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Author:  Purple Martin [ Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:56 am ]
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IrishViking wrote:
PurpleMustReign wrote:
Cliff wrote:
I'm not sure what either side of the deal between NO and Peterson saw - other than Peterson seeing some money, of course.
That's what I said at the beginning. It made no sense for him to sign there.

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Bingo. Revenge is best served cold but AP wanted to dish it out hot.


Plus, I don't think he's really bright enough to be able to see which teams he fits and which ones he doesn't. He thinks he can carry any team, anywhere, anytime...

Author:  Norv Zimmer [ Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:58 am ]
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Would people be opposed to offer the Saints a 7th rounder for AP?

I for one would not do it, but I have seen a lot of posts about bringing him back after the Cook injury and Murray looking less than spectacular.

Author:  PurpleMustReign [ Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:11 am ]
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Norv Zimmer wrote:
Would people be opposed to offer the Saints a 7th rounder for AP?

I for one would not do it, but I have seen a lot of posts about bringing him back after the Cook injury and Murray looking less than spectacular.
I would, but with the idea that he is the backup to Murray. Mckinnon getting hurt is not a good thing either, we basically have Murray and CJ Ham.

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Author:  PurpleMustReign [ Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:17 am ]
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That would be interesting with our improved OL.

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Author:  Norv Zimmer [ Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:57 am ]
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Depending on his outlook, I think him and Murray could be bruisers together. Defenses would get so worn down.

I don't think the brass will bring him back though.

Author:  Purple Martin [ Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:11 am ]
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Oh puhleeeeeeze stop with the bringing AP back talk. :sleep: He wasn't effective when he was here, and another injury or two and we'll be right back to a horrible OL or an AP on the sidelines. And you know that would happen, because we're the Vikings. Lets keep looking forward, not backward to a day that's never coming back.

Author:  VikingLord [ Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:32 pm ]
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PurpleKoolaid wrote:
VikingLord wrote:
To me, AD is similar in some ways to Moss. Both had blemishes coming out of college that caused them to drop to the Vikings when both should have been top-3 selections in their respective draft years, both hit the ground running and had huge impacts as rookies and created a lot of immediate excitement and buzz, and both also had sizable egos that eventually rubbed enough people the wrong way that a parting with the organization became almost inevitable. Both also then went to teams that weren't great fits. In Moss's case, he found his way to the Patriots and some more glory, while in AD's case the final stanza of his career has yet to be written. For all we know he could follow a similar track and make it to a good team that can use his talents in a way that benefits both.

Moss, for what it's worth, seems to have bonded and identifies with the Vikings, and the fans for the most part seem to return that sentiment for him. I was a little surprised that the fans booed AD on his first carry, but honestly I could have seen the same thing happening to Moss had Oakland come to play their next game against Minnesota after that trade. Moss had been pretty unhappy and pretty vocal about his unhappiness prior to that as well.

We'll see what happens with AD and whether sentiment or resentment becomes the dominant emotion in a few years for both AD and the Vikings. I honestly think shipping AD was a good move for the Vikings. He was falling off and could no longer be the focal point of the offense, so as far as results go his presence was hurting the Vikings more than helping them. But I think in a few more years, when everyone involved has some perspective on things, AD's number and name will be on that Ring of Honor next to Randy's.


Couldnt disagree more. NO WAY would the fans have booed Moss had he played against us with Oak. No way. AD is the one who blames everything bad that happened to him on MN, he certainly couldnt be blamed, hes a god (at least in his own mind). Everything going on in NO is their fault too not his.


You don't remember the post-game news conference where Moss sat there next to baseball caps with Reed and Carter written on them?

How about the time he left the game against the Redskins early?

Or the time he said he "played when he wanted to play"?

Look, I'm not saying Moss and AD are the same in terms of the things they've said and done relative to the team, but Moss did his fair share of things while in Minnesota to alienate plenty of fans and teammates alike. Heck, he did more when they briefly brought him back late in his career. What I am saying is that time has a way of papering over negative emotions, especially for great players. Even the Packers honored Brett Favre and that was messy on a level far exceeding either Moss or AD in Minnesota.

