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Post Re: 30 million a year for Cousins?
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In all honesty, I don't see us throwing this type of money at him mainly because Zimmer has a high school crush on Teddy Bridgewater.


It's clear he likes Teddy but I don't know if that necessarily clouds his judgment. Lets not forget they activated Bradford and made him 2nd string for the playoffs. You don't do that if you're head over heels on TB.


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When I give an opinion, I ALWAYS back it up with statistics, quotes, comments from coaches ... something. That doesn't make me right. It simply means I've got an informed opinion. If I don't have any facts to back it, I make that disclaimer by saying something like, "That's just my opinion. Nothing to back it up." Lots of others on this board do the same thing. They at least make an attempt to back up their opinions.


Neither you nor Percy seem capable of reading very carefully. I have provided ample evidence, but if it doesn't fit your prefered non sequitur version of 'evidence', which is actually worthless, I guess it doesn't count. Just keep blathering on about stats and ignore any actual evidence.

*I blame ESPN and 24 hour sports news for reducing discourse about sports to this pathetically low level of analysis.


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J. Kapp 11 wrote:
When I give an opinion, I ALWAYS back it up with statistics, quotes, comments from coaches ... something. That doesn't make me right. It simply means I've got an informed opinion. If I don't have any facts to back it, I make that disclaimer by saying something like, "That's just my opinion. Nothing to back it up." Lots of others on this board do the same thing. They at least make an attempt to back up their opinions.


Neither you nor Percy seem capable of reading very carefully. I have provided ample evidence, but if it doesn't fit your prefered non sequitur version of 'evidence', which is actually worthless, I guess it doesn't count. Just keep blathering on about stats and ignore any actual evidence.

*I blame ESPN and 24 hour sports news for reducing discourse about sports to this pathetically low level of analysis.

Where?

Can you link me to your comment where you did this? It's entirely possible I missed it.

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<ModHat>Nobody has crossed any lines yet but I can feel it getting heated. Just be careful.</modhat>

Sorry man. I'm really trying to be tactful here and explain my position. Hope I'm not nudging too closely. This is such a great board, precisely because we do a good job of sticking to football, arguing with facts, and refraining from insult. I hate it when we resort to insults. That's beneath this board.

That being said, I realize my tone there might not have been the best. Hope you understand my intent.

No problem, it wasn't just you by any means and nobody got out of line it just seemed it might be heading that way.

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Probably relevant.

Vikings new offensive coordinator DeFilippo describes his ideal quarterback

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Asked what the most important elements of a good quarterback are, DiFilippo named three aspects of a QB’s game that need to stand out in order to succeed.

— “Character is number one for me. If you have character at that position, you have a chance to succeed. If you don’t have it, you have zero chance to succeed. Number one we are going to look for a person that’s going to represent our football team the way and conduct himself the way we want both on and off the football field. That’s very, very important.

— “Number two, the three most important attributes of playing the quarterback position are decision making, timing and accuracy. So we’re going to heavily research into those three factors with whoever is the quarterback next year in Minnesota and really dig into those three areas.”

— “And finally, a guy that shows some form of leadership. You don’t need to be a rah-rah kind of guy all the time, but you need to show some form of leadership so other guys will follow you, look up to you and when times get tough will play for you. All those things I just mentioned are important components of the quarterback position.”


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“I think that’s part of it, there’s no doubt. And athleticism is a unique trait for a quarterback. There’s different types of athleticism for a quarterback. There’s guys like the Michael Vick types and those things and then there’s guys who have great athleticism moving their feet in the pocket keeping plays alive to extend plays. I’m not a big believer in quarterbacks who are a stick in the mud back there. They’re in cement back there at seven-and-a-half yards deep. Our quarterbacks are going to need to show some form of athleticism.”


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“DeFilippo turned to Foles to help determine what offensive strategies would help them continue to succeed on offense without their top QB.

I sat him down and made him list me with our coaching staff, ‘What are your best concepts? What do you see yourself do well?'” DeFilippo said. “Because I’m not myself, Frank Reich, Doug Pederson, we’re not the ones out there throwing it. He is. So we sat down and spent time with Nick formulating game plans on what he felt comfortable doing. For me, that’s coaching. Why would you ask a player to do something that he’s not comfortable with? That’s good coaching to me. Nick was open and honest about things he was comfortable with.”

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Probably relevant.

Vikings new offensive coordinator DeFilippo describes his ideal quarterback

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Asked what the most important elements of a good quarterback are, DiFilippo named three aspects of a QB’s game that need to stand out in order to succeed.

