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Minnesotan native Michael Floyd potentially may ink a 1year deal with the Vikes
http://thevikingage.com/2017/05/03/viki ... minnesota/


Not bad, Wright at 27 and Thielen at 26 are the oldest Viking WR, so we could use a little veteran pressance. Great downfield blocker and I think still has some game as a WR waiting to be tapped into if he can keep his head on straight off field.


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Minnesotan native Michael Floyd potentially may ink a 1year deal with the Vikes
http://thevikingage.com/2017/05/03/viki ... minnesota/


Not bad, Wright at 27 and Thielen at 26 are the oldest Viking WR, so we could use a little veteran pressance. Great downfield blocker and I think still has some game as a WR waiting to be tapped into if he can keep his head on straight off field.


Never been a Floyd fan. Also, just to give you a heads up from fan to fan, thevikingage.com is a highly unreliable website. The rumors they stir up on there are hardly ever legit or matter to anything. Anytime I see an article they post, I dont even read it anymore because it usually comes with no validity

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Post Re: Michael Floyd in the 'Cards' for the Vikings?
This would make little sense to me. Outside of some legitimate stud becoming available, I see no reason to go after any FA WR at this point. LB and S?...sure, but not WR.


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Post Re: Michael Floyd in the 'Cards' for the Vikings?
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This would make little sense to me. Outside of some legitimate stud becoming available, I see no reason to go after any FA WR at this point. LB and S?...sure, but not WR.


Based on their reported interest in Alshon Jeffery in free agency and these rumors about Floyd, the Vikes may feel they're in need of a downfield threat.


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This would make little sense to me. Outside of some legitimate stud becoming available, I see no reason to go after any FA WR at this point. LB and S?...sure, but not WR.


Agreed. We have Diggs, Thielen, Treadwell, Wright, Smith, Coley and Mobo. Those top 4 are pretty solid and we need to give Treadwell his opportunity. Plus we have guys like Smith and Coley that have a lot of potential

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Nunin wrote:
This would make little sense to me. Outside of some legitimate stud becoming available, I see no reason to go after any FA WR at this point. LB and S?...sure, but not WR.


Agreed. We have Diggs, Thielen, Treadwell, Wright, Smith, Coley and Mobo. Those top 4 are pretty solid and we need to give Treadwell his opportunity. Plus we have guys like Smith and Coley that have a lot of potential



You are seriously listing "Mobo" as a reason why we don't need to look at FAs?

I'd love for that guy to make me eat my words, but that is one heck of a long shot. I can't blame the FO for looking at other options.


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Post Re: Michael Floyd in the 'Cards' for the Vikings?
I'm all for seeing Treadwell out there. I'm not convinced he's a deep threat though.
I thought Jeffery was more of a possesion/redzone type? maybe i'm wrong there....but he is the type of caliber I'd consider.
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I think Diggs/Wright can stretch the field. I'm stunned at how Wright fell out of favor. That guy is fast.
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They have a stud in Diggs, a solid do everything guy in Theilen, lots of money invested in Wright and a high draft pick in Treadwell...plus a recent history of driving down the value of FA WRs.
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I'd take Patterson over Floyd on most days. I guess they could find a more explosive guy than Theilen...but my point is that they would do well just to get the current crop into a flow with Bradford/Shurmur.
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I just find the specific focus on RB/WR to be a bit unrealistic. And by that I mean that in the past 20 years this franchise has fielded one of the top 2 receivers of all time and a top5 RB for the prime of their careers and never made it to a superbowl with either of them due to systemic flaws.
Conversely, Tom Brady as one example, has played 2 seasons with a guy like that in Moss and also has never, nor will he ever, play a snap with the Pats career leader in yds rushing or receiving..
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If your system is good guys will make plays. Just a couple years ago the talk here was about how the Vikes had, arguably, the fastest WR corp in the league.....it has produced little so far.
My theory is that it's due to lack of contin
uity of scheme as well as having a dumpster fire for o-line, not cause the WRs are inept.
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Giving up what they did to draft CP then letting him walk for nothing just when it looked like, at least to me, that he was going to become a serious weapon is it in a nutshell for me.
The issue has been QB and line all a long.
I guess it doesn't hurt to look at guy like Floyd....but IMO a WR is not what this offense lacks...
Fielding above average skill players in lieu of having a stable scheme/line/QB play goes mostly nowhere. I've seen that movie for awhile now.
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Post Re: Michael Floyd in the 'Cards' for the Vikings?
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I'm all for seeing Treadwell out there. I'm not convinced he's a deep threat though.
I thought Jeffery was more of a possesion/redzone type? maybe i'm wrong there....but he is the type of caliber I'd consider.
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I think Diggs/Wright can stretch the field. I'm stunned at how Wright fell out of favor. That guy is fast.
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They have a stud in Diggs, a solid do everything guy in Theilen, lots of money invested in Wright and a high draft pick in Treadwell...plus a recent history of driving down the value of FA WRs.
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I'd take Patterson over Floyd on most days. I guess they could find a more explosive guy than Theilen...but my point is that they would do well just to get the current crop into a flow with Bradford/Shurmur.
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I just find the specific focus on RB/WR to be a bit unrealistic. And by that I mean that in the past 20 years this franchise has fielded one of the top 2 receivers of all time and a top5 RB for the prime of their careers and never made it to a superbowl with either of them due to systemic flaws.
Conversely, Tom Brady as one example, has played 2 seasons with a guy like that in Moss and also has never, nor will he ever, play a snap with the Pats career leader in yds rushing or receiving..
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If your system is good guys will make plays. Just a couple years ago the talk here was about how the Vikes had, arguably, the fastest WR corp in the league.....it has produced little so far.
My theory is that it's due to lack of contin
uity of scheme as well as having a dumpster fire for o-line, not cause the WRs are inept.
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Giving up what they did to draft CP then letting him walk for nothing just when it looked like, at least to me, that he was going to become a serious weapon is it in a nutshell for me.
The issue has been QB and line all a long.
I guess it doesn't hurt to look at guy like Floyd....but IMO a WR is not what this offense lacks...
Fielding above average skill players in lieu of having a stable scheme/line/QB play goes mostly nowhere. I've seen that movie for awhile now.
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bit of a rant...sorry


