Brees AND Teddy for less than Cousins?

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Brees AND Teddy for less than Cousins?

Post by mike2mike » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:22 pm

Okay so there is a big asterisk here but
1 yr deal to Brees $33M. The Saints cannot match with their cap space.
3yr deal MINIMAL up front but mostly guarenteed up front to Teddy with lots of incentives and not a lot guaranteed after year 1 for about $17M a year.
Total per year for 2 QBs= $84M over 3 years.
Average per year? $28M. With cousins expecting to fall in that range or even $30M a year it would be less than Cousins with a LOT more flexibility.
We could trade or release Teddy if there is interest and health recovers and extend Brees a year or pay a little bit more (but not a lot because if we extend Brees, Teddy won't likely earn his incentives)
It's possibly a tough sell for Teddy but this needn't be a deal exclusive to Teddy.
The selling point is, you will start after Brees if you are healthy and ready to go and we will still pay you like a starter if you get your health right. We still do believe in you and you can call this place home and you have a real chance to win a Super Bowl.

The Vikings only end up paying Teddy like a starter if he is our best option otherwise someone else will trade for Teddy as a starter if he recovers and impresses.
Vikes probably want to test Teddy as a franchise QB and Teddy probably wants to be able to cash in on free agency in his prime at 28 years old after his next contract is up

Brees would only be a one year deal and because he'd be a 1 year deal, we don't actually get him over 3 years unless we trade Teddy after year one and extend Brees or pay a little to a lot more.
I assume we have to pay Brees a premium to get him for one year because it is less guaranteed and he may prefer a longer term deal with all things equal.

This buys the Vikings time and gives them flexibility to figure out a long term QB if it isn't Teddy, gives them firepower to win a super bowl this upcoming year and 2019 playoffs, and gives them more financial flexibility than they were prepared to have with Couisins...

And perhaps we can also get Keenum on a similar deal or Bradford on a cheaper one if you would prefer instead.
Just an idea.
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Re: Brees AND Teddy for less than Cousins?

Post by mike2mike » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:27 pm

Also in this scenario we probably wait to extend one or more of Barr, Hunter, Kendricks, Diggs or don't give them a lot up front and/or other deals would have to be light in year one and heavier in year 2 and 3 and more guarenteed perhaps as a result. But overall it doesn't change a lot if you are watching how we spend money total over the next 3 years since Cousins would be or would have been $30M fully guarenteed.

Vikings have contacted Tom Condon about Brees.
Saints have until Wednesday to sign him or Brees gets $18M instead of just $8M it sounds like.
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Re: Brees AND Teddy for less than Cousins?

Post by YikesVikes » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:39 pm

I don't think Brews would leave NO for a one year deal. He's looking to play 2 or 3 years more. We would have to wow him to get him to leave. I think our chances of la ding him are low. I would gladly sacrifice Murray's 5 million to give Brees to get him here but sometimes it's not about the money only for some players.
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Post by Pondering Her Percy » Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:13 pm

I really don’t want Teddy at all to be honest. Maybe as a backup but he’ll have suitors out of desperation so getting him as a backup is slim. I love the kid but time to move on
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Re: Brees AND Teddy for less than Cousins?

Post by PurpleMustReign » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:47 pm

Pondering Her Percy wrote:I really don’t want Teddy at all to be honest. Maybe as a backup but he’ll have suitors out of desperation so getting him as a backup is slim. I love the kid but time to move on
I winder if he'll get a chance to compete for a starting job somewhere? Doesn't Arizona need a QB? Any team would take a giant risk for him for sure.

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Re: Brees AND Teddy for less than Cousins?

Post by dead_poet » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:51 pm

PurpleMustReign wrote:
Pondering Her Percy wrote:I really don’t want Teddy at all to be honest. Maybe as a backup but he’ll have suitors out of desperation so getting him as a backup is slim. I love the kid but time to move on
I winder if he'll get a chance to compete for a starting job somewhere? Doesn't Arizona need a QB? Any team would take a giant risk for him for sure.

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Yes, Arizona needs a QB. They're also linked to Cousins.

I'm guessing Teddy will go somewhere to compete with a rookie or veteran of "backup" quality. A team can't sign him to be their unquestioned starter with his medicals.
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Re: Brees AND Teddy for less than Cousins?

Post by Pondering Her Percy » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:37 pm

dead_poet wrote:
PurpleMustReign wrote:
Pondering Her Percy wrote:I really don’t want Teddy at all to be honest. Maybe as a backup but he’ll have suitors out of desperation so getting him as a backup is slim. I love the kid but time to move on
I winder if he'll get a chance to compete for a starting job somewhere? Doesn't Arizona need a QB? Any team would take a giant risk for him for sure.

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Yes, Arizona needs a QB. They're also linked to Cousins.

I'm guessing Teddy will go somewhere to compete with a rookie or veteran of "backup" quality. A team can't sign him to be their unquestioned starter with his medicals.
Exactly. I continue to say that but for some reason, there’s still fans that think he’s going to be a stud. Way to big of a question mark for my liking
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Re: Brees AND Teddy for less than Cousins?

Post by mike2mike » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:12 am

YikesVikes wrote:I don't think Brews would leave NO for a one year deal. He's looking to play 2 or 3 years more. We would have to wow him to get him to leave. I think our chances of la ding him are low. I would gladly sacrifice Murray's 5 million to give Brees to get him here but sometimes it's not about the money only for some players.
A one yr deal could mean a 2 year deal with one of those being an option that wouldn't cost us anything and if we elect that option then we'd trade or release Teddy or else pay significantly more at QB at that point.
However, they're now saying Brees made significant steps towards re-signing with the Saints.
Meanwhile Keenum is expected to sign with Denver, Andrew Norwell to Jags and Murray is supposedly going to be asked to take a pay cut or be released.
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Re: Brees AND Teddy for less than Cousins?

Post by mike2mike » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:47 am

Oops, Brees just signed with the Saints. Close thread
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Post by dead_poet » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:15 am

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