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 Keep or cut: Latavius Murray 

McKinnon headed to FA, Murray will be paid $5.15 this year million if we keep him.
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 Keep or cut: Latavius Murray 
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McKinnon headed to FA, Murray will be paid $5.15 million if we keep him.


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Post Re: Keep or cut: Latavius Murray
I thought he played well, but his salary is too high for his 2017 production and projected role behind Cook in 2018


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Post Re: Keep or cut: Latavius Murray
He played well, got better as the season progressed. But I think we can get the same type of back cheaper, like Blount maybe.


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He's the 11th highest paid RB in the league and not even the best one on our team. He'll need to restructure and be ok with a backup role to stay. I don't see it.

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Post Re: Keep or cut: Latavius Murray
I say cut him and draft another RB in the mid-late rounds like Josh Adams out of ND, Jaylen Samuels out of NC state or Kyle Hicks from TCU


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Post Re: Keep or cut: Latavius Murray
I wouldn't have a problem with restructuring Murray. I wonder what kind of RB Flip prefers?
Also would Mack Brown or Bishop Sankey be something we could use?

If McKinnon leaves not sure we would want to also let Murray go too.


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Post Re: Keep or cut: Latavius Murray
I think every team does need a powerback for the red zone and he can certainly function as that but his salary is a little high. If he can be convinced to take a pay cut that would be great if not I'd prefer to let him go and draft a bulldozer.

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Post Re: Keep or cut: Latavius Murray
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I say cut him and draft another RB in the mid-late rounds like Josh Adams out of ND, Jaylen Samuels out of NC state or Kyle Hicks from TCU


Why not? Anything Jet can do, Cook can do better, including blocking and catching screens and passes out of the backfield. If Murray can prove himself a power back, the Vikes will re-sign if he lowers his salary. I bet Murray doesnt touch the ball 10 times a game. If something (god forbid) happens to Murray a lot of people will be happy we held onto him.


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He's the 11th highest paid RB in the league and not even the best one on our team. He'll need to restructure and be ok with a backup role to stay. I don't see it.


OTOH, it could be argued that he had a not so insignificant role in the success of the latter 3/4 of our season. Who will be that guy if Cook is hurt again in 2018? I do agree that at face value his contract is silly. (Really a result of the fact that FA happens before the draft.) Murray probably isn't worth $5MM a year, but then again, Cook is on a rookie deal which is relatively cheap. Not sure this one is as simple as it seems.

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Cliff wrote:
He's the 11th highest paid RB in the league and not even the best one on our team. He'll need to restructure and be ok with a backup role to stay. I don't see it.


OTOH, it could be argued that he had a not so insignificant role in the success of the latter 3/4 of our season. Who will be that guy if Cook is hurt again in 2018? I do agree that at face value his contract is silly. (Really a result of the fact that FA happens before the draft.) Murray probably isn't worth $5MM a year, but then again, Cook is on a rookie deal which is relatively cheap. Not sure this one is as simple as it seems.


I suppose that's true. Plus there is plenty of cap space to keep him on. There's really not much incentive to cut him.

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Post Re: Keep or cut: Latavius Murray
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Cliff wrote:
He's the 11th highest paid RB in the league and not even the best one on our team. He'll need to restructure and be ok with a backup role to stay. I don't see it.


OTOH, it could be argued that he had a not so insignificant role in the success of the latter 3/4 of our season. Who will be that guy if Cook is hurt again in 2018? I do agree that at face value his contract is silly. (Really a result of the fact that FA happens before the draft.) Murray probably isn't worth $5MM a year, but then again, Cook is on a rookie deal which is relatively cheap. Not sure this one is as simple as it seems.
I agree. 5 mil is not a lot at this point for the Vikings. I'd keep him another year. I think he'd be a great 3rd down back.

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Post Re: Keep or cut: Latavius Murray
Keep. I think he showed that he has some value, and while I do believe in the idea of having a "changeup" running back who is drastically different from your other running back(s), I also recognize that both Murray and Cook are very versatile which is arguably better. They have different styles to be sure, I think Murray's gonna use his height a lot more because the dude's 6'3 and around 215-220 lbs I believe (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about that), and he seems to be able to get some tough yards when we need it. Also, another thing to keep in mind is that we don't want to be stuck with absolutely nobody in case Cook returns and isn't as good as he used to be which has happened before with ACL injuries. I don't know if that's the case, I don't necessarily think so or anything, but I've heard that lateral movements become more of a problem when the ACL is injured.


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Post Re: Keep or cut: Latavius Murray
Slick Rick is right about lateral moves, the ACL is what allows you to plant a foot and make cuts at speed. I'd like to keep Murray around just in case - his experience could also be useful for someone like Cook.


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I think he'll stay, whether they approach him about restructuring is a different question.

What is it, 6 days until the league new year? Next week should be interesting. I expect we'll be a big player in the Cousins sweepstakes. (that might even be wrapped up already we just don't know it yet.)