I think in another 5 years or so after AD retires you're going to see his name and number lofted into the Vikings Ring of Honor next to Moss's.

Author:  allday1991 [ Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:12 pm ]
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Purple Martin wrote:
Oh puhleeeeeeze stop with the bringing AP back talk. :sleep: He wasn't effective when he was here, and another injury or two and we'll be right back to a horrible OL or an AP on the sidelines. And you know that would happen, because we're the Vikings. Lets keep looking forward, not backward to a day that's never coming back.


Ap wasn't effective when he was a Viking? ...... :wallbang:

Author:  PurpleMustReign [ Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:16 pm ]
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allday1991 wrote:
Purple Martin wrote:
Oh puhleeeeeeze stop with the bringing AP back talk. [emoji99] He wasn't effective when he was here, and another injury or two and we'll be right back to a horrible OL or an AP on the sidelines. And you know that would happen, because we're the Vikings. Lets keep looking forward, not backward to a day that's never coming back.


Ap wasn't effective when he was a Viking? ...... :wallbang:
Let's sign Randy Moss!

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Author:  allday1991 [ Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:22 pm ]
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PurpleMustReign wrote:
allday1991 wrote:
Purple Martin wrote:
Oh puhleeeeeeze stop with the bringing AP back talk. [emoji99] He wasn't effective when he was here, and another injury or two and we'll be right back to a horrible OL or an AP on the sidelines. And you know that would happen, because we're the Vikings. Lets keep looking forward, not backward to a day that's never coming back.


Ap wasn't effective when he was a Viking? ...... :wallbang:
Let's sign Randy Moss!

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Author:  Purple Martin [ Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:32 pm ]
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allday1991 wrote:
Purple Martin wrote:
Oh puhleeeeeeze stop with the bringing AP back talk. :sleep: He wasn't effective when he was here, and another injury or two and we'll be right back to a horrible OL or an AP on the sidelines. And you know that would happen, because we're the Vikings. Lets keep looking forward, not backward to a day that's never coming back.


Ap wasn't effective when he was a Viking? ...... :wallbang:


Yes he was...past tense...but not in his last year here and he was becoming less and less effective.

Author:  J. Kapp 11 [ Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:18 pm ]
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allday1991 wrote:
Purple Martin wrote:
Oh puhleeeeeeze stop with the bringing AP back talk. :sleep: He wasn't effective when he was here, and another injury or two and we'll be right back to a horrible OL or an AP on the sidelines. And you know that would happen, because we're the Vikings. Lets keep looking forward, not backward to a day that's never coming back.


Ap wasn't effective when he was a Viking? ...... :wallbang:

He was exceptionally effective. One of the all-time greats.

However, that doesn't change the fact that he

a) Blamed the Vikings for the way they treated him after he beat his child, even though they paid his entire 2014 salary until the NFL suspended him, more than $10 million. He and his agent then turned that supposed mistreatement into a very lucrative contract extension.

b) Played 20 games in 3 seasons and earned nearly $40 million.

c) Was definitely losing his effectiveness last year.

Again, nothing but love for what AP brought us. He will be in the Ring of Honor and the HOF, without a doubt. But the last three seasons were not good, despite leading the league in rushing in '15. It leaves a bad taste in the mouth, even for a big AP fan like me.

Author:  IrishViking [ Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:39 am ]
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I don't have the patience to dig it up now but about a year ago Mothman and I got into it over AP and I did all the math on his stats.

Here are the rough numbers from what I can remember

He only started in 70% of the games he was vikings for.

He spent nearly 25% of his time with the vikings out for over 50% of the year or more

He hasn't posted a meaningful 100 yard game in over 16 games now (I say meaningful because technically he posted a 102 yard game against the Giants about 14 games ago but the game was "over" when he broke it)

The season he was the rushing leader after his suspension he had nearly 90 or more carries than the second place guy and beat him by less than 100 yards or something to that effect.


Peterson is cooked. All personal opinions aside, he hasn't been good for a very very long time.

Author:  Cliff [ Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:00 pm ]
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Quote:
He spent nearly 25% of his time with the vikings out for over 50% of the year or more


I understand 25% of that sentence 75% or less of the year.

