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Author:  Texas Vike [ Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:05 am ]
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Pondering Her Percy wrote:
Blair Walsh is such a bum. Any field goal he's made he's either pointed or looked over at the Vikings bench. Congrats dude, you're hitting preseason field goals. Too bad you can't hit them when they count. But he has the balls to taunt our sideline? That's laughable


I with they had shown Zimmer's face when Walsh did that.


THE GOOD: Dalvin Cook (several nice runs), Diggs (looked ready for the season), Jaleel Johnson (2nd solid game, he was a constant menace), Bucky Hodges (back to back long catches, the 2nd a nice TD), overall improved OL play across the board, no major injuries!

THE BAD: Heineke (looked even worse this week), Refs spot and review on the Floyd Catch (end of half, I believe).

THE UGLY: RUN D, especially bc of over pursuit, Special Teams ( Adam's fumble made me miss Cordarelle so much),

Author:  PurpleMustReign [ Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:16 am ]
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Special teams are bad so far out side of the two kickers. The punters have been ok. I hate Paul Allen as the announcer.
The OL looked good yesterday. That was a nice change. Did Clemmings play at all?

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Author:  dead_poet [ Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:26 am ]
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Good: Elflein, Hill, Easton and O-line in general (0 sacks allowed, 1 hurry, Dalvin averaged 5.7 YPC vs. one of the best defenses and defensive lines), Diggs, Kendrick's, J. Johnson (I think he should start next week), Bower, Hunter (stud), Bucky as a receiver, Gedeon as a run-defender, kickers

Bad: Bradford (some ill-advised passes and missed open guys), Newman, Gedeon as a pass-defender, special teams (Adams, McKinnon, Coley). We're going to take a significant step back in the return game.

Ugly: Mac Alexander and our entire corner depth. Waynes better be back soon. Run defense. Get Tom Johnson out of there. He's a nickel rusher only.

Author:  VikingPaul73 [ Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:31 am ]
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Pondering Her Percy wrote:
Blair Walsh is such a bum. Any field goal he's made he's either pointed or looked over at the Vikings bench. Congrats dude, you're hitting preseason field goals. Too bad you can't hit them when they count. But he has the balls to taunt our sideline? That's laughable



And it's not like the Vikings did anything vindictive, trashed him publicly, or anything unprofessional whatsoever

They gave him more than enough chances, treated him more than fairly, and simply cut him after 2 years of shaky performances and blown games. People get cut all the time in the NFL

Just pathetic and classless by Walsh

Author:  Texas Vike [ Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:39 am ]
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VikingPaul73 wrote:
Pondering Her Percy wrote:
Blair Walsh is such a bum. Any field goal he's made he's either pointed or looked over at the Vikings bench. Congrats dude, you're hitting preseason field goals. Too bad you can't hit them when they count. But he has the balls to taunt our sideline? That's laughable



And it's not like the Vikings did anything vindictive, trashed him publicly, or anything unprofessional whatsoever

They gave him more than enough chances, treated him more than fairly, and simply cut him after 2 years of shaky performances and blown games. People get cut all the time in the NFL

Just pathetic and classless by Walsh



He's a chippy guy and obviously he felt slighted by the Vikings. We can't be sure what all happened between him and the organization, but judging by how he has been in the past... I get the sense that he's a guy who looks for ways to get motivated and is easily offended. Whatever. He'll choke for them some day when it matters. I'd rather have a kicker who is just flatline. No need for emotional paroxysm with that position. :lol:

Author:  VikingPaul73 [ Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:55 am ]
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Excellent point !!!! Maybe that overly emotional side of his personality is the root cause of his failings as a K!!!

Author:  720pete [ Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:52 am ]
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Blair Walsh is a straight up turd. I think i hate the Seahawks almost as much as I hate any other team in the NFL.

Author:  PurpleKoolaid [ Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:53 am ]
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Not impressed by Sam, preseason or not, this year.

Our secondary looks bad, Waynes needs to play in these games, he and Rhodes are going to be the primary corners. We need to find someone to play slot. And maybe someone to stop the run.

Author:  halfgiz [ Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:28 pm ]
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Some good things last night...
Hodges With those two grabs for 55 yards, Hodges was the #Vikings' second-leading receiver on the night.

Jaleel Johnson again. He's had a heck of a night so far.

Tashawn Bower is just destroying the guy across from him. Bower out there chasing guys down in coverage, too.

David Morgan doesn't need speed he just gets yards - nice 10 yard catch.

And backup OL Sirles moves ahead of Treadwell in preseason receiving yards... :whistle:

The Bad...
#1 D gave up 4.6 yards per carry and almost 200 yds passing

Just three points from first-team offense but at least the line has looked better. And consider Reiff and Boone both out.

Jerick McKinnon's first carry of the preseason does not go well. Nailed in backfield for loss of 6.

I'm not sure what Edmond Robinson was doing, but on some plays ... He looked like he was lost his man.

Mack was getting turned around a lot last night. Really got smoked bad on the one play.

