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Teddy will start against Chicago

Post by purplehaze » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:27 pm

Because we will have the #1 seed wrapped up and don't want to risk Case getting hurt. :D
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Re: Teddy will start against Chicago

Post by PacificNorseWest » Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:40 am

I can see that and I can see it sooner. Pretty sure one bad game from Keenum will do it. Fair or not..
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Post by autobon7 » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:40 am

PacificNorseWest wrote:I can see that and I can see it sooner. Pretty sure one bad game from Keenum will do it. Fair or not..
What would happen if Teddy has a terrible game? Are you flip flopping? I don't agree with you on this.
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Re: Teddy will start against Chicago

Post by PurpleKoolaid » Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:39 pm

This is one of the stupidest titles to a thread Ive seen. It states it as a fact, when all it is, is a poor joke.
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Re: Teddy will start against Chicago

Post by TeamChaplain » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:25 am

At this point Case is playing better than Teddy ever did. I could see playing Teddy against the Bears. There will definitely be a decision at some point though, I don't think the Vikes can keep both Keenum and Bridgewater.
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Re: Teddy will start against Chicago

Post by PacificNorseWest » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:50 pm

autobon7 wrote: What would happen if Teddy has a terrible game? Are you flip flopping? I don't agree with you on this.

That post was damn near a month ago ding dong. :lol:

Things change...Right now there's no question Case is the guy and even if Minnesota clinches early and plays Teddy, Case should still be the guy.
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Re: Teddy will start against Chicago

Post by PurpleKoolaid » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:17 pm

TeamChaplain wrote:At this point Case is playing better than Teddy ever did. I could see playing Teddy against the Bears. There will definitely be a decision at some point though, I don't think the Vikes can keep both Keenum and Bridgewater.
He also has a better Oline then Teddy did. And better receivers then Teddy ever did. And a better running game the Teddy ever did. And a better OC then Teddy ever did. And a better D then Teddy ever did. Get the picture?
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Re: Teddy will start against Chicago

Post by dead_poet » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:50 pm

PurpleKoolaid wrote: He also has a better Oline then Teddy did. And better receivers then Teddy ever did. And a better running game the Teddy ever did. And a better OC then Teddy ever did. And a better D then Teddy ever did. Get the picture?
And arguably Teddy played better than Case ever did prior to coming to Minnesota.
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Re: Teddy will start against Chicago

Post by mansquatch » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:17 am

The real question is has Teddy ever played better than Case is playing right now. The answer to that I think is no. Any talk about ceiling is speculation. People need to remember that going into 2016, before Teddy got hurt the thought was one of "we hope Teddy turns the corner." The fact is, we are seeing before our eyes that Keenum HAS turned the corner.

Consider this comparison:

Keenum 2017: 11 games 2,703 yards, 16TD 5INT
Bridgewater 2015: 16 Games 3,231 yards, 14TD 9INT

Keenum has 5 more gmaes to go and he already has 2 more TD. He would have to play at level close to the worst from Ponder in order to end up close to TB's last full season stats. More likely he is going to end up in tickling 4000 yards and 20-23 TD. The Vikings coaching staff has, IMO, made the right choice in not benching Keenum. His play simply does not justify it.

For me, the big take away here is that in 2016 we have one guy who IS doing the job vs. another guy who folks HOPE could do the job and MAYBE do it better. Given that we are currently the #1 seed in the NFC, I think Teddy should ride the bench.

If Keenum gets hurt, Teddy will get his chance.

FWIW, I hope Teddy can make a comeback, but I'm really starting to wonder if it will be with the Vikings.
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Re: Teddy will start against Chicago

Post by PurpleKoolaid » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:31 am

mansquatch wrote:The real question is has Teddy ever played better than Case is playing right now. The answer to that I think is no. Any talk about ceiling is speculation. People need to remember that going into 2016, before Teddy got hurt the thought was one of "we hope Teddy turns the corner." The fact is, we are seeing before our eyes that Keenum HAS turned the corner.

Consider this comparison:

Keenum 2017: 11 games 2,703 yards, 16TD 5INT
Bridgewater 2015: 16 Games 3,231 yards, 14TD 9INT

Keenum has 5 more gmaes to go and he already has 2 more TD. He would have to play at level close to the worst from Ponder in order to end up close to TB's last full season stats. More likely he is going to end up in tickling 4000 yards and 20-23 TD. The Vikings coaching staff has, IMO, made the right choice in not benching Keenum. His play simply does not justify it.

For me, the big take away here is that in 2016 we have one guy who IS doing the job vs. another guy who folks HOPE could do the job and MAYBE do it better. Given that we are currently the #1 seed in the NFC, I think Teddy should ride the bench.

If Keenum gets hurt, Teddy will get his chance.

FWIW, I hope Teddy can make a comeback, but I'm really starting to wonder if it will be with the Vikings.
Case has twice the team Teddy did. You cant really even compare it. its pure speculation either way. But theres no reason to doubt Teddy could be just as good, if Case managed to do it.
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Re: Teddy will start against Chicago

Post by mansquatch » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:14 pm

I think you are missing what I'm saying. Going into 2016 there were threads on here saying "Teddy needs to be a 20TD QB" etc. We've never seen Teddy actually do that. I get the hope and his flashes of potential, I really do. But the reality is we are seeing Case Keenum actually do the things we hoped Teddy would do.

For me it is hard sell to say on one hand we've got this guy who IS delivering the goods, ergo potential 4000 yard season. Then on the other hand we've got this guy who has flashed some good things, but has never produced an good to elite season. Yet we think he might be as good or maybe even marginally better than the first guy.

To me, when you've got a guy on pace for 4000 yards you do not mess around with it. That isn't far off from saying "well I've got Drew Brees, but this other guy might be the next Rogers, so I should bench Brees."
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Re: Teddy will start against Chicago

Post by PurpleKoolaid » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:59 pm

mansquatch wrote:I think you are missing what I'm saying. Going into 2016 there were threads on here saying "Teddy needs to be a 20TD QB" etc. We've never seen Teddy actually do that. I get the hope and his flashes of potential, I really do. But the reality is we are seeing Case Keenum actually do the things we hoped Teddy would do.

For me it is hard sell to say on one hand we've got this guy who IS delivering the goods, ergo potential 4000 yard season. Then on the other hand we've got this guy who has flashed some good things, but has never produced an good to elite season. Yet we think he might be as good or maybe even marginally better than the first guy.

To me, when you've got a guy on pace for 4000 yards you do not mess around with it. That isn't far off from saying "well I've got Drew Brees, but this other guy might be the next Rogers, so I should bench Brees."
Who is calling for Teddy to be benched?
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