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Wtf? Why?Maelstrom88 wrote:Vikings set to interview Bevell
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I wasn't around during his first run with the Vikings because the Rams were still in STL. Why do people dislike him?PurpleMustReign wrote:Wtf? Why?Maelstrom88 wrote:Vikings set to interview Bevell
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Noooooo *inhales* ooooooo!!!Maelstrom88 wrote:Vikings set to interview Bevell
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Agreed - Good post!S197 wrote:Noooooo *inhales* ooooooo!!!Maelstrom88 wrote:Vikings set to interview Bevell
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For those unfamiliar, he had one good year with Favre followed by an awful year. Maybe he was hamstrung by Childress but he seems to be a product of a good situation rather than going into a poor situation and making it better. Same thing in Seattle. The longer he had his hands on that team the worse it got. I'd prefer a coordinator that gets better as he evolves with a team, not worse.
I agree 100%. Guys bring up the OL issues but look at the OL. They were a pile of no-names. That's not Bevells fault. Thats on Carroll and Schneider. I honestly wouldnt mind BevellMaelstrom88 wrote:https://youtu.be/9G4ZgPY1MdI
For what it's worth Bevell looks like he had a much better game plan against the Eagles than Shurmur. I'd be ok with the hire. I don't think Seattle gave him a lot to work with on offense especially recently.
I disagree, Bevell was unable to make the guys he was given work. He also is coming from an environment where the HC went out and blamed the state of the college game for the situation. That is an environment where it seems unlikely that he was encouraged, let alone able to solve the issue. By contrast the Vikings had a similar issue in 2016 and were able to go out and find guys (Elflein, Remmers, Reiff) and develop guys (Hill, Easton, Sirles) to turn around the unit in a single season.Pondering Her Percy wrote:I agree 100%. Guys bring up the OL issues but look at the OL. They were a pile of no-names. That's not Bevells fault. Thats on Carroll and Schneider. I honestly wouldnt mind BevellMaelstrom88 wrote:https://youtu.be/9G4ZgPY1MdI
For what it's worth Bevell looks like he had a much better game plan against the Eagles than Shurmur. I'd be ok with the hire. I don't think Seattle gave him a lot to work with on offense especially recently.
He was perceived to be "questionable" with his play calling. Here is just one of the threads that mention him. I'm sure there are lots of others.Maelstrom88 wrote:I wasn't around during his first run with the Vikings because the Rams were still in STL. Why do people dislike him?PurpleMustReign wrote:Wtf? Why?Maelstrom88 wrote:Vikings set to interview Bevell
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I see what you're saying. It's tough though because I feel Bevell wasnt given much to work with other than Wilson, Baldwin and Graham. Their offensive lineman were a bunch of bums, they had no RBs worth a nickel and outside of Baldwin their WRs were below average. I mean they had the 15th ranked total offense which isnt horrible given what he had to work with. We saw first hand what it was like not having an OL and RB last season. And our offense was much worse than 15th. We were 28th. And that was with a halfway decent QB, good TE and good WRs. Fans questioned Shurmur last year because of that. And in one year, with good RBs and a much improved OL, he made a giant jump with this offensemansquatch wrote: I disagree, Bevell was unable to make the guys he was given work. He also is coming from an environment where the HC went out and blamed the state of the college game for the situation. That is an environment where it seems unlikely that he was encouraged, let alone able to solve the issue. By contrast the Vikings had a similar issue in 2016 and were able to go out and find guys (Elflein, Remmers, Reiff) and develop guys (Hill, Easton, Sirles) to turn around the unit in a single season.
I'm sure the Seahawks issues were not ALL on Bevell, in fact I felt he was fired because Carrol wasn't about to fire himself. But that doesn't mean Bevell is absolved of fault either. That unit in SEA was in steady decline to the point of being a dumpster fire last season. Whatever his level of input, the results across the board were POOR. Same at RB, Same at WR. The only place that offense has gotten better is QB. Given all the failure it is fair to ask, is that the player or the coach?
IMO, there are guys with a lot less baggage available. ALSO: We should be PICKY! Whomever gets this job is getting a built to win right now team with a solid roster on offense and an elite defense to back it up. You've got a bonafide stud RB in Cook, a top 5 WR Tandem, and a strong TE. You've got some issues to manage at QB and some depth concerns that's really about it. The guy they hire should be adding octane to the gas tank.
I never thought I would hear anyone wanting Bevell back and making excuses for him. The facts are he wasnt very good his first time around, and the reason we were good this year, had a lot to do with Shurmur.Pondering Her Percy wrote:I see what you're saying. It's tough though because I feel Bevell wasnt given much to work with other than Wilson, Baldwin and Graham. Their offensive lineman were a bunch of bums, they had no RBs worth a nickel and outside of Baldwin their WRs were below average. I mean they had the 15th ranked total offense which isnt horrible given what he had to work with. We saw first hand what it was like not having an OL and RB last season. And our offense was much worse than 15th. We were 28th. And that was with a halfway decent QB, good TE and good WRs. Fans questioned Shurmur last year because of that. And in one year, with good RBs and a much improved OL, he made a giant jump with this offensemansquatch wrote: I disagree, Bevell was unable to make the guys he was given work. He also is coming from an environment where the HC went out and blamed the state of the college game for the situation. That is an environment where it seems unlikely that he was encouraged, let alone able to solve the issue. By contrast the Vikings had a similar issue in 2016 and were able to go out and find guys (Elflein, Remmers, Reiff) and develop guys (Hill, Easton, Sirles) to turn around the unit in a single season.
I'm sure the Seahawks issues were not ALL on Bevell, in fact I felt he was fired because Carrol wasn't about to fire himself. But that doesn't mean Bevell is absolved of fault either. That unit in SEA was in steady decline to the point of being a dumpster fire last season. Whatever his level of input, the results across the board were POOR. Same at RB, Same at WR. The only place that offense has gotten better is QB. Given all the failure it is fair to ask, is that the player or the coach?
IMO, there are guys with a lot less baggage available. ALSO: We should be PICKY! Whomever gets this job is getting a built to win right now team with a solid roster on offense and an elite defense to back it up. You've got a bonafide stud RB in Cook, a top 5 WR Tandem, and a strong TE. You've got some issues to manage at QB and some depth concerns that's really about it. The guy they hire should be adding octane to the gas tank.