— “Character is number one for me. If you have character at that position, you have a chance to succeed. If you don’t have it, you have zero chance to succeed. Number one we are going to look for a person that’s going to represent our football team the way and conduct himself the way we want both on and off the football field. That’s very, very important.

— “Number two, the three most important attributes of playing the quarterback position are decision making, timing and accuracy. So we’re going to heavily research into those three factors with whoever is the quarterback next year in Minnesota and really dig into those three areas.”

— “And finally, a guy that shows some form of leadership. You don’t need to be a rah-rah kind of guy all the time, but you need to show some form of leadership so other guys will follow you, look up to you and when times get tough will play for you. All those things I just mentioned are important components of the quarterback position.”


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“I think that’s part of it, there’s no doubt. And athleticism is a unique trait for a quarterback. There’s different types of athleticism for a quarterback. There’s guys like the Michael Vick types and those things and then there’s guys who have great athleticism moving their feet in the pocket keeping plays alive to extend plays. I’m not a big believer in quarterbacks who are a stick in the mud back there. They’re in cement back there at seven-and-a-half yards deep. Our quarterbacks are going to need to show some form of athleticism.”


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“DeFilippo turned to Foles to help determine what offensive strategies would help them continue to succeed on offense without their top QB.

I sat him down and made him list me with our coaching staff, ‘What are your best concepts? What do you see yourself do well?'” DeFilippo said. “Because I’m not myself, Frank Reich, Doug Pederson, we’re not the ones out there throwing it. He is. So we sat down and spent time with Nick formulating game plans on what he felt comfortable doing. For me, that’s coaching. Why would you ask a player to do something that he’s not comfortable with? That’s good coaching to me. Nick was open and honest about things he was comfortable with.”

Good read. I still think they try to bring back both Case and Teddy. I know, call me crazy.

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I think they resign Teddy for cheap. Draft a QB, maybe at 30. And keep Sloter.

Or they might get Bradford back cheap.

Keenum is gone IMO. He is going to demand way too much money, I would rather pay cousins that money than Keenum.


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I think they resign Teddy for cheap. Draft a QB, maybe at 30. And keep Sloter.

Or they might get Bradford back cheap.

Keenum is gone IMO. He is going to demand way too much money, I would rather pay cousins that money than Keenum.


I think Teddy, a rookie and Sloter is a bad idea. All 3 are complete unknowns. Cousins is not. Case could be with Shurmur gone but I’d take him any day over the 3 above. If Bradford could stay healthy I wouldn’t mind him but that’s a big IF

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I think the odds we bring in Cousins just went up. Even though I'm a Keenum fan and still think he's the most likely option, and I would be surprised to see Cousins be signed, Keenum can probably command a deal similar to what Jimmy G just got, and that's just crazy to me. I still think we'll probably at least bring him back on the franchise tag, but if we can get Cousins for $28M or something like that, I think the Vikes might go through with it.


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The real question is how does Philly keep Foles? Currently they are somewhere between $9-11 million over the cap. By 4PM on March 14th they have to be under the cap. How they do that is going to be interesting.

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Philly has no intention of keeping Foles, and why would they? He will go to the highest bidder and my question is why aren't we doing the bidding at this point? All I know is this, I will be somewhat happy with whoever it is aside from Teddy Bridgewater. He is a total bum and will never be an elite QB and yet something tells me we will go with him. He started 16 games and threw for 15 passing TD's. How on this earth can you get any worse passing statistics? And not only that, he is two full years of being removed from a starter this guy is not the guy we need. How obvious can it be?


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I finally got around to watching Sloter. Not just highlights but all his snaps.

He has good height and a pretty good arm but he needs a lot of work. His pocket presence is pretty poor, he took a lot of sacks including a really bad safety. Needs to learn to get rid of the ball for sure. Is a bit of a statue in the pocket. Footwork needs some work, you can see he throws off his back foot quite a bit. His release also needs work, it's a nice high release but it's slow.

These are areas Flip can probably help with. Hopefully. Best comparison I can come up with is a less polished Ryan Mallet. He looks very much like a long shot and I think some fans are relying on him to be too much for this team. This offseason will be interesting but he looks like a 3rd stringer to me. We should be looking at options behind who will be starter next year.


