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soflavike wrote:Feel bad for Dalvin. Hope the surgery goes well and he can recover for next year.

Looks like Murray and McKInnon going forward this season. I hope they can go forward, anyway. McKinnon is a decent 3rd down back, not great... Murray looks slow and clumsy to me. A lot of excitement and danger just got removed from the Vikings offense.

Norv Zimmer wrote: I am going to hold my opinions about Murray for another week. Let's wait and see him after a full week practice with the starters.

Pondering Her Percy wrote: I played against Murray in high school. He's a poor mans AD IMO. When it comes to running the ball. He's a straight line powerful runner. Not very shifty. Catches and blocks much better than AD. He's definitely a solid back though

VikingLord wrote:
Honestly, I think as long as Murray can pick up 3-4 yards a pop on average and not fumble the ball, that's what they need him to do to have success as a unit. I don't expect Murray to bust off huge plays and he likely won't be anywhere near as exciting as Cook, but if he can do his part, the offense can still be successful this year.

Pondering Her Percy wrote: I played against Murray in high school. He's a poor mans AD IMO. When it comes to running the ball. He's a straight line powerful runner. Not very shifty. Catches and blocks much better than AD. He's definitely a solid back though

Comparing the safety of new and improved modern artificial turf fields to grass fields has become a back-and-forth debate over the past few years. Studies have provided evidence supporting and opposing the idea that turf fields are more dangerous than grass fields. According to Justin Shaginaw, an athletic trainer for the US soccer federation, a 2011 study found a higher frequency of ankle injuries on turf for football, soccer, and rugby players. Also, a 2012 study showed that more college football players suffered ACL injuries on turf than on grass. On the other hand, both a 2010 study on college football players and a 2013 study on female college soccer players showed a higher frequency of all injuries on grass than on turf. However, according to John Brenkus in one of his Sport Science videos, recent studies have shown that turf reduces the risk for injury by over 10%, yet turf increases stress on the ACL joint by about 45%. Brenkus even talked about a study covering over 2,600 NFL games, saying players were 67% more likely to sprain their ACL on turf than on grass.

Dr. Michael Freitas, associate professor of clinical orthopedics and team doctor for the Western New York Flash (which plays on turf), says it's hard to tell if there's actually a difference between playing on artificial turf versus natural grass in terms of injuries.

"One of the issues is not all turf is created equally," Freitas says, citing studies across several sports. "I think the jury is still out. I think there's not enough information out there right now to say one is better than the other."

He said in the last year, the Flash had three major injuries on three different surfaces — grass, and two different types of turf.

"This illustrates the fact that we don't really know if one is better than the other," he says. "But from a lot of players I've talked to, artificial surfaces can be harder, less cushioning, and they may get more aches and pains as opposed to a true catastrophic ligament rupture. I don't know if those symptoms are captured in the studies we see."

This is mainly what Morgan has experienced firsthand.

"When I play on grass, my body doesn't ache," she says. "It can get sore, but it doesn't pulse and my legs don't ache. When I play on turf, my legs can pulse and ache for up to 24 hours and it could take 3-5 days to recover, whereas grass, after 24 hours I'm ready to play again."

UKno1VIKING wrote:Is there a reason why we can't have actual grass turf in the stadium?
What with the roof, and being able to open the panels. doesn't it just behave like a big greenhouse?

nightowl wrote:Side note, I think Viking fans need to take up a collection and hire a team of of Exorsists & Shamans to remove whatever curse is hanging over this franchise. Someone must have broken the mother of all mirrors or killed someone's billy goat or something. It's ridiculous how snake-bit this franchise is.