Vikings played 10 offensive linemen in Seattle, but third-year OL T.J. Clemmings wasn't one of them.
He is either dinged or he could be gone.

Author:  Texas Vike [ Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:47 pm ]
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Looks like Blair Walsh was responding to some taunting from his ex-teammates:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2038 ... aunted-him

Author:  Mothman [ Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:31 pm ]
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Texas Vike wrote:
Looks like Blair Walsh was responding to some taunting from his ex-teammates:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2038 ... aunted-him



His reaction is understandable when viewed in that light.

I've only seen about 1.5 quarters of the game so far. The starting OL looked good in the stretch, particularly when they started opening good running lanes for Cook. Cook has a nice burst through the hole but in these first two games, it looks to me like the first tackler brings him down more often than not. Maybe that's a misperception but I hope he'll be able to get the tough yards when necessary.

It's hard to get a read on the team at this time of year. They put together a nice opening drive only to self-destruct themselves into settling for a FG at the end of it. I hope they can break that particular habit and finish a lot more drives with TDs this season.

Author:  dead_poet [ Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:07 pm ]
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Mothman wrote:
Texas Vike wrote:
Looks like Blair Walsh was responding to some taunting from his ex-teammates:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2038 ... aunted-him



His reaction is understandable when viewed in that light.

I've only seen about 1.5 quarters of the game so far. The starting OL looked good in the stretch, particularly when they started opening good running lanes for Cook. Cook has a nice burst through the hole but in these first two games, it looks to me like the first tackler brings him down more often than not. Maybe that's a misperception but I hope he'll be able to get the tough yards when necessary.

It's hard to get a read on the team at this time of year. They out together a nice opening drive only to self-destruct themselves into settling for a FG at the end of it. I hope they can break that particular habit and finish a lot more drives with TDs this season.


Have to gain yards on first down. I don't have the stats in front of me but I'd wager we were among the worst in the league on first down last year, leading to a ridiculous number of third and long situations. All starts up front.

I like how quick Cook gets downhill. Wish he could juke or step over a couple of the ankle tackles but he seems to be a step away from big chunk gains. They'll come. Good burst through the hole.

Blair could've been having fun or responding to his former teammates. I don't care about it at all.

Author:  mosscarter [ Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:19 pm ]
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bradford had all the time in the world to throw last night and truthfully i wasn't all that impressed. the problem with floyd is we won't have him until week 5; if we can't find ways to score td's we could very well start the season 0-2 after playing the saints and then steelers on the road. i think pittsburgh averaged nearly 30 points a game last year. we simply don't score points and haven't for years.

Author:  Mothman [ Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:56 pm ]
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dead_poet wrote:
Have to gain yards on first down. I don't have the stats in front of me but I'd wager we were among the worst in the league on first down last year, leading to a ridiculous number of third and long situations. All starts up front.

I like how quick Cook gets downhill. Wish he could juke or step over a couple of the ankle tackles but he seems to be a step away from big chunk gains. They'll come. Good burst through the hole.

Blair could've been having fun or responding to his former teammates. I don't care about it at all.


I don't either.

You're right that they need to do better on first down. It would set them up much better for success. They were 23rd in the league in yards per first down attempt last season.

They also need to avoid penalties in the red zone. I don't know where they've been ranked in that department over the last few years but it seems like they've had a tendency to turn good situations (ie: red zone possessions) into bad (long yardage situations).

I'm encouraged by the OL performance on Friday. They were obviously going against good defensive talent.

Author:  J. Kapp 11 [ Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:43 pm ]
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Mothman wrote:
Texas Vike wrote:
Looks like Blair Walsh was responding to some taunting from his ex-teammates:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2038 ... aunted-him



His reaction is understandable when viewed in that light.

I've only seen about 1.5 quarters of the game so far. The starting OL looked good in the stretch, particularly when they started opening good running lanes for Cook. Cook has a nice burst through the hole but in these first two games, it looks to me like the first tackler brings him down more often than not. Maybe that's a misperception but I hope he'll be able to get the tough yards when necessary.

It's hard to get a read on the team at this time of year. They put together a nice opening drive only to self-destruct themselves into settling for a FG at the end of it. I hope they can break that particular habit and finish a lot more drives with TDs this season.

I don't see Cook breaking tackles so far, but I've seen him make people miss, especially against Seattle. I recall Richard Sherman getting tackling a ghost on one run. I've also seen him move the pile a couple of times these first two games. What encouraged me was that he seemed to find his legs and his rhythm this week.

The offense is, on one hand, encouraging. They moved the ball well against a talented defense last night. On the other hand, the area that NEEDS to improve, red-zone offense, apparently has not. It's one thing to get stopped by a good defense, but two penalties on the same red-zone possession is disappointing in a huge way. Especially true since Zimmer & Co. have been emphasizing it. Don't know what has to happen to improve here, but we've got two weeks, so let's see what comes.

