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Since Ponder was drafted we have not seen ANY good QB's or competition IF/WHEN the starter goes down.


Because the GM was never willing to sign/draft anyone capable of competing. Which was pointed out by multiple posters every year since Ponder was drafted. Including the signing of a guy like Keenum... :hitfan:


Keenum is a very good backup and provides us with quality depth. I think that is pretty clear at this point given he's 3-2. But of course you cant get past the "I hate Spielman" goggles you have on.

....Just the same old Demi coming on here to make one random post about how bad of a GM Spielman is :roll: Rock me to sleep....

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Teddy coming off PUP. Expected to practice Wednesday. Wow. :rock:

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Not to get off topic - but I would like to hear how Sloter is looking. If he is 2nd string I am sure he is getting some reps in practice. Is he making throws,looking sharp or looking bad.
But I'm sure Zimmer wants to keep it hush how he is doing.

Agree DP great news for Teddy and the team.


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Not to get off topic - but I would like to hear how Sloter is looking. If he is 2nd string I am sure he is getting some reps in practice. Is he making throws,looking sharp or looking bad.
But I'm sure Zimmer wants to keep it hush how he is doing.

Agree DP great news for Teddy and the team.


It'll be interesting to see who gets the reps. There are only so many to go around. I wonder if Sam goes on IR. I doubt Sloter has been getting many? Or enough to really make a determination.

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It would be nice if during the next few game Case refined his accuracy. Thats the main problem with him, he has decent pocket awareness and steps up into the pocket when need be.

But to be honest, the receivers has made his jobs easier. And I know some people are going to give that credit to Rick, even though Diggs didnt go to the 5th round, and AT was un-drafted. Theses guys fought for a spot and it worked out well for them. Especially AT, who grew up about 30 miles from where I grew up. Its so much colder up there then the cites. You gotta have a tough mentality just to get to work.

People were really high on Case after his first win, but when he lost, a lot of people saw what he looked like a lot of the time. If we can get consistency from him, it would be his team to be QB in. But I doubt anyone thinks that will happen.


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Since Ponder was drafted we have not seen ANY good QB's or competition IF/WHEN the starter goes down.


Because the GM was never willing to sign/draft anyone capable of competing. Which was pointed out by multiple posters every year since Ponder was drafted. Including the signing of a guy like Keenum... :hitfan:

You mean the guy who just beat the Bears at Soldier Field, where we never win? Or the guy who beat Green Bay yesterday? A guy like that?

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You mean the guy who just beat the Bears at Soldier Field, where we never win? Or the guy who beat Green Bay yesterday? A guy like that?


Yeah no less he came in as relief in the second half. And had limited practice reps all week

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You mean the guy who just beat the Bears at Soldier Field, where we never win? Or the guy who beat Green Bay yesterday? A guy like that?


Yeah no less he came in as relief in the second half. And had limited practice reps all week



-_- The Keenum support is baffling. Its like watching a Starting pitcher give up 5 hits a row that the outfielders have to steal from over the fence to prevent Home Runs and then bragging about how many fly outs he gets.

He was completely and 100% bailed out against Green Bay. He didn't complete the pass to Mickinnon. Treadwell had to PINCH A FOOTBALL in order to catch that ball. Adam had to make a couple of absurd catches. He missed on a several wide open throws. Not to mention the two if not three drops by Green Bay defenders. His stat line SHOULD. Not could have. SHOULD read; 20-38 186 yards. 1 TD 2 INT.

He lead a single TD drive and personally killed the rest. As far as I am concerned he basically contributed -1 points yesterday. 7 for the TD and then -8 for the two stalled out field goal drives because he couldn't do anything.

I am thankful he is our backup because he is a good backup but a couple of monster bombs a game doesn't make up for terrible short and intermediate accuracy


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Pondering Her Percy wrote:
J. Kapp 11 wrote:
You mean the guy who just beat the Bears at Soldier Field, where we never win? Or the guy who beat Green Bay yesterday? A guy like that?


Yeah no less he came in as relief in the second half. And had limited practice reps all week



-_- The Keenum support is baffling. Its like watching a Starting pitcher give up 5 hits a row that the outfielders have to steal from over the fence to prevent Home Runs and then bragging about how many fly outs he gets.