Is $3M a lot for Wright?

I'm satisfied with our WRs. We need the O-line to play to help the passing game. The horses are there.

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Post Re: Michael Floyd in the 'Cards' for the Vikings?
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Pondering Her Percy wrote:
Nunin wrote:
This would make little sense to me. Outside of some legitimate stud becoming available, I see no reason to go after any FA WR at this point. LB and S?...sure, but not WR.


Agreed. We have Diggs, Thielen, Treadwell, Wright, Smith, Coley and Mobo. Those top 4 are pretty solid and we need to give Treadwell his opportunity. Plus we have guys like Smith and Coley that have a lot of potential



You are seriously listing "Mobo" as a reason why we don't need to look at FAs?

I'd love for that guy to make me eat my words, but that is one heck of a long shot. I can't blame the FO for looking at other options.


I didnt mean it like that. I was just putting down our WRs, hence why I had him listed last

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Post Re: Michael Floyd in the 'Cards' for the Vikings?
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I think it's a lot for anyone to be a backup who rarely sees the field. But realistically I think Wright has earned that salary based on how he's played...just so long as he keeps getting snaps.
Maybe he was injured or something early last year? I really don't remember...but I agree that the WR corp is decent looking and diverse group.


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Post Re: Michael Floyd in the 'Cards' for the Vikings?
From Sid Hartman's article on DT Jones' transition from the Packers in the strib today, under jottings, I found this interesting nugget, which seems applicable here:

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According to Zimmer, people who wrote off wide receiver Laquon Treadwell will find the Vikings’ top draft choice of a year ago is really standing out in offseason workouts and will be counted on to be a lot better player than he was last season.


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Post Re: Michael Floyd in the 'Cards' for the Vikings?
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From Sid Hartman's article on DT Jones' transition from the Packers in the strib today, under jottings, I found this interesting nugget, which seems applicable here:

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According to Zimmer, people who wrote off wide receiver Laquon Treadwell will find the Vikings’ top draft choice of a year ago is really standing out in offseason workouts and will be counted on to be a lot better player than he was last season.


Great to hear. Thanks. I'm eager to see him in action. I saw a tweet a couple weeks ago where a fan happened to be on his flight and his reading material was the playbook. Not a huge thing, but noteworthy on some level.

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Post Re: Michael Floyd in the 'Cards' for the Vikings?
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Texas Vike wrote:
From Sid Hartman's article on DT Jones' transition from the Packers in the strib today, under jottings, I found this interesting nugget, which seems applicable here:

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According to Zimmer, people who wrote off wide receiver Laquon Treadwell will find the Vikings’ top draft choice of a year ago is really standing out in offseason workouts and will be counted on to be a lot better player than he was last season.


Great to hear. Thanks. I'm eager to see him in action. I saw a tweet a couple weeks ago where a fan happened to be on his flight and his reading material was the playbook. Not a huge thing, but noteworthy on some level.


I think it is a pretty huge thing......dude could have been doing/reading anything. Shows his commitment and dedication so I'm pretty stoked to hear that.


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From Sid Hartman's article on DT Jones' transition from the Packers in the strib today, under jottings, I found this interesting nugget, which seems applicable here:

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According to Zimmer, people who wrote off wide receiver Laquon Treadwell will find the Vikings’ top draft choice of a year ago is really standing out in offseason workouts and will be counted on to be a lot better player than he was last season.