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Philly has no intention of keeping Foles, and why would they? He will go to the highest bidder and my question is why aren't we doing the bidding at this point? All I know is this, I will be somewhat happy with whoever it is aside from Teddy Bridgewater. He is a total bum and will never be an elite QB and yet something tells me we will go with him. He started 16 games and threw for 15 passing TD's. How on this earth can you get any worse passing statistics? And not only that, he is two full years of being removed from a starter this guy is not the guy we need. How obvious can it be?



Really? A total bum? Did this guy come over to your house a urinate in your corn flakes last week or something?
The kid is like 24 years old and has done everything in his power to help this team win. He is a complete team player and has been nothing but class since being drafted by the Vikings.

You know it’s comments like these that make people stick up for him.
I’d say his statistics are pretty good considering the offensive line he had to deal with and an aging prima donna running back that fumbled again in the 4th quarter in the Seattle game.

A total bum huh?

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Philly has no intention of keeping Foles, and why would they? He will go to the highest bidder and my question is why aren't we doing the bidding at this point? All I know is this, I will be somewhat happy with whoever it is aside from Teddy Bridgewater. He is a total bum and will never be an elite QB and yet something tells me we will go with him. He started 16 games and threw for 15 passing TD's. How on this earth can you get any worse passing statistics? And not only that, he is two full years of being removed from a starter this guy is not the guy we need. How obvious can it be?



Really? A total bum? Did this guy come over to your house a urinate in your corn flakes last week or something?
The kid is like 24 years old and has done everything in his power to help this team win. He is a complete team player and has been nothing but class since being drafted by the Vikings.

You know it’s comments like these that make people stick up for him.
I’d say his statistics are pretty good considering the offensive line he had to deal with and an aging prima donna running back that fumbled again in the 4th quarter in the Seattle game.

A total bum huh?

Take a vacation and gain some new perspective on life, you deserve it.


This. It always seems to be a hot take with you and I don't understand the blatant hatred for Teddy Bridgewater. Look at who he had to deal with in 2015: a terrible offensive line including TJ Clemmings (a fate worse than death) / Mike Harris who wasn't actually that good / a turnstile in Matt Kalil / a still aging Berger / and Brandon Fusco (who always got hurt), Adrian Peterson who ate up plays and spat out fumbles, Diggs in a rookie year, Mike Wallace who was utterly innefective, Cordarelle "I like to not play to my potential" Patterson, and of all things, Rhett "My dad hates Zimmer" Ellison.

That's a great team there guys. /s

Not to mention he made the #### Pro Bowl that year too as well as Rookie of the Year in 2014. Just what is your #### problem with the guy?


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dkoby wrote:
mosscarter wrote:
Philly has no intention of keeping Foles, and why would they? He will go to the highest bidder and my question is why aren't we doing the bidding at this point? All I know is this, I will be somewhat happy with whoever it is aside from Teddy Bridgewater. He is a total bum and will never be an elite QB and yet something tells me we will go with him. He started 16 games and threw for 15 passing TD's. How on this earth can you get any worse passing statistics? And not only that, he is two full years of being removed from a starter this guy is not the guy we need. How obvious can it be?



Really? A total bum? Did this guy come over to your house a urinate in your corn flakes last week or something?
The kid is like 24 years old and has done everything in his power to help this team win. He is a complete team player and has been nothing but class since being drafted by the Vikings.

You know it’s comments like these that make people stick up for him.
I’d say his statistics are pretty good considering the offensive line he had to deal with and an aging prima donna running back that fumbled again in the 4th quarter in the Seattle game.

A total bum huh?

Take a vacation and gain some new perspective on life, you deserve it.




This. It always seems to be a hot take with you and I don't understand the blatant hatred for Teddy Bridgewater. Look at who he had to deal with in 2015: a terrible offensive line including TJ Clemmings (a fate worse than death) / Mike Harris who wasn't actually that good / a turnstile in Matt Kalil / a still aging Berger / and Brandon Fusco (who always got hurt), Adrian Peterson who ate up plays and spat out fumbles, Diggs in a rookie year, Mike Wallace who was utterly innefective, Cordarelle "I like to not play to my potential" Patterson, and of all things, Rhett "My dad hates Zimmer" Ellison.

That's a great team there guys. /s

Not to mention he made the #### Pro Bowl that year too as well as Rookie of the Year in 2014. Just what is your #### problem with the guy?



I think him dealing with Kalil is more impressive than him making the pro bowl.

I would love to see Teddy and Dalvin work Flip's RPO. I like Teddy because he can probably still run better than most QBs, but definitely looks to throw first. I think That RPO game would fit perfectly between those two


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I think the fact that Bradford got the nod ahead of Teddy to back up Case in the playoffs revealed Zimmer's evaluation of his talents. Even though he previously seemed a bit biased in Teddy's favor, that is pretty telling IMO. I fear that his knee is just not all the way back yet.