The next question is if there anyone at DT 3T who could make a difference. If they could a proven commodity (maybe Miami wants to trade Su?) that would stack the deck for this roster, barring injury.

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Post Re: Keep or cut: Latavius Murray
What was Murray's avg yards after contact? I feel like he doesn't play up to his size and goes down pretty easy. He seems to be more of a patient, let your blocks develop, type of runner than a guy who can move piles. That's fine but I feel like the Vikings may be better off with the latter, a guy that can get tough third and short and endzone yards.


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What was Murray's avg yards after contact? I feel like he doesn't play up to his size and goes down pretty easy. He seems to be more of a patient, let your blocks develop, type of runner than a guy who can move piles. That's fine but I feel like the Vikings may be better off with the latter, a guy that can get tough third and short and endzone yards.


He is definitely one of the taller--if not tallest--current RB in the league, and as such his pad level probably higher and goes down easier. I am on the west cost, so I seen a lot of his games with the Raiders. I wasnt happy when the Vikings signed him, but I thought he played better than he has his whole career.


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Cut--not a good power back, not good in space, not decisive...Good speed and size but doesn't make good use of either one.


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Post Re: Keep or cut: Latavius Murray
Well I'm for keeping right now. There is no guarantee that Cook will be able to perform this year like he showed last year. Knee injuries are easily career killers. Peterson was an exception to the rule. One more cut like Cook made and the knee goes out again. Then we are stuck with nothing. No Murray isn't great IMO. But he's better than a lot of backs.

I would also consider drafting another good back this year.

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Post Re: Keep or cut: Latavius Murray
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Cliff wrote:
He's the 11th highest paid RB in the league and not even the best one on our team. He'll need to restructure and be ok with a backup role to stay. I don't see it.


OTOH, it could be argued that he had a not so insignificant role in the success of the latter 3/4 of our season. Who will be that guy if Cook is hurt again in 2018? I do agree that at face value his contract is silly. (Really a result of the fact that FA happens before the draft.) Murray probably isn't worth $5MM a year, but then again, Cook is on a rookie deal which is relatively cheap. Not sure this one is as simple as it seems.


Agree....would be caught with the proverbial pants down if Cook falls to another injury.


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Restructure. If that doesn't happen, cut. Pay Jet. I know he's looking for a starting role but I'd be shocked if he gets it. If he gets significantly more carries with another team (Patriots to replace Lewis?) more power to him. Most likely he'll share the load. Might as well do that here.

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Restructure. If that doesn't happen, cut. Pay Jet. I know he's looking for a starting role but I'd be shocked if he gets it. If he gets significantly more carries with another team (Patriots to replace Lewis?) more power to him. Most likely he'll share the load. Might as well do that here.
I can get on board with that. Murray is only making $5 mil . Would Jet make less than that?

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Restructure. If that doesn't happen, cut. Pay Jet. I know he's looking for a starting role but I'd be shocked if he gets it. If he gets significantly more carries with another team (Patriots to replace Lewis?) more power to him. Most likely he'll share the load. Might as well do that here.


I don't think jet can carry a full workload anyhow. His body hasn't held up with a ton of carries. He's better off as a committee back.


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dead_poet wrote:
Restructure. If that doesn't happen, cut. Pay Jet. I know he's looking for a starting role but I'd be shocked if he gets it. If he gets significantly more carries with another team (Patriots to replace Lewis?) more power to him. Most likely he'll share the load. Might as well do that here.
I can get on board with that. Murray is only making $5 mil . Would Jet make less than that?

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Around that. For context, James White,
Mark Ingram, Shane Vereen and Theo Riddick make about $4 million/year. Sproles at $4.5 million. Salary cap went up so he'll probably average between $4.5-$5.5 million/year

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Post Re: Keep or cut: Latavius Murray
Hes medium speed and he cant cut ,has no moves ,hes horrible .Cut him


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Hes medium speed and he cant cut ,has no moves ,hes horrible .Cut him


Seems logical :confused:

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Hes medium speed and he cant cut ,has no moves ,hes horrible .Cut him
I'm not his biggest fan, but that is an absurd analysis of Murray's attributes.

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fasteddy wrote:
Hes medium speed and he cant cut ,has no moves ,hes horrible .Cut him
I'm not his biggest fan, but that is an absurd analysis of Murray's attributes.

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Lol glad I’m not the only one that noticed

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Post Re: Keep or cut: Latavius Murray
Murray has been asked to restructure his contract...I guess we will see.


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Murray has been asked to restructure his contract...I guess we will see.


I keep seeing this too but not from reliable sources. They reports have also said, we are "planning on asking him to restructure".

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Post Re: Keep or cut: Latavius Murray
Sometime last season somebody Posted that Murray gets tackled easily. I noted that and noticed in games that he does. He can't break tackles and goes down by barely bumping him. He needs to do some serious leg work in the weight room


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