This what we should have been hearing last year.
Michael Floyd, no thanks.

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Post Re: Michael Floyd in the 'Cards' for the Vikings?
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Texas Vike wrote:
From Sid Hartman's article on DT Jones' transition from the Packers in the strib today, under jottings, I found this interesting nugget, which seems applicable here:

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According to Zimmer, people who wrote off wide receiver Laquon Treadwell will find the Vikings’ top draft choice of a year ago is really standing out in offseason workouts and will be counted on to be a lot better player than he was last season.

This what we should have been hearing last year.
Michael Floyd, no thanks.



It's also the sort of thing we repeatedly heard Zimmer say about Patterson during the offseason(s) and then when the actual games rolled around, they'd keep him on the bench most of the time. After 3 years, I'm inclined to pay less attention to what Zimmer says about this sort of thing and more to what he does. Hopefully, Treadwell will be impressive from now through December and into the postseason. He'd better be "a lot better player than he was last season" because last season he gave the Vikes zilch. #notbitterjustdisappointed


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Post Re: Michael Floyd in the 'Cards' for the Vikings?
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CbusVikesFan wrote:
From Sid Hartman's article on DT Jones' transition from the Packers in the strib today, under jottings, I found this interesting nugget, which seems applicable here:

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According to Zimmer, people who wrote off wide receiver Laquon Treadwell will find the Vikings’ top draft choice of a year ago is really standing out in offseason workouts and will be counted on to be a lot better player than he was last season.

This what we should have been hearing last year.
Michael Floyd, no thanks.


It's also the sort of thing we repeatedly heard Zimmer say about Patterson during the offseason(s) and then when the actual games rolled around, they'd keep him on the bench most of the time. After 3 years, I'm inclined to pay less attention to what Zimmer says about this sort of thing and more to what he does. Hopefully, Treadwell will be impressive from now through December and into the postseason. He'd better be "a lot better player than he was last season" because last season he gave the Vikes zilch. #notbitterjustdisappointed


Or any head coach/GM. We heard the same damn thing about Williamson. :wallbang:

Floyd was never the #1 WR on that team. And still had a better season than any WR on this roster. Do you want to give credit to the QBs and OLs they've had, the others receivers? Or claim he's older than every WR on this roster? Fine. But please don't pretend he's a scrub we shouldn't have any interest in. Every receiver currently on this roster will likely be labeled the same in a few years...


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Post Re: Michael Floyd in the 'Cards' for the Vikings?
If the deal is an incentive laden, prove it deal they can dump quickly I think it would be worth bringing him to camp.


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Post Re: Michael Floyd in the 'Cards' for the Vikings?
I mentioned this over in the general FA Discussion. But, I'd much rather grab Boldin for a year.
-should be functional in the red-zone.
-high character guy that can show all the rookies what it takes to be a long-time pro.
-has some insight on the Lions.
-very competitive.

Whereas Floyd:
-chronic underachiever, even under the tutelage of Fitzgerald.
-went from being high-ish draft pick to an unwanted free agent.
-he seems like an OK human, but he's made some pretty bad off the field choices.
-he would only create an obstacle for Treadwell to get some game reps.

On the other hand, he has first-round talent and would likely be playing on a one-year 'prove it' deal. That might be able to light a fire under him.

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Post Re: Michael Floyd in the 'Cards' for the Vikings?
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I mentioned this over in the general FA Discussion. But, I'd much rather grab Boldin for a year.
-should be functional in the red-zone.
-high character guy that can show all the rookies what it takes to be a long-time pro.
-has some insight on the Lions.
-very competitive.

Whereas Floyd:
-chronic underachiever, even under the tutelage of Fitzgerald.
-went from being high-ish draft pick to an unwanted free agent.
-he seems like an OK human, but he's made some pretty bad off the field choices.
-he would only create an obstacle for Treadwell to get some game reps.

On the other hand, he has first-round talent and would likely be playing on a one-year 'prove it' deal. That might be able to light a fire under him.


Color me in for Boldin > Floyd too. MUCH better move.


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Post Re: Michael Floyd in the 'Cards' for the Vikings?
Bradford is in the habit of bringing his receivers to Oklahoma for a week in the summer to workout on pass routes at the OU facilities. I think this could help Treadwell out a lot with developing a rapport with Sam in route running. Would love to see him break out this year...sometimes the development from year one to two can be phenomenol.


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Bradford is in the habit of bringing his receivers to Oklahoma for a week in the summer to workout on pass routes at the OU facilities. I think this could help Treadwell out a lot with developing a rapport with Sam in route running. Would love to see him break out this year...sometimes the development from year one to two can be phenomenol.


