Re: It's time to give Case Keenum his due
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:55 pm
I must really be the odd man out not being weirded out by seeing his name on the list since Favre (Marino and Tark aside) is my favorite QB ever.
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I'm curious.PurpleKoolaid wrote:It is really getting annoying (not on here all the time, but on some sites and blogs) to hear how GREAT Case is. He is doing well, making good reads, not getting sacked, few INTs (luckily, cause some of his throws are really bad), but his receivers are bailing him out, especially Adam Theilen. Diggs and Kyle are doing the same thing. I guess Shurmur must have said, just throw it close to them, let them do the rest. I have this terrible feeling in my gut Case's luck is going to run out, and Teddy is going to be too rusty because he wont have the time to get ready. Again I hope I am wrong, but I talk to a lot of friends that are so high on Case, and ask them whats he done. How many 11-5 seasons has he had? Why didnt anyone want him starting this year? Hes either one of the luckiest QBs in the world, getting the starting job when he did, or he is a good QB. So many things are in his favor, like a defense Zimmer trusts. I like Case too, but I want to win a SB just about more then anything. And I know how sad that is, but season after season of something keeping that dream away has worn me down.
I'll be as happy as anyone. I hope hes good enough to get us there, because most of the guys he relies are. He got on the team at just the right time. Im just tired of hearing Case is the reason we are here, when I think Teddy could have been playing for us for weeks, getting ready for the big game, with the same record. What song will you be singing if Case goes back to his former self, or AT and the receivers fail to keep bailing him out? The only sin right now is to be a Teddy fan. My point is, I hope Zimmer is right about not trusting his first instincts of letting Teddy play when he was cleared as ready to play.J. Kapp 11 wrote: I'm curious.
If Case Keenum leads the Vikings to the NFC Championship, first team ever to host a Super Bowl, will you still be singing this "if Case implodes and Teddy is rusty" song?
I appreciate the measured nature of your comments ... same for PurpleKoolaid. I'm not here to start a war.John_Viveiros wrote:I like Case Keenum's attitude, and I don't think you can bench the guy after 7 straight wins, but...
I've just re-watched the season so far - well, I still have the Rams and Lions games left to go. Case is not an accurate QB. The ball goes all over the place when he throws. He moves really well. But he under-throws the long ball a lot! And his passes to crossing receivers are behind the guy a lot!
And then he hits Rudolph for that perfect TD last game while taking the hit. He makes some great throws, but he's not that consistent. I think Thielen and Diggs are top of the league in catching contested balls (those that either team can reach).
I hesitate a bit to share this, knowing it will start a big blowup. So let's be adults. No one has shot your dog or stole your girlfriend. Someone just has a different opinion than you about a person that has a pretty inconsequential effect on your life. Here it is: http://presnapreads.com/2017/11/28/case ... ing-casts/
I listened to Mike Wobschall's Wobcast this morning on the way in to work. They had Pat Elflein as a guest, and his words were particularly important.Cliff wrote:Case has some accuracy issues, I can agree with that. No QB is perfect though and despite those "could have been" intercepted passes his TD/INT ratio is fine by me. Plus, are we going back and looking at every INT that did get thrown to make sure it was his fault? No tipped balls? No bad routes?
Would Case do as well without the great receiving corps? Almost certainly not, but isn't that the case for most QBs? How does Matt Ryan look without Jones? What about any QB Jerry Rice or Randy Moss played for? The bottom line is that Case is putting the ball where his receivers can get it. I don't care that *if* the receivers were worse they might not catch the passes. They are good enough, the ball is where it needs to be to get caught, and as a result the offense looks better than it has in nearly a decade.
If the team loses with Case in the playoffs then so be it. Barring a complete melt down, Case has earned the 2017 Vikings being his.
On Facebook someone posted a question of who should be rookie of the year for offense. Desaun Watson was on there... And a few others. But has any rookie been more valuable to their team than Pat Elflein?Dmizzle0 wrote:I mostly agree with everybody but we got to give credit to our improved OL.
From a statistical perspective, you can’t question his accuracy or efficiency. Yes, sometimes he throws a bad ball, and sometimes he misses a read, and sometimes he doesn’t place the ball in just the right spot... but neither does any other top quarterback.J. Kapp 11 wrote:Case Keenum today vs. Atlanta:
25-30 for 227 yards and 2 TDs, 0 INT.
120.4 QBR.
His QBR is now 98.4 for the season on 243-360 for 2,703, 16 TDs, 5 INT.
I continue to wonder why it's even a question.halfgiz wrote:Adam Schefter
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Vikings’ QB Case Keenum went 18-of-18 on passes thrown between the painted field numbers Sunday, the most attempts without an incompletion since it was first tracked in 2006.
Good posts Kapp
Zimmer already named Keenum starter next week.