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Author:  dead_poet [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:11 pm ]
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Rodgers on IR.

Adams may not play (concussion).

Author:  S197 [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:18 pm ]
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Bummer, I was looking forward to Erin getting sacked on that frozen field.

Can't look past this game though, they played the Steelers very tough with Hundley at the helm.

Author:  NCViking [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:43 pm ]
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Hahaha, I'm from Charlotte and all the Panthers fans are livid that he came back to play against them, but now that they are out, the Packers are throwing in the towel. It wrecks the Panthers' hopes at the #2 seed since they need us to lose one more game.

Author:  720pete [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:51 pm ]
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My only concern is the weather. Case has not played in extreme cold has he? How will that affect this team?

Author:  J. Kapp 11 [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:26 pm ]
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NCViking wrote:
Hahaha, I'm from Charlotte and all the Panthers fans are livid that he came back to play against them, but now that they are out, the Packers are throwing in the towel. It wrecks the Panthers' hopes at the #2 seed since they need us to lose one more game.

Panthers fans had better worry about the Bucs and Falcons instead of moaning about the Vikings.

And besides, we'd have beaten Erin Rodgers like a rented mule anyway.

Author:  J. Kapp 11 [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:41 pm ]
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720pete wrote:
My only concern is the weather. Case has not played in extreme cold has he? How will that affect this team?

Mr. Research at your service.

Checking Keenum's career gamelogs against Weather Underground's data on the dates played, Keenum has appeared in only two NFL games where the temperature was 40 degrees or colder.

12-27-15 at Seattle. Temperature 40. Rams beat Seattle, 23-17. Keenum was 14-of-23 for 103 and 1 TD, no picks. Passer rating of 86.0.
12-15-16 at Seattle. Temperature 35. Rams lost to Seattle, 24-3. Keenum played in mop-up duty, going 5-of-9 for 32 yards. Passer rating of 63.2.

That being said, he's a competitive sucker. I think he's going to love the cold.

Author:  JacobC [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:16 pm ]
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This is a must win game. I would love for us to be the number one seed in the NFC! We are just about unbeatable at home! Rather play inside too where it’s warm! Let us see how we play in the cold weather Saturday night.

Author:  Cliff [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:22 pm ]
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J. Kapp 11 wrote:
720pete wrote:
My only concern is the weather. Case has not played in extreme cold has he? How will that affect this team?

Mr. Research at your service.

Checking Keenum's career gamelogs against Weather Underground's data on the dates played, Keenum has appeared in only two NFL games where the temperature was 40 degrees or colder.

12-27-15 at Seattle. Temperature 40. Rams beat Seattle, 23-17. Keenum was 14-of-23 for 103 and 1 TD, no picks. Passer rating of 86.0.
12-15-16 at Seattle. Temperature 35. Rams lost to Seattle, 24-3. Keenum played in mop-up duty, going 5-of-9 for 32 yards. Passer rating of 63.2.

That being said, he's a competitive sucker. I think he's going to love the cold.


I just don't think we can judge what Case might do based on any past performance. He's just not that guy anymore - at least in this offense or whatever your theory as to why may be. What does Case look like in the cold? Pfft - who knows? Many of us are just now coming to terms with what he looks like in normal game situations.

Author:  J. Kapp 11 [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:17 pm ]
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Cliff wrote:
J. Kapp 11 wrote:
720pete wrote:
My only concern is the weather. Case has not played in extreme cold has he? How will that affect this team?

Mr. Research at your service.

Checking Keenum's career gamelogs against Weather Underground's data on the dates played, Keenum has appeared in only two NFL games where the temperature was 40 degrees or colder.

12-27-15 at Seattle. Temperature 40. Rams beat Seattle, 23-17. Keenum was 14-of-23 for 103 and 1 TD, no picks. Passer rating of 86.0.
12-15-16 at Seattle. Temperature 35. Rams lost to Seattle, 24-3. Keenum played in mop-up duty, going 5-of-9 for 32 yards. Passer rating of 63.2.

That being said, he's a competitive sucker. I think he's going to love the cold.


I just don't think we can judge what Case might do based on any past performance. He's just not that guy anymore - at least in this offense or whatever your theory as to why may be. What does Case look like in the cold? Pfft - who knows? Many of us are just now coming to terms with what he looks like in normal game situations.

Totally agree.