Would love to see that myself. Where abouts in MO are you located? I'm in Alton, IL & work in Maryland Heights, MO


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Bradford is in the habit of bringing his receivers to Oklahoma for a week in the summer to workout on pass routes at the OU facilities. I think this could help Treadwell out a lot with developing a rapport with Sam in route running. Would love to see him break out this year...sometimes the development from year one to two can be phenomenol.

Back to the Boldin point; Treadwell projects very similar to a young Boldin. Big bodies with a large catch radius, but not burners. Boldin would he perfect to show him the subtleties of the position and how to properly study the opposition.

We should really get Sam on a contract now. A full off season is going to drastically increase his comfort and production. We could see his price tag go up $5/$6 million per year if he has a really good season.

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5thWave wrote:
Bradford is in the habit of bringing his receivers to Oklahoma for a week in the summer to workout on pass routes at the OU facilities. I think this could help Treadwell out a lot with developing a rapport with Sam in route running. Would love to see him break out this year...sometimes the development from year one to two can be phenomenol.

Back to the Boldin point; Treadwell projects very similar to a young Boldin. Big bodies with a large catch radius, but not burners. Boldin would he perfect to show him the subtleties of the position and how to properly study the opposition.

We should really get Sam on a contract now. A full off season is going to drastically increase his comfort and production. We could see his price tag go up $5/$6 million per year if he has a really good season.


I agree we should wrap up SB sooner than later. Only concern would be him staying healthy.....but as we found out with TB....things can happen to anyone. Just don't want to be in the market for a QB after this season.


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SidestreamFB Pete wrote:
5thWave wrote:
Bradford is in the habit of bringing his receivers to Oklahoma for a week in the summer to workout on pass routes at the OU facilities. I think this could help Treadwell out a lot with developing a rapport with Sam in route running. Would love to see him break out this year...sometimes the development from year one to two can be phenomenol.

Back to the Boldin point; Treadwell projects very similar to a young Boldin. Big bodies with a large catch radius, but not burners. Boldin would he perfect to show him the subtleties of the position and how to properly study the opposition.

We should really get Sam on a contract now. A full off season is going to drastically increase his comfort and production. We could see his price tag go up $5/$6 million per year if he has a really good season.


I agree we should wrap up SB sooner than later. Only concern would be him staying healthy.....but as we found out with TB....things can happen to anyone. Just don't want to be in the market for a QB after this season.


The front office is normally very preemptive in locking up players early, before their value rises too much. The difference is they have some child-like hope in Teddy coming back 100% after being out of football for two years. They need to bite the bullet on a Bradford contract now and IF, by some miracle, Teddy is functional they can always trade Bradford if he is on a reasonable contract. There's never a shortage of QB hungry teams.

Their really rolling the dice on next off season for no reason.

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Post Re: Michael Floyd in the 'Cards' for the Vikings?
I'm still a little annoyed we didn't go harder after Marshall when he was released. This team could have used a 50 catch 700 yard receiver and that was a down year for him. He'll retire in a year or two but he brings the production and experience the receiver corps could have used. Boldin could fill a similar void.


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I'm still a little annoyed we didn't go harder after Marshall when he was released. This team could have used a 50 catch 700 yard receiver and that was a down year for him. He'll retire in a year or two but he brings the production and experience the receiver corps could have used. Boldin could fill a similar void.

Marshall would have been great, tough pull though. He wanted to be near the broadcasting studio for his TV gig.

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Looks like the Vikes signed Floyd. Hopefully he can turn it around on and off the field.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ael-floyd/


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Looks like the Vikes signed Floyd. Hopefully he can turn it around on and off the field.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ael-floyd/


I really was not in favor of the Viks pursuing Floyd but now that he is here I gotta hope for the best. Game on....


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S197 wrote:
I'm still a little annoyed we didn't go harder after Marshall when he was released. This team could have used a 50 catch 700 yard receiver and that was a down year for him. He'll retire in a year or two but he brings the production and experience the receiver corps could have used. Boldin could fill a similar void.

Marshall would have been great, tough pull though. He wanted to be near the broadcasting studio for his TV gig.


Never thought about that, makes more sense now why he signed with the other NY team.


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MikethePurple wrote:
Looks like the Vikes signed Floyd. Hopefully he can turn it around on and off the field.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ael-floyd/


I really was not in favor of the Viks pursuing Floyd but now that he is here I gotta hope for the best. Game on....


Good hustle MikethePurple. There were definitely safer FA's out there, but we'll have to wait on the contract details. If we get him on a nice one-year prove-it deal, he has the first-round pedigree (something Zimmer loves... maybe too much) to be a solid contributor if he gets his head in the game. He isn't a chronic issue off the field or anything, criticisms of his character have been a little overblown.

The main concern is in looking at why he hasn't developed at all in his young career. Hopefully he takes this opportunity to turn his career around.

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