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Re: 2017 Training Camp Updates

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Post by mansquatch » Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:30 am

The run blocking news is encouraging. That was an area of tremendous weakness last season. The pass protection hasn't been as encouraging, but if they can get their YPC back up to a respective level from last year's terrible performance that will be a significant step forward on offense. It will also take pressure off the defense. A positive sign.

What is up with Trae Waynes? It feels like the guy is literally inches from being great.
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Post by mansquatch » Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:58 am

To provide some context to what the rushing could mean for the team:

In 2016 we had 380 attempts with a league worst 3.2 YPC.

An Average Offense in the NFL was closer to 409 carries with 4.2 YPC.

If we get to even average that is ~500 more yards of rushing or 31.25 yards per game. That is one more drive getting tinot the opponent's territory, and if you average over each drive it is probably another scoring opportunity at least. It will also translate to more TOP and probably for PF as well as helping win the field position battle for our defense.

Not as glamorous as passing stats by any means, but improving in this area will help that part of the offense as well. Encouraging news from the OL for a change. Hopefully they can keep it up and perform on Sundays.
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Re: 2017 Training Camp Updates

Post by dead_poet » Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:37 am

Reiff participating in walkthrough this morning.
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mansquatch wrote:What is up with Trae Waynes? It feels like the guy is literally inches from being great.
Sounds like he's been in position a lot (positive step) but still lacks in ability or awareness of getting his head around. Probably one of the harder things to manage. Hopefully it'll come.
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Post by PacificNorseWest » Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:25 pm

Waynes is probably one of those players where we're going to have take the good with the bad. Lot's of PI's, lots of big plays.

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The guys was fantastic physical talent. He can run with anybody. He just needs to learn to finish.

Reiff practicing is probably the best news of the camp so far.
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Re: 2017 Training Camp Updates

Post by S197 » Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:51 pm

I haven't heard very many negative things about Waynes coming out of camp. Most of it seems to be good coverage but Bradford fitting it in tight windows.

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Robison, Brothers and Treadwell not practicing today.
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Post by PurpleMustReign » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:03 pm

mansquatch wrote:The guys was fantastic physical talent. He can run with anybody. He just needs to learn to finish.

Reiff practicing is probably the best news of the camp so far.
At least he is always around the ball rather than leaving his man open by 7 yards.

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Post by dead_poet » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:36 pm

Not able to make it to camp? These bloggers were there a couple of days and have some fun conversations, mostly about the offense. If you have the time, give them a listen.

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Re: 2017 Training Camp Updates

Post by dead_poet » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:39 pm

Day 14 Notebook

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Pass protection holds up better
This was one of the better days for the offensive line. They held up well in pass protection and there were less reps where the pocket collapsed. Right tackle Mike Remmers was winning more and left tackle Rashod Hill rebounded after a rough Monday. He won a rep against both Everson Griffen and Danielle Hunter during 1-on-1 work. He also handled them well in the team drills, providing the quarterbacks with more time to throw. There were less throws down the field, which also helped the amount of time blocks were held. Nonetheless, it was encouraging to see the tackle spots hold up well during 1-on-1 sessions, too. Leaving training camp, the one area everyone can feel better about is the run blocking. Rashod Hill and Mike Remmers have added so much value to this area of the offensive line. In addition, right guard Joe Berger had one of his best days. He won twice against defensive tackle Tom Johnson in 1-on-1 drills and opened a gaping hole for a Dalvin Cook run between the tackles. He has been up-and-down during camp, but performed better down the stretch.
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Re: 2017 Training Camp Updates

Post by JDLon » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:39 am

For me I think the chances of improving against last season will largely come down to this:
Cornerback Mackensie Alexander struggled to cover corner routes on Tuesday. He lost by a step to Isaac Fruetche and was unable to get his hands into the passing lane to break up a throw intended for wide receiver Jarius Wright. Alexander needs more reps to gain experience, so the preseason will be huge for him.
With Rhodes on one side Waynes and Alexander will see a lot of action anyway. Was it Rodgers who exposed Alexander as soon as he came on last season? Cap was solid in the slot, Alexander will need to have improved a lot from last year just to deliver that same standard.

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Post by autobon7 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:14 am

JDLon wrote:For me I think the chances of improving against last season will largely come down to this:
With Rhodes on one side Waynes and Alexander will see a lot of action anyway. Was it Rodgers who exposed Alexander as soon as he came on last season? Cap was solid in the slot, Alexander will need to have improved a lot from last year just to deliver that same standard.
This concerns me the most.....hope he gets the over the top help he may need until he settles in.

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Re: 2017 Training Camp Updates

Post by mansquatch » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:23 am

I would keep in mind that Terrence Newman is still on the team, even if we haven't heard his name much in camp. Nickel or Slot CB is a question, but we are not without answers.

The biggest question for the team is if and how much the Offensive Line plan can improve. We are seeing that if provided an opportunity, our skill positions can make plays.

Also, I believe the performance of the Offense will be the single biggest contributor to improvement by the defense.
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