I just like to nerd out. I mean, you have to be impressed at THAT research.

Author:  jackal [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:18 pm ]
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Yeah based on his Rams Jeff Fisher era time
he was paid two million which a bottom feeder
wage, even for a bench warmer back up vet.

The guy has played as well QBs getting ten times
his wage, shoot better than most QBs getting
twenty million a year.

We should at worst franchise him ...

Author:  808vikingsfan [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:12 pm ]
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Field temp forecast for Saturday, - 1 degrees, winds 10-15mph

Author:  PacificNorseWest [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:16 pm ]
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I don't think the weather is a factor for this Vikings team. Most were around two seasons ago having to play at TCF. That wind isn't so bad, but it's something. Vikings should win handedly, even if the score doesn't show it -- similar to the ATL game.

Author:  PurpleKoolaid [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:49 pm ]
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808vikingsfan wrote:
Field temp forecast for Saturday, - 1 degrees, winds 10-15mph


Thats going to be so cold, with the wind. Even 10-15 mph will seem much worse. I hate Lamdo in the winter, even with Hudley playing, this game may be close.

Author:  John_Viveiros [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:30 pm ]
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Where do you get the single digit temps? My weather sites all show temps around 20 at game time. I don't think we'll be hurt by that, especially since most of these guys played in colder temps at the U of M field.

Author:  808vikingsfan [ Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:08 pm ]
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John_Viveiros wrote:
Where do you get the single digit temps? My weather sites all show temps around 20 at game time. I don't think we'll be hurt by that, especially since most of these guys played in colder temps at the U of M field.


It's a field temp I believe. Got it from this tweet
https://twitter.com/JReidDraftScout/sta ... 8876345344

Author:  dead_poet [ Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:59 am ]
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Confirmed Adams out as well as Rodgers. So their top two weapons. Rhodes on Nelson.

If we can't win now...

Author:  jackal [ Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:11 pm ]
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I’m not worried about the next two games
much if we show up...

I am worried about going on the road in the
playoffs... we had the number one seed and
screwed it up.

Most likely we will face the Steelers or Patriots
in the big game. I think the Patriots would be
a better match for us.

Bottom line is our best is good enough
to beat anyone, if we play that way.

Will we play that way? When it counts ??

Author:  mansquatch [ Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:00 pm ]
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There is no guarranttee that Philadelphia gets out of the divisional round.

Consider:

The Rams have the softest remaining schedule and are currently at 10-4, they likely finish 12-4. The Saints are also 10-4, plus play the Falcons at home this weekend. That is must win for both of them. Saints finish against the lowly Bucs. So they are either going ot be 11-5 or 12-4. The Panthers are also 10-4 but finish the season at Atlanta. (Also must win.) The Falcons are 9-5, but could deliver losses to both the Saints and Panthers as they play both to finish out.

You've also got Seattle and Dallas from the outside looking in.

If Saints win this weekend, they will likely own the NFC S crown since they beat Carolina twice. Not sure if they'll beat ATL or not, but it probably doesn't matter. However, unless LAR lose, they are also 12-4 and own the tie breaker over NO since they beat them head to head.

So grouping is something like this:

#3 Rams
#4 Saints
#5 Panthers
#6 Falcons/Dallas/Seahawks

IMO, the Rams likely win their game in the wild card matchup. They completely dismantled Seattle last weekend, they beat Dallas previously as well. Falcons they haven't played, but you have to like their chances.

Saints vs. Panthers is interesting. The Saints owned Carolina this year, last beating them at the Superdome in November, but can they beat them a 3rd time? That can be a tall order in the NFL.

So IMO, the likely scenario is that either the Saints or Panthers go to Philadelphia to face an Eagles team without it's starting QB. I think especially if the Saints go this game is far from a gimme for the Eagles. Panthers maybe, but their defense should be able to handle Nick Foles.

For the Vikings the Rams get to come back to the House of Pain where they experienced their most lopsided loss of the year. Have to like the Purple in that one.

I think there are decent odds that the Viking never leave Minnesota during the playoffs. Perhaps a little revenge on the Saints for 2009 thrown in?

it is also possible that PHI loses it's next 2 and then we get the top seed, albeit probably not likely. OAK, if it decides to show up, can score points. Foles isn't Wentz, can they keep up? DAL comes in the following weekend needing to win for a chance at the last wild card spot. They will be hungry, Elliot is back, and their defense is playing better. Again, can Foles get it done?