He was completely and 100% bailed out against Green Bay. He didn't complete the pass to Mickinnon. Treadwell had to PINCH A FOOTBALL in order to catch that ball. Adam had to make a couple of absurd catches. He missed on a several wide open throws. Not to mention the two if not three drops by Green Bay defenders. His stat line SHOULD. Not could have. SHOULD read; 20-38 186 yards. 1 TD 2 INT.

He lead a single TD drive and personally killed the rest. As far as I am concerned he basically contributed -1 points yesterday. 7 for the TD and then -8 for the two stalled out field goal drives because he couldn't do anything.

I am thankful he is our backup because he is a good backup but a couple of monster bombs a game doesn't make up for terrible short and intermediate accuracy


I was referring to Keenum coming in vs Chicago where he bailed us out of probably losing. As for GB, yeah it wasnt his best game. Nobody on here is saying the guy is a good starter or the next Tom Brady. We are more or less saying that it was a good move by Spielman because we have a solid backup that can win us games. He's a backup, did you expect his accuracy to be good? No nobody did but he's managing games and we're winning which is all that matters.

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Case is growing on me, even though he wasnt good yesterday, and the receivers were making awesome catches. Hes a little lucky too. He puts the ball where his receivers have a chance on the ball to make plays. Even though the pass to Treadwell was bad, Treadwell stepped up and showed what he is capable of.

He is 4-2. He is a decent backup, which I didnt believe he would be. I dont know what happens when Teddy is back on the active roster, but i hope case is on it as well. Sam looked awful, and afraid last game he started, he should have never been cleared to play.

I wonder if next year the roster will be Teddy, Case and Slotter. Teddy would have to prove himself, not only that he recovered fully, but can be a good QB. See the open receivers and hit them. With the new line maybe he can hit some deeper balls. My main concern is, will Teddy ever really be the same physically. I think mentally he is as strong as anyone.


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Teddy's head, Sam's arm, and Case's knees. Case Bradwater.

WE CAN REBUILD HIM.....WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY!


Something tells me it's going to cost way more than $6 Million dollars though!


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Teddy's head, Sam's arm, and Case's knees. Case Bradwater.

WE CAN REBUILD HIM.....WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY!


Something tells me it's going to cost way more than $6 Million dollars though!


Well that's only if he plays well through his first contract. Even though he's the combination of a couple high round picks nothing is guaranteed in this league. Of course we would give Frankenback the normal 3 years to prove himself.

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Teddy's head, Sam's arm, and Case's knees. Case Bradwater.

WE CAN REBUILD HIM.....WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY!


Something tells me it's going to cost way more than $6 Million dollars though!

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Keenum has the heart of a lion, and has made a few good plays.
But in all of the games this season, he has been bailed out by his receivers quite a bit. High floaty stuff, that gets receivers hurt that Thielen/Diggs and now Treadwell, have been bailing him out. I can't remember that many balls that were fizzed in between 'the numbers'.
His heart and his ability to read defences, has helped his limited talent over the course of the season.
I feel he will do enough to get us through Baltimore and Cleveland. But he will have to improve his play after the bye to get us to the playoffs IMO. Or Sam gets healthy by then.


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Case has been a little better then I thought but he's still very inconsistent. The question we should ask is, is he possibly going to be good enough to win deep in the playoffs? If not, then can either Teddy or Bradford get healthy enough and come back? I don't know the answer to either. Just that so far Case has been exceptionally great or wildly bad game to game. I want to hear what they say about Teddy. He's cleared to practice, but how is his knee and mobility? 90% of what it was? More or less?


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How good is Keenum playing.

http://zonecoverage.com/2017/vikings/ha ... se-keenum/


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This is really interesting. Thanks for posting.

He's playing well, but in reading the whole thing, the author (who is very knowledgeable ... I've read a lot of his stuff) concludes many of the same things some of us have concluded in this thread. Keenum's ball placement and lack of arm strength are the reasons he's not a starter. He typically throws well up the seam, but not so well to the sidelines. It seems logical that opposing teams will do everything they can to take away the middle of the field and force him to throw outside the numbers.