Author:  Norv Zimmer [ Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:57 pm ]
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Mike Florio on Paul Allens radio show today said the Vikings would be very stupid not to inquire about getting Peterson.

Author:  S197 [ Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:01 pm ]
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What is his new contract paying him?

Author:  Norv Zimmer [ Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:57 pm ]
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3mil i think

Author:  cmoss84 [ Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:02 pm ]
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What do you guys think it would take to get him? 6th round pick?

Author:  PurpleKoolaid [ Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:39 pm ]
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Norv Zimmer wrote:
Mike Florio on Paul Allens radio show today said the Vikings would be very stupid not to inquire about getting Peterson.


No, please.

Author:  PurpleMustReign [ Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:59 pm ]
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I agree with Florio.

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Author:  Alaskan [ Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:56 pm ]
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I quit posting a while back, but this Adrian Peterson coming back to MN nonsense is so idiotic I had to post. He has no value to this offense, he is a one dimensional two down back. Part of the reason the WR's and the passing game have been so successful this year is because of Cooks value as a 3 down back. It keeps Defenses off balance when your not predictable. Murry/Mckinnon will work so much better than AP ever will. AP is not the same explosive player he was earlier in his career. He is in the perfect situation behind future HOFer Drew Brees to thrive....but he hasn't. He is third on the Depth chart in NO.

Author:  J. Kapp 11 [ Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:02 pm ]
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cmoss84 wrote:
What do you guys think it would take to get him? 6th round pick?

I think it would take Rick Spielman doing LSD.

Author:  PurpleMustReign [ Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:01 pm ]
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J. Kapp 11 wrote:
cmoss84 wrote:
What do you guys think it would take to get him? 6th round pick?

I think it would take Rick Spielman doing LSD.
How can we get some?

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Author:  Norv Zimmer [ Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:29 am ]
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PurpleMustReign wrote:
J. Kapp 11 wrote:
cmoss84 wrote:
What do you guys think it would take to get him? 6th round pick?

I think it would take Rick Spielman doing LSD.
How can we get some?

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I know a guy....

Author:  PurpleMustReign [ Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:51 pm ]
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Lol

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Author:  S197 [ Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:18 pm ]
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Norv Zimmer wrote:
PurpleMustReign wrote:
J. Kapp 11 wrote:
I think it would take Rick Spielman doing LSD.
How can we get some?

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I know a guy....


Jim's taking a hiatus

Author:  VikingLord [ Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:03 pm ]
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Cliff wrote:
Quote:
He spent nearly 25% of his time with the vikings out for over 50% of the year or more


I understand 25% of that sentence 75% or less of the year.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gob9NlqF7A#t=48

Author:  Raptorman [ Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:14 pm ]
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PurpleMustReign wrote:
Let's sign Randy Moss!


Randy today is still probably better than 60% of the WR's currently playing in the NFL.

Author:  dkoby [ Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:01 pm ]
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J. Kapp 11 wrote:
allday1991 wrote:
Purple Martin wrote:
Oh puhleeeeeeze stop with the bringing AP back talk. :sleep: He wasn't effective when he was here, and another injury or two and we'll be right back to a horrible OL or an AP on the sidelines. And you know that would happen, because we're the Vikings. Lets keep looking forward, not backward to a day that's never coming back.


Ap wasn't effective when he was a Viking? ...... :wallbang:

He was exceptionally effective. One of the all-time greats.

However, that doesn't change the fact that he

a) Blamed the Vikings for the way they treated him after he beat his child, even though they paid his entire 2014 salary until the NFL suspended him, more than $10 million. He and his agent then turned that supposed mistreatement into a very lucrative contract extension.

b) Played 20 games in 3 seasons and earned nearly $40 million.

c) Was definitely losing his effectiveness last year.

Again, nothing but love for what AP brought us. He will be in the Ring of Honor and the HOF, without a doubt. But the last three seasons were not good, despite leading the league in rushing in '15. It leaves a bad taste in the mouth, even for a big AP fan like me.


This this this!!!

Yeah, let’s trade away draft picks for a back that averages 3 yards a carry and causes a distraction on the sidelines during a national televised game.

Author:  dead_poet [ Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:07 am ]
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Saints just traded AD to Arizona.

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