Author:  PacificNorseWest [ Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:42 pm ]
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I'm not really nervous or worried about the Vikings against any team...I guess if I had to choose I would say Philadelphia and New Orleans. Philly because they have a great defense and if they have the #1 seed, it will be a very tough place to play. Saints because they don't have to waste any carries with AP this time around and what they've got going on with Kamara and Ingram is hard to defend. Their defense has also picked up some steam since they last played.

Honestly, I would be most scared of Seattle, but I doubt they get in.

Author:  Raptorman [ Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:00 pm ]
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mansquatch wrote:
There is no guarranttee that Philadelphia gets out of the divisional round.


So grouping is something like this:

#3 Rams
#4 Saints
#5 Panthers
#6 Falcons/Dallas/Seahawks

IMO, the Rams likely win their game in the wild card matchup. They completely dismantled Seattle last weekend, they beat Dallas previously as well. Falcons they haven't played, but you have to like their chances.


A couple of things. Detroit isn't out of it. If they win their last 2 and Falcons lose both, they would be the 6th seed. Tampa can really play the spoiler here. All they have to do is beat the Panthers and the Saints. From what I see, and I could be wrong, is if Carolina and Detroit both win out the least they can be is 5th and 6th seeds. Atlanta has to win one game to knock out the Lions. A lot will be determined this weekend.

Author:  J. Kapp 11 [ Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:35 pm ]
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Best comment I've heard all week:

"Green Bay is Buffalo. Cold, isolated, and unattractive to free agents. [Green Bay] is only talked about because of Aaron Rodgers."
Colin Cowherd

Nothing could be more true. Cowherd pointed out that the Pukers let their two best O-linemen go over the offseason. They didn't try to re-sign Jared Cook, even though Rodgers begged them to. They let two of their best defensive players, Micah Hyde and Casey Heyward, walk ... both are going to the Pro Bowl. Before the Panthers game, Aaron Rodgers said he wasn't coming back to be the savior. Sorry, Aaron, but you've got that wrong. You've had to be the savior for the past 7 years.

Cowherd is right. Without Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay is a smaller version of Buffalo. It does my heart good to see them flop.

Author:  Raptorman [ Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:46 pm ]
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J. Kapp 11 wrote:
720pete wrote:
My only concern is the weather. Case has not played in extreme cold has he? How will that affect this team?

Mr. Research at your service.

Checking Keenum's career gamelogs against Weather Underground's data on the dates played, Keenum has appeared in only two NFL games where the temperature was 40 degrees or colder.

12-27-15 at Seattle. Temperature 40. Rams beat Seattle, 23-17. Keenum was 14-of-23 for 103 and 1 TD, no picks. Passer rating of 86.0.
12-15-16 at Seattle. Temperature 35. Rams lost to Seattle, 24-3. Keenum played in mop-up duty, going 5-of-9 for 32 yards. Passer rating of 63.2.

That being said, he's a competitive sucker. I think he's going to love the cold.


Pretty sure Brett Hundley has never played a game in temps below 32 degrees. Wait, sorry, he played the Browns in 29 degrees.

Author:  720pete [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:29 am ]
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VIKINGS
Out: Tramaine Brock
Questionable: Andrew Sendejo, Mackenzie Alexander, Riley Rieff

PACKERS
Out: Aaron Rodgers, Davante Adams, Demetri Goodson
Doubtful: Nick Perry
Questionable: Jahri Evans, Davon House, Damarious Randall, Clay Matthews

Author:  petev_sj [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:19 pm ]
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Border battle that is becoming less and less meaningful each season. Some how Green Bay lucked into having 2 Hall of Fame QBs back to back. They wasted Aaron Rodgers arm talent. I see the Packers' high crest rolling back. A long dominant run that has finally ran its coarse.

Anyway, playing Green Bay in December is always fun. Hope the Vikings fan there can do the Skoal chant over the "Go Pack Go" theme music.

Author:  808vikingsfan [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:51 pm ]
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Cold weather, night game, on grass, against division rival. I really don't care how they win, I just hope they leave GB with a W, and without injuries.

Author:  Husker Vike [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:01 pm ]
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808vikingsfan wrote:
Cold weather, night game, on grass, against division rival. I really don't care how they win, I just hope they leave GB with a W, and without injuries.

My thoughts as well.

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