For now, he's playing great. We've got two beatable opponents to hopefully get to 6-2, and then the bye perfectly timed at exactly the halfway point of the season. We'll know more about our other quarterbacks by the time Week 10 rolls around.

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000863224/article/ranking-every-nfl-teams-backup-qb-from-1-to-32

NFL.com ranked every teams backup. Keenum sits at #5. Although I dont understand the Jacoby Brisset hype. I dont think he is good at all.

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So depressing...

It is conceivable that next year Case Keenum will be our only healthy starting QB. I know that is worst case, but given all that we are seeing it is an outcome with real potential to occur. If that isn't enough of a gut punch, it is happening because of bad luck and nothing more. UGH.


Well trading for an injury prone QB was not a good idea.


That injury-prone QB did a pretty great job for us last season, with a crap OL.

You would have preferred to go with Shaun Hill?

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You would have preferred to go with Shaun Hill?


Exactly and I've said the same thing and get no response. Some fans love to complain about the trade but have zero alternative. And if anyone thinks Shaun Hill was that alternative you need your eyes checked. Bradford gave us our best shot to get to the SB. With the injuries that happened, that failed. But in no way was it a bad trade. 20:5 TD INT ratio and almost 4000 yards with no OL and running game. I would say thats pretty darn good. But I'd love to hear some alternatives :whistle:

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I was thrilled with Bradford and really wanted
him to be our guy, but the guy seems to have a
problem with his injuries(knee) Teddy was not accurate
to me down the field. NFL defenses are too
fast for a short field throw only offense.

Peterson was one of the only backs in history
that could a create an offense all on his own.

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According to Mort, Sam got FIVE injections into his knee this week as part of the Regenokine therapy he's doing.

This article says he could miss the rest of the season (scan to the bottom-ish)

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/patri ... story.html

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Teddy could start week 10 (my guess is week 11 pending Sam's condition)

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1404153/amp

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Can everyone please remember this game so we can drop the "Keenum is viable" stuff?


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Vikings win Case closed. :rock:


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Keenum has the heart of a lion, and has made a few good plays.
But in all of the games this season, he has been bailed out by his receivers quite a bit. High floaty stuff, that gets receivers hurt that Thielen/Diggs and now Treadwell, have been bailing him out. I can't remember that many balls that were fizzed in between 'the numbers'.
His heart and his ability to read defences, has helped his limited talent over the course of the season.
I feel he will do enough to get us through Baltimore and Cleveland. But he will have to improve his play after the bye to get us to the playoffs IMO. Or Sam gets healthy by then.



Solid post and agree 100%


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Case will have his luck run out, and some of his accuracy problems will result in INTs. Im just hoping he can play well enough till we can get Teddy on the field. Im guessing Sam wont even be on this team next year. Thats why you dont spend a first round pick on an injury prone QB, when your Oline is as bad as our was his first year. Should have played the cards we were dealt and let Hill take over, since he is all Rick had for a backup for us. Sam should retire while he can still walk the rest of his life.


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Case will have his luck run out, and some of his accuracy problems will result in INTs. Im just hoping he can play well enough till we can get Teddy on the field. Im guessing Sam wont even be on this team next year. Thats why you dont spend a first round pick on an injury prone QB, when your Oline is as bad as our was his first year. Should have played the cards we were dealt and let Hill take over, since he is all Rick had for a backup for us. Sam should retire while he can still walk the rest of his life.
Give it a #### rest with #### about Sam. We get it, you don't like him. Move the hell on.

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Case will have his luck run out, and some of his accuracy problems will result in INTs. Im just hoping he can play well enough till we can get Teddy on the field. Im guessing Sam wont even be on this team next year. Thats why you dont spend a first round pick on an injury prone QB, when your Oline is as bad as our was his first year. Should have played the cards we were dealt and let Hill take over, since he is all Rick had for a backup for us. Sam should retire while he can still walk the rest of his life.
Give it a #### rest with #### about Sam. We get it, you don't like him. Move the hell on.

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Where did I say I didnt like him? I hated and still hate the trade we made for him. Im going to make more posts about it, and about Waynes, and even Rick. So dont read my posts and move the **** on k?


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Vikings win Case closed. :rock:

True.

But they won in spite of Case today. He was pretty awful. An average game from Case, and we blow them out. We were way better.

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