I agree, though, that using the word 'bum' for a guy like Teddy is super out of line. The guy has been the perfect team-first, high character soldier that anyone would want at the position.


My best guess is that it will be Cousins or Case. Foles seems less likely, given he'd take a draft pick and we're running low on them. Interesting observations on Sloter, S197.


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I think the fact that Bradford got the nod ahead of Teddy to back up Case in the playoffs revealed Zimmer's evaluation of his talents. Even though he previously seemed a bit biased in Teddy's favor, that is pretty telling IMO. I fear that his knee is just not all the way back yet.


It probably isn't but that might speak more to Zimmer's opinion of Bridgewater's readiness at the time. Bradford had played in games much more recently than Bridgewater so that may have been a determining factor in activating him for the postseason over Bridgewater.


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I think the fact that Bradford got the nod ahead of Teddy to back up Case in the playoffs revealed Zimmer's evaluation of his talents. Even though he previously seemed a bit biased in Teddy's favor, that is pretty telling IMO. I fear that his knee is just not all the way back yet.


It probably isn't but that might speak more to Zimmer's opinion of Bridgewater's readiness at the time. Bradford had played in games much more recently than Bridgewater so that may have been a determining factor in activating him for the postseason over Bridgewater.



Do you mean "meaningful snaps"? Because I'm pretty sure that the reverse is true: Teddy had played more recently than Sam.

Either way, I'd be uneasy tying our yoke to either of them due to the questionable health of their knees. On the other hand, IIRC Case overcame a torn ACL too, it's just not as recent as Teddy's and he seems to have made a more complete recovery than Sam.


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Do you mean "meaningful snaps"? Because I'm pretty sure that the reverse is true: Teddy had played more recently than Sam.


Yes, I meant meaningful playing time. I didn't think Bridgewater's appearance was meaningful in football terms, although on a personal level, it was obviously huge for him.

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Either way, I'd be uneasy tying our yoke to either of them due to the questionable health of their knees. On the other hand, IIRC Case overcame a torn ACL too, it's just not as recent as Teddy's and he seems to have made a more complete recovery than Sam.


None of them are ideal options going forward. Based on the criteria the new OC put forward, I think Case makes the most sense of the 3. New OC John DeFilippo emphasized character as the most important trait in a QB, followed by decision-making, timing and accuracy. Keenum, Bridgewater and Bradford all strike me as QBs with strong character. I think Bradford has the best timing and accuracy of that trio but DeFilippo seems to want a mobile QB and that's not Bradford.

I'm hoping the Vikes move on from Bridgewater. I don't see that he offers anything Keenum doesn't and the latter showed a more aggressive nature, which I think paid off for the offense. Bradford's a high risk choice too because of his injury history so if they keep him, they need a strong backup. He clearly has the most arm talent of the 3.

I'm not sold on the idea of breaking the bank for Cousins or making what would likely be an expensive trade to acquire Foles and sign him to a new deal.

The Vikes are in an odd spot.


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Do you mean "meaningful snaps"? Because I'm pretty sure that the reverse is true: Teddy had played more recently than Sam.


Yes, I meant meaningful playing time. I didn't think Bridgewater's appearance was meaningful in football terms, although on a personal level, it was obviously huge for him.

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Either way, I'd be uneasy tying our yoke to either of them due to the questionable health of their knees. On the other hand, IIRC Case overcame a torn ACL too, it's just not as recent as Teddy's and he seems to have made a more complete recovery than Sam.


None of them are ideal options going forward. Based on the criteria the new OC put forward, I think Case makes the most sense of the 3. New OC John DeFilippo emphasized character as the most important trait in a QB, followed by decision-making, timing and accuracy. Keenum, Bridgewater and Bradford all strike me as QBs with strong character. I think Bradford has the best timing and accuracy of that trio but DeFilippo seems to want a mobile QB and that's not Bradford.

I'm hoping the Vikes move on from Bridgewater. I don't see that he offers anything Keenum doesn't and the latter showed a more aggressive nature, which I think paid off for the offense. Bradford's a high risk choice too because of his injury history so if they keep him, they need a strong backup. He clearly has the most arm talent of the 3.

I'm not sold on the idea of breaking the bank for Cousins or making what would likely be an expensive trade to acquire Foles and sign him to a new deal.

