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move up

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:15 pm
by Laserman
Any chance Speilman makes a huge trade to move up in the draft? Sure wouldn't mind drafting that Def Lineman Stubbs or something like that. He looks solid and we can really use a pass rusher

Re: move up

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:55 am
by ocampo82
Laserman wrote:Any chance Speilman makes a huge trade to move up in the draft? Sure wouldn't mind drafting that Def Lineman Stubbs or something like that. He looks solid and we can really use a pass rusher

there are a few pass rushers that maybe available later in the 1st--or even in the 2nd--than Chubb. Marcus Davenport and Arden Key are solid prospects.

Since cap space will be tight the next few years I think it's more likely that RIck trades down and accumulates more picks. Two picks in this draft's 2nd round would be great considering the interior lineman that should be available in that range.

Re: move up

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:00 am
by Pondering Her Percy
ocampo82 wrote:
Laserman wrote:Any chance Speilman makes a huge trade to move up in the draft? Sure wouldn't mind drafting that Def Lineman Stubbs or something like that. He looks solid and we can really use a pass rusher

there are a few pass rushers that maybe available later in the 1st--or even in the 2nd--than Chubb. Marcus Davenport and Arden Key are solid prospects.

Since cap space will be tight the next few years I think it's more likely that RIck trades down and accumulates more picks. Two picks in this draft's 2nd round would be great considering the interior lineman that should be available in that range.
I don’t know if I see him trading down either. Mainly because if he does, we’re probably out of the first and lose the 5th year option on a player

Re: move up

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:16 am
by Norv Zimmer
If they move at all I see them moving down because usually there is some team looking to get back into the end of the first round to secure a guy they want with a guaranteed 5th round option. If Lamar Jackson is still there at 30 I can see someone trading back into the first for him, he has a high upside as an athlete.

Re: move up

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:58 am
by Norv Zimmer
The only way I see them moving up is for a great OL like Mcglinchey from ND. Why would you say we are in desperate need in pass rushing? Griffen, Hunter, Barr, Kendricks, Hitman, Richardson are all really good at rushing the passer. I agree we need depth at D line but I would rank OL way ahead of DL in terms of need.

Re: move up

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:56 pm
by YikesVikes
I would prefer to move up in the later rounds. All of these 6th rounders aren't making this team.

Re: move up

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:11 pm
by PurpleKoolaid
I dont see Rick breaking out of his pattern now, after the big signings we have had. He may try and get a few extra picks, but he wont be going for a record.

Re: move up

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:00 am
by Texas Vike
Unless a player that they are absolutely in love with falls, or they get an offer that they can't refuse, I see them standing pat.

It seems to me that Rick and Zim know that DL or OL is where we need the most improvement, and this draft seems pretty strong for both. Furthermore, there are solid prospects projected for the end of the first at those positions.

Re: move up

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:29 am
by Pondering Her Percy
Norv Zimmer wrote:The only way I see them moving up is for a great OL like Mcglinchey from ND. Why would you say we are in desperate need in pass rushing? Griffen, Hunter, Barr, Kendricks, Hitman, Richardson are all really good at rushing the passer. I agree we need depth at D line but I would rank OL way ahead of DL in terms of need.
I dont know if Mcglinchey is a "great OL". He was pretty inconsistent on tape. Definitely above average but far from great.

Re: move up

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:29 am
by Pondering Her Percy
Texas Vike wrote:Unless a player that they are absolutely in love with falls, or they get an offer that they can't refuse, I see them standing pat.

It seems to me that Rick and Zim know that DL or OL is where we need the most improvement, and this draft seems pretty strong for both. Furthermore, there are solid prospects projected for the end of the first at those positions.
Agreed 100%

Re: move up

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:11 pm
by Vikefan60
ocampo82 wrote:
Laserman wrote:Any chance Speilman makes a huge trade to move up in the draft? Sure wouldn't mind drafting that Def Lineman Stubbs or something like that. He looks solid and we can really use a pass rusher

there are a few pass rushers that maybe available later in the 1st--or even in the 2nd--than Chubb. Marcus Davenport and Arden Key are solid prospects.

Since cap space will be tight the next few years I think it's more likely that RIck trades down and accumulates more picks. Two picks in this draft's 2nd round would be great considering the interior lineman that should be available in that range.
I agree. If we can swap around and wind up with two mid to high second round picks, I think we may do better than just standing pat. I understand that some want the fifth year option that comes with a first rounder, but those have tended to become very expensive. Unless the player becomes an all Pro, they can be more harm than good.

Re: move up

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:58 am
by Laserman
I'd just like to see us get both a Def And Off lineman in this draft. Those are two places I think you can never stop addressing

Re: move up

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:45 am
by Dakotavike
I personally think this would be a great year to trade down. The problem is that I think there’s a lot of teams in the latter parts of the first round that will be looking to move back. From what I hear this isn’t a year that’s deep with true first round talent. Not everybody can trade back and at some point teams are going to have to make a pick.

Re: move up

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:30 pm
by 720pete
We have already got $36 million invested in our DL for 2018. We need to get some more offensive lineman.

Re: move up

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:48 pm
by YikesVikes
720pete wrote:We have already got $36 million invested in our DL for 2018. We need to get some more offensive lineman.
Can't think of a team as just 1 year. Next year Richardson won't be back and you will be paying a premium for his position again. 3 tech is as important as any position on the field. Don't rule out a 3 tech to groom like Hurst. If I had to put my money on it, our draft pick will be Price due to his versatility. We love versatility on the Oline (to a fault).