This actually isn't true. Rhodes had a poor 2016 but a fantastic 2015. I think that was his breakout season because he was dominant but unknown that season. 2016 or 17 was not the best we saw this young man play. He got a lot of fame for the OBD game but in 2015, the gambit of WRs he dismantled was way better.

No. I hope that he takes another leap next season. I'm not willing to risk our championship window on the fact that he does.

Well you clearly didn’t watch the Vikings this season. Because Waynes made a huge jump and played better than Rhodes by seasons end. There’s no debating that. Nor will they move on from him. It’s a move that makes zero sense. Period

He got destroyed in the playoffs as did that trash Terrance Newman .

He didn't but we will do this dance all day. Rhodes didn't play great. He lost his cool against Thomas but remind me, who did Ginn go 8 of 11 on in the playoff game?

The entire defense was trash, even Harry Hitman made terrible early cuts during Nick Foles’ bombs. No excuse there.

https://zonecoverage.com/2017/vikings/the-improvement-of-trae-waynes/

Try reading this and actually seeing the break down of everything instead of nitpicking stats. Nobody will go all day with you on this topic. Look at how the board has reacted since you posted this. Pretty much nobody agrees with you. Nor are the Vikings stupid enough to move on from Trae Waynes. It might be time for you to move on from this thread.

Now the Eagles are trading for Michael Bennett ,the Vikes should have been on that or another good end .

"As a result of this recent improvement in play, his cumulative yards per snap on the season is creeping closer to the league-average of 1.08. Currently, his season average is 1.5 yards, but since Week 8 he’s averaged 1.18 yards given up per snap in coverage."

Holy reading comprehension Batman. No one has to agree with me to make me correct. The two are not dependent on each other. I know I'm right despite you attempt to show that he is turning into an average CB.

Lol you aren’t right. Yeah he’s an average CB right now that’s an elite run defender. But according to you we should “move on from him”. Good business decision Rick? He’s not a shut down but he’s not bad by any means and is elite vs the run. He’s gotten better every year. But yeah let’s get rid of a guy right when he starts to get better. Trust me, when nobody agrees with you, you are not correct. As much as you think you are. Moving on from him wont happen. It’s not gonna happen. So you talking about it is pointless. Period. You’re arguing something that won’t happen and nobody agrees with you on. So what are you trying to prove? Throw the towel in and move on

Lol. Improving from being horrible and a walking completion in 2016 to being below average isn't something you clap on. His replacement needs to be addressed and groomed. As for discussing it, I thought this was a discussion board. There are a lot of things the Vikes should do and don't. Us fans can see it but they for what ever reasons cannot act on it ( financial, long term goals, relationship, team moral etc). As for being the lone voice of reason, it happens. I know the game, I've played the game and I can tell you that Wayne's will be serviceable at best. He simply isn't good and he should be replaced in the starting line up. Not saying he will be but he should be. I'll see you next season when you're eatting crow. I'll bookbookmark this to get a.... you were right but I doubt you're classy enough to admit being wrong.

I remember the Ponder and Khalil apologists. "He's improving, look at stat X, it shows growth"

Lol

Because being average but great on the run is a bad thing?

Holy Toledo fellas, we gotta get rid of everybody not named Rhodes at the Cornerback position if that's the case!!!

Showing how he played towards the end of the year wasnt "below average" first of all. That is just your opinion.

Us fans see a lot of things but wouldnt you think that scouts, coaches and front office know a little more than we do?? I would think so. If you were such a good judgement of talent then maybe you chose the wrong profession in life.

Listen, I know the game, I've played the game. In high school and in college. Just because you've played the game doesnt mean you're a better judgement of talent than everyone on here disagreeing with you. It means nothing. Most fans on this board have played football in their life I would imagine. So stop acting like you're above guys commenting on this thread because "you know and have played the game". It makes you sound arrogant.

And thats what you're shooting for? That much pride in your own opinion that you cant wait for me to tell you "you're right". Well you've got high hopes pal. Because everyone else on here can see the improvement that Waynes made except you. And that improvement is going to continue. And when it does, I can tell that just by the way you're acting, you'll be absent from this board when it all happens. He was the #3 most targeted CB in the NFL and still held his own. Weird. You're drawing dead at this point man. Nothing you say is going to prove something. We all know what he did and what he showed. And we all believe he made a huge jump and will continue that. So you continuing to argue this is just you beating a dead horse. You're getting nowhere. Understand that, and let his play do the talking.

Yeah supposedly! We had the #2 pass defense in the NFL but Waynes is terrible and is a huge liability Yup makes total sense. It must be Rhodes that covers both sides of the field at the same time because I dont know how else we would've gotten that ranking. Hmmmm....

Below average. I see you trying to make a case for him. Good teams continue to get better. For instance, possibly the best pass rushing team from last year, just traded for another pass rusher. Oh yeah, they won the chip and humbled us. Good teams identify needs and make moves to fix deficiencies.

Number 2 in spite of his inability to cover. Your link addressed how poor he played. We might be number one with an upgrade and...Might win a chip.

Yup, I'm sure that will win us a SB And the link showed how poor he played at first, and how much he improved as time went on if you actually read it. Either way, you wont win this argument....against anyone. You're drawing dead at this point

The link showed he improved for less than half a season. A top passing defensive team just traded for two cbs but... were good . Pass the koolaid

The Rams were middle of the road in pass defense first of all. And secondly they let their best CB go and had no #2 along with him to begin with. So in turn, using that to defend your argument makes no sense. Give it a rest.

They were 7th and 11th in qb rating and yards per attempt. So yes they were a top passing defense. We don't have a number 2 either they let Johnson walk but they addressed both Corner positions. Both.

Again, this is nowhere near the same situation. And if we didn’t have a number two, we’d probably be drafting a CB early or signing a big FA. My guess is, it’s not happening so I would say we have a pretty good #2 then!

That's a logical fallacy. Point A being true (not drafting a CB high) doesn't make point B true (we have a pretty good #2).
Let's make this easy. Would you consider Waynes a strength of this team? If not, then a consideration to improve at his spot, should not be dismissed. So is he a strength to you?

Lol god you just won’t quit. His run support? Massive strength. Coverage wise, he’s average and showing improvement. Either way, no matter what I think or you think, it’s not happening. So why are we even discussing it? Enough already

Waynes's game is almost identical to Winfield's. Awesome at run defense, mediocre in coverage, and doesn't miss many tackles. He isn't shutdown, but he's damn good and a great compliment to Rhodes.

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Thank you I’m glad someone finally chimed in here. Agreed completely

I the OPs defense, Waynes allows completions, but rarely allows YAC. He's always around the ball, and I think he's getting better adult defending passes. I am anxious to see how he does this year.

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He’s definitely getting better defending passes. It showed at the end of last season. But to say we should cut him is absurd IMO

When you start describing a CBs strengths with "he's good in run support"
Not saying run support isn't important but geez. Give me a technical break down of his skills set in coverage or something.
I would wager that he isn't average in coverage. Our disagreement is that I believe that he won't hit his potential (if he ever). Our pass rush hides a lot of his inconsistencies and result in over and underthrows by opposing QBs. When they pass rush doesn't get there, he's burnt toast more often than not.