The Vikes are in an odd spot.
I agree. I think, if nothing else, Case proved he can win games and make plays. I said before wheat I like anout him is he let's his receivers make plays. He gives them a chance. He throws it 20 yards down fiest on 3rd and 19. I like his aggressive style.

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Do you mean "meaningful snaps"? Because I'm pretty sure that the reverse is true: Teddy had played more recently than Sam.


Yes, I meant meaningful playing time. I didn't think Bridgewater's appearance was meaningful in football terms, although on a personal level, it was obviously huge for him.

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Either way, I'd be uneasy tying our yoke to either of them due to the questionable health of their knees. On the other hand, IIRC Case overcame a torn ACL too, it's just not as recent as Teddy's and he seems to have made a more complete recovery than Sam.


None of them are ideal options going forward. Based on the criteria the new OC put forward, I think Case makes the most sense of the 3. New OC John DeFilippo emphasized character as the most important trait in a QB, followed by decision-making, timing and accuracy. Keenum, Bridgewater and Bradford all strike me as QBs with strong character. I think Bradford has the best timing and accuracy of that trio but DeFilippo seems to want a mobile QB and that's not Bradford.

I'm hoping the Vikes move on from Bridgewater. I don't see that he offers anything Keenum doesn't and the latter showed a more aggressive nature, which I think paid off for the offense. Bradford's a high risk choice too because of his injury history so if they keep him, they need a strong backup. He clearly has the most arm talent of the 3.

I'm not sold on the idea of breaking the bank for Cousins or making what would likely be an expensive trade to acquire Foles and sign him to a new deal.

The Vikes are in an odd spot.
I agree. I think, if nothing else, Case proved he can win games and make plays. I said before wheat I like anout him is he let's his receivers make plays. He gives them a chance. He throws it 20 yards down fiest on 3rd and 19. I like his aggressive style.

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His 'aggressive style' was the turning point in the Championship game (IMO of course). That first INT he threw was late, into triple coverage, and off target. When I read what Cliff posted, I immediately thought Case did not fit. 3 most important attributes: Decision making, timing and accuracy. Case is a gunslinger. He will always have that mentality. Some people like that. I'm pretty sure Zimmer doesn't. That's why he'd rather go with someone else I believe. What the Vikings need is an accurate passer, doesn't take unnecessary risks, and can make plays when needed.

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His 'aggressive style' was the turning point in the Championship game (IMO of course). That first INT he threw was late, into triple coverage, and off target. When I read what Cliff posted, I immediately thought Case did not fit. 3 most important attributes: Decision making, timing and accuracy. Case is a gunslinger. He will always have that mentality. Some people like that. I'm pretty sure Zimmer doesn't. That's why he'd rather go with someone else I believe. What the Vikings need is an accurate passer, doesn't take unnecessary risks, and can make plays when needed.
He was hit as he threw the ball. How is that possibly his fault?

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The real question is how does Philly keep Foles? Currently they are somewhere between $9-11 million over the cap. By 4PM on March 14th they have to be under the cap. How they do that is going to be interesting.


We had a shot at getting Foles for a backup a few years ago. But for some reason we snoozed and Kanas City picked him up for their backup.


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The real question is how does Philly keep Foles? Currently they are somewhere between $9-11 million over the cap. By 4PM on March 14th they have to be under the cap. How they do that is going to be interesting.


We had a shot at getting Foles for a backup a few years ago. But for some reason we snoozed and Kanas City picked him up for their backup.

We wouldn't have had a chance at Foles. He was going to retire, but his buddy Andy Reid called him and convinced him to be KC's backup.

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None of them are ideal options going forward. Based on the criteria the new OC put forward, I think Case makes the most sense of the 3. New OC John DeFilippo emphasized character as the most important trait in a QB, followed by decision-making, timing and accuracy. Keenum, Bridgewater and Bradford all strike me as QBs with strong character. I think Bradford has the best timing and accuracy of that trio but DeFilippo seems to want a mobile QB and that's not Bradford.

I'm hoping the Vikes move on from Bridgewater. I don't see that he offers anything Keenum doesn't and the latter showed a more aggressive nature, which I think paid off for the offense. Bradford's a high risk choice too because of his injury history so if they keep him, they need a strong backup. He clearly has the most arm talent of the 3.

I'm not sold on the idea of breaking the bank for Cousins or making what would likely be an expensive trade to acquire Foles and sign him to a new deal.

The Vikes are in an odd spot.
I agree. I think, if nothing else, Case proved he can win games and make plays. I said before wheat I like anout him is he let's his receivers make plays. He gives them a chance. He throws it 20 yards down fiest on 3rd and 19. I like his aggressive style.