Author:  PacificNorseWest [ Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:15 pm ]
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Good: The run game was better, the offense moved the ball and Hunter destroyed Germain Ifedi.

Bad: The defense was gashed, the Vikings redzone offense is still trash and #### Blair Walsh.



I actually like Blair, the person, but he was feeling himself waaay too much. :lol: We'll see how it goes when he has pressure on him in a meaningful game again. Seattle, feel our pain!

Author:  jackal [ Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:57 pm ]
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I have to admit I want to see tank in a playoff
game, mostly because I hate the Seahawks.

Author:  losperros [ Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:41 am ]
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I'll admit I put almost no weight in what I see during preseason. Coaches are looking at different players and situations, which can easily affect how the team plays.

Besides, how many times have we seen a team win its preseason games and bomb during the regular season? And vice versa. It happens frequently.

My biggest fear during preseason are injuries and their impact on the team during regular season.

The most fun I have during preseason games is watching the younger guys battling for starting and/or backup positions. I always find myself rooting for the rookies the Vikings draft to look impressive.

Author:  Texas Vike [ Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:08 pm ]
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losperros wrote:
I'll admit I put almost no weight in what I see during preseason. Coaches are looking at different players and situations, which can easily affect how the team plays.

Besides, how many times have we seen a team win its preseason games and bomb during the regular season? And vice versa. It happens frequently.

My biggest fear during preseason are injuries and their impact on the team during regular season.

The most fun I have during preseason games is watching the younger guys battling for starting and/or backup positions. I always find myself rooting for the rookies the Vikings draft to look impressive.


Completely agree regarding injuries and special attention on the rookies. I've enjoyed watching Jaleel Johnson, in particular. Cook, too. It was nice to see him reel off a few solid runs in a row on Friday. Heck, I even got excited for Bucky Hodges in the 4th quarter! :lol:

I'm ready for the games to count. I am a bit nervous to face New Orleans the first game, though. Especially AD with how poor our run D has looked.

Author:  J. Kapp 11 [ Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:41 pm ]
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losperros wrote:
I'll admit I put almost no weight in what I see during preseason. Coaches are looking at different players and situations, which can easily affect how the team plays.

Besides, how many times have we seen a team win its preseason games and bomb during the regular season? And vice versa. It happens frequently.

My biggest fear during preseason are injuries and their impact on the team during regular season.

The most fun I have during preseason games is watching the younger guys battling for starting and/or backup positions. I always find myself rooting for the rookies the Vikings draft to look impressive.

Case in point ... Mike Zimmer is 12-2 in the preseason.

I really like Mike Zimmer and want more than anything for him to succeed. But 12-2 in preseason with 26-22 in the regular season (which isn't terrible, but isn't moving significantly forward) sort of proves your statement.

Author:  720pete [ Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:43 pm ]
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2008 Lions went 4-0 in the preseason only to go 0-16 in the regular season.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_De ... ons_season
If we can lose the next two games we could be lining up for a 16-0 season.

Author:  IrishViking [ Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:33 pm ]
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I am really hoping Cook develops his triple cut stutter step on first and second. I barely recognized he was playing RB.


:lol:

I'll try to limit the jokes but these will never stop. Sorry everyone.

Author:  S197 [ Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:08 pm ]
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720pete wrote:
2008 Lions went 4-0 in the preseason only to go 0-16 in the regular season.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_De ... ons_season
If we can lose the next two games we could be lining up for a 16-0 season.


Too late, we already beat the Bills.

Author:  dead_poet [ Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:31 pm ]
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Upon Further Review: Vikes/Seahawks

http://www.mnvikingscorner.com/2017/08/ ... ref=tw&m=1

Quote:
Center Pat Elflein displayed the mean streak we saw on tape as a run blocker and pass protector. He is a fantastic blocker in the second level and drives through defenders until the whistle. In the clip below, Elflein barrels the defensive tackle out of the play and Dalvin Cook gets small at the line of scrimmage to push forward through defenders. Cook is very elusive and picks up yards after contact because of his vision/patience and strong cutbacks. He was very tough to bring down in this game and nearly knocked off several long runs.

Author:  J. Kapp 11 [ Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:32 pm ]
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dead_poet wrote:
Upon Further Review: Vikes/Seahawks

http://www.mnvikingscorner.com/2017/08/ ... ref=tw&m=1

Quote:
Center Pat Elflein displayed the mean streak we saw on tape as a run blocker and pass protector. He is a fantastic blocker in the second level and drives through defenders until the whistle. In the clip below, Elflein barrels the defensive tackle out of the play and Dalvin Cook gets small at the line of scrimmage to push forward through defenders. Cook is very elusive and picks up yards after contact because of his vision/patience and strong cutbacks. He was very tough to bring down in this game and nearly knocked off several long runs.

Tell you what I also like about Cook. Even though he played well against Seattle, he said he was upset at himself that he didn't make the safeties miss. I mean, we're talking about Kam Chancellor and Earl Thomas here.

I think we're going to see some really good things from this kid.

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