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Sam-Teddy-Case thread

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:13 am
by dead_poet
This article sums it up. A lot of moving parts.

http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post ... qb-dilemma

Re: Sam-Teddy-Case thread

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:28 pm
by Pondering Her Percy
Wow yeah it's a good read. Helps clarify some things. Thanks for the post

Re: Sam-Teddy-Case thread

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:13 pm
by mansquatch
So depressing...

It is conceivable that next year Case Keenum will be our only healthy starting QB. I know that is worst case, but given all that we are seeing it is an outcome with real potential to occur. If that isn't enough of a gut punch, it is happening because of bad luck and nothing more. UGH.

Re: Sam-Teddy-Case thread

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:40 pm
by PurpleKoolaid
mansquatch wrote:So depressing...

It is conceivable that next year Case Keenum will be our only healthy starting QB. I know that is worst case, but given all that we are seeing it is an outcome with real potential to occur. If that isn't enough of a gut punch, it is happening because of bad luck and nothing more. UGH.
Well trading for an injury prone QB was not a good idea.

But yes, it is a depressing idea. I just dont know if we have anyone to scout and pick our future QB. I really thought Teddy might be it.

Re: Sam-Teddy-Case thread

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:37 pm
by Texas Vike
mansquatch wrote:So depressing...

It is conceivable that next year Case Keenum will be our only healthy starting QB. I know that is worst case, but given all that we are seeing it is an outcome with real potential to occur. If that isn't enough of a gut punch, it is happening because of bad luck and nothing more. UGH.

It sucks. We have been very unfortunate with injuries.

In very Vikings' fashion, Bradford looked amazing in the season opener (just as Teddy had during preseason before his injury) and just when we all start thinking about making a run, the football gods pulled the rug out from under us again.

Then Dalvin looks like ROY material, and we get it again.

Do we love to be tortured or what?

Re: Sam-Teddy-Case thread

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:26 pm
by PurpleMustReign
Keenum. Only signed for one year I think.

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Re: Sam-Teddy-Case thread

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:09 pm
by S197
Teddy's head, Sam's arm, and Case's knees. Case Bradwater.

Re: Sam-Teddy-Case thread

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:25 pm
by PurpleMustReign
S197 wrote:Teddy's head, Sam's arm, and Case's knees. Case Bradwater.
Teddy Caseford?

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Re: Sam-Teddy-Case thread

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:12 pm
by dead_poet
PurpleMustReign wrote:Teddy Caseford?

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Sasey Keenfordwater?

Re: Sam-Teddy-Case thread

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:37 pm
by PurpleMustReign
dead_poet wrote: Sasey Keenfordwater?
Cambridge Watercase?

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Re: Sam-Teddy-Case thread

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:46 am
by Just Me
PurpleMustReign wrote:Cambridge Watercase?

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Sounds like a Harvard grad...

Re: Sam-Teddy-Case thread

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:53 am
by mosscarter
Its another quarterback debacle no matter how you slice it. If Case keeps playing decent there is no way he will be back next year we got him at a huge discount. I hate to say it, but I doubt Bradford plays again this year and I've never been a fan of Teddy. Seems to me it is a lose-lose-lose situation at least as of now. Someone said go after Cousins and spend the money. I'd be all for it. It is a shame with such a good defense on the other side we can't get a true number one qb. On a bit of an opposite note, how much longer should we continue to say Treadwell is going to improve? He has been a complete ghost out there in fact, so much so I'm not sure he's caught more than 1 pass. It is hard to believe some of the poor draft choices we've made in the first round.

Re: Sam-Teddy-Case thread

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:03 am
by 808vikingsfan
Don't forget Sloter

Caseodore Slotford

Re: Sam-Teddy-Case thread

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:54 am
by Pondering Her Percy
mosscarter wrote:Its another quarterback debacle no matter how you slice it. If Case keeps playing decent there is no way he will be back next year we got him at a huge discount. I hate to say it, but I doubt Bradford plays again this year and I've never been a fan of Teddy. Seems to me it is a lose-lose-lose situation at least as of now. Someone said go after Cousins and spend the money. I'd be all for it. It is a shame with such a good defense on the other side we can't get a true number one qb. On a bit of an opposite note, how much longer should we continue to say Treadwell is going to improve? He has been a complete ghost out there in fact, so much so I'm not sure he's caught more than 1 pass. It is hard to believe some of the poor draft choices we've made in the first round.
He's caught 5 passes and I've said time and time again, He's a #3 WR. Do you expect him to surpass Thielen and Diggs at this point?? He's stuck there and there isnt much thats going to change. We were never able to plug him into the #1 or #2 spot because Diggs continued to shine and Thielen came out of nowhere. If you ask me, we dont know what his true talent is because he hasnt gotten the opportunity.

As for the QB situation, it's a pile of bad luck. You know what I really find funny......

The fact that Sam Bradford is labeled "injury prone" because of two ACL injuries and it was "stupid" to trade for him. Teddy Bridgewater has 1 ACL injury. Does that mean he's one injury away from being "injury prone". Outside of the ACL's, Bradford missed some time due to a sprained ankle and only missed two games with a shoulder sprain.

Teddy on the other had, has 1 ACL injury, a concussion and also an ankle sprain that caused him to miss time his rookie year.

So because Sam Bradford has ONE more ACL injury than Teddy, he's considered injury prone?? Is that really how it works?? Remember when everyone said Rudy was injury prone and wanted Spielman to pull the plug on him?? I sure do. And I sat there and said that wasnt smart because he was a pro bowl TE when healthy. Rudy hasnt been hurt in how many seasons now?? (knock on wood) Sorry but I dont buy the "injury prone" tag.

Sam Bradford was sacked and pummeled the most he's ever been in his career last year and didnt miss a single game. If he was "injury prone" he would've gotten hurt somewhere in that time frame. He didnt. So honestly I'm over listening to "yeah Spielman was so dumb trading for an injury prone QB".

The BIG question is, coming off an 11-5 playoff season, having a loaded defense, still having AP who was coming off a big year and having Super Bowl contenders written all over us, everyone that thinks Spielman was dumb for trading for Sam was okay with rolling with Shaun Hill the rest of the year?? Or some practice squad, low level QB?? I'll wait..... :whistle:

Re: Sam-Teddy-Case thread

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:02 am
by Cliff
Spielman made the right move to trade for Bradford I think but I also think it's fair to say he's injury prone (if that's the phrase you want to use). That's to say he's more likely than a person who has never had an ACL tear to have problems with his knee. The fact that it has happened twice makes it worse, of course. Now there is yet a 3rd problem with the knee.

Three injuries to the same knee that is now so bad it's hard to tell what's wrong with it when it starts acting up. I don't know if that's "injury prone" but I do know it's a lot more likely to get injured than someone who hasn't had the same problems.

Bridgewater's ACL could very well put him into the same category before it's all said and done. We just don't know yet. His concussion I think we all know wasn't a result of him being "prone to injury".