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His 'aggressive style' was the turning point in the Championship game (IMO of course). That first INT he threw was late, into triple coverage, and off target. When I read what Cliff posted, I immediately thought Case did not fit. 3 most important attributes: Decision making, timing and accuracy. Case is a gunslinger. He will always have that mentality. Some people like that. I'm pretty sure Zimmer doesn't. That's why he'd rather go with someone else I believe. What the Vikings need is an accurate passer, doesn't take unnecessary risks, and can make plays when needed.
He was hit as he threw the ball. How is that possibly his fault?

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I retract my statement. I watched it again. Yeah, can't fault Keenum for that. Thielen looked open too. Still, I think he takes too many risks for Zimmer's liking.

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They will go with the worst option of all Teddy because they can get him on the cheap. And, since this guy helped Wentz and Carr I believe that will be his role. What were his passing statistics again when he started a full season, 15 passing TD's in 16 games? And don't forget 4 of them came in one game by itself. He is a horrible, weak armed QB with durability issues I'd rather give Case 35 million for one year than put Bridgewater at the helm. It will be a disaster if we do.


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They will go with the worst option of all Teddy because they can get him on the cheap. And, since this guy helped Wentz and Carr I believe that will be his role. What were his passing statistics again when he started a full season, 15 passing TD's in 16 games? And don't forget 4 of them came in one game by itself. He is a horrible, weak armed QB with durability issues I'd rather give Case 35 million for one year than put Bridgewater at the helm. It will be a disaster if we do.


Dam dude, I have never seen so much hate for 1 player. I coundnt stand Ponder and hated McNabb. I posted a lot of negative stuff about McNabb and his bounce passes (and the fact Childress had nothing to do with his success) here, and got banned for it. But why do you have so much hate for Teddy? :deadhorse: He hasnt had any time yet to prove himself. Even the greats took more then a couple years to show. And all this hate was before Teddy screwed up his knee/leg. I dont think Teddy isnt the answer either, when Case and Cousins might be options, but I love the guy and think he can be a good QB. But the Vikings need a GOOD QB for a change. And they need to have someone other then Slotter as the 3rd string (and hope to god he isnt the backup, cause he has showed nothing since hes been here other then the Vikings have a hard time with the QB spot).


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I don’t know if TB will be on the roster on day one next year, but I do know that right before he was hurt, he looked dynamite. That 3rd preseason game he played in was a very good performance and we all thought our long term QB problems had been solved.
Now, I don’t see him in practice, so I myself, can not evaluate him. But the powers that make those decisions, have been.
I think if they really are convinced that he is ready to go, they should sign him and sign Case or Cousins and have an open competition.
I admit, I love TB and would love this great kid to lead us back to a super bowl, but I want us to win formost so I just want every opportunity to do that. I think having TB going forward will give us a better chance to understand if he really is the better choice. I’m dying to know if TB is better than Cousins. I think it would be close, and if it is, at least we gave TB a shot and he could easily be traded if Cousins wins the competition.

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I'm more excited about bringing back Bradford or Keenum or even signing Cousins, but just went back and watched Teddy's 2016 preseason. He definitely looked like he was progressing more into a franchise QB. His deep ball was improved and he seemed more aggressive/trusted his receivers more. That could have been the fact that it was preseason, but if he picked up where he left off from the 2016 preseason along with him working on his football IQ and arm strength during his recovery, he could still be the future.




I don't think we can even look at 2014 and 2015 stats for Teddy to predict future Teddy because he looked like he was turning into a new QB in 2016, basically the entire offense is different now (besides Diggs who already had great chemistry with Teddy), and we have a brand new OC who has been great with young QBs.


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I'm more excited about bringing back Bradford or Keenum or even signing Cousins, but just went back and watched Teddy's 2016 preseason. He definitely looked like he was progressing more into a franchise QB. His deep ball was improved and he seemed more aggressive/trusted his receivers more. That could have been the fact that it was preseason, but if he picked up where he left off from the 2016 preseason along with him working on his football IQ and arm strength during his recovery, he could still be the future.




I don't think we can even look at 2014 and 2015 stats for Teddy to predict future Teddy because he looked like he was turning into a new QB in 2016, basically the entire offense is different now (besides Diggs who already had great chemistry with Teddy), and we have a brand new OC who has been great with young QBs.
But you're only looking at preseason. TJack had great preseason too. I just don't get it.

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