a year and a half after choosing to only sign for 3 seasons instead of 5, Cousins is going to take less money per year and extend the contract? Why?
He doesn't have to take less. In the contract you can change how it's paid out over the term of the contract. For example, they can make his base pay into signing bonus which can be pushed out over 5 years. It's done all the time.
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Raptorman wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:58 pm
StumpHunter wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:09 am
So a year and a half after choosing to only sign for 3 seasons instead of 5, Cousins is going to take less money per year and extend the contract? Why?
He doesn't have to take less. In the contract you can change how it's paid out over the term of the contract. For example, they can make his base pay into signing bonus which can be pushed out over 5 years. It's done all the time.
Gotcha, I didn’t realize you were just looking to kick the problem further down the road.

Even if that is the plan for the Vikings, I still don’t think Cousins bites, unless every year of the extension is fully guaranteed. Probably at 30 million per year as well. That means if you are looking to alleviate 10 million from his 2020 salary and he extends for 2 more years, you are paying him 35 million per in 2021 and 2022. With 2021 ALREADY having 120 million of cap going to only 14 players (none of which is Thielen, Waynes or Cook).
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