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Vikings decline 5th-year option on Bridgewater

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 4:58 pm
by J. Kapp 11
From Tom Pelissero via Twitter
#Vikings informed Teddy Bridgewater they’re declining his option, source said. No setback. No nerve issue. Just can’t injury-guarantee him.

2:03 pm • 1 May 2017
Understand the Vikings not picking up the option, but sad for TB. He's a good guy who deserved better.

Re: Vikings decline 5th-year option on Bridgewater

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 6:13 pm
by S197
Wonder what he means by "no setback." Great to hear there is no nerve damage.

Re: Vikings decline 5th-year option on Bridgewater

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 6:44 pm
by Mothman
S197 wrote:Wonder what he means by "no setback."
I just took it to mean this decision isn't due to a new development or an as-yet-unreported setback in Bridgewater's recovery.

Re: Vikings decline 5th-year option on Bridgewater

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 6:58 pm
by 808vikingsfan
S197 wrote:Wonder what he means by "no setback." Great to hear there is no nerve damage.

Could be related to the tweet that Peter King posted earlier today.
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He later edited his post to this
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Re: Vikings decline 5th-year option on Bridgewater

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 7:26 pm
by RFIP
Why does no one seem to understand what is REALLY going on here?

If TB is on PUP all season, which is a REAL possibility, then this year becomes voided and the Vikings have until NEXT May to pick up his 5th 9would then be SIXTH) year option.

I mean this has been reported everywhere, how has it not found its way to this board???

Plain and simple I think the Vikings are playing both ends against the middle and are going to get caught without ANY QB because Sam ain't signing ANY long term deal where the rug can be pulled out from under him again BUT, that said, Bridgewater is FAR from gone in Minny as of right now.

Re: Vikings decline 5th-year option on Bridgewater

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 12:06 am
by VikingLord
RFIP wrote:Why does no one seem to understand what is REALLY going on here?

If TB is on PUP all season, which is a REAL possibility, then this year becomes voided and the Vikings have until NEXT May to pick up his 5th 9would then be SIXTH) year option.

I mean this has been reported everywhere, how has it not found its way to this board???

Plain and simple I think the Vikings are playing both ends against the middle and are going to get caught without ANY QB because Sam ain't signing ANY long term deal where the rug can be pulled out from under him again BUT, that said, Bridgewater is FAR from gone in Minny as of right now.
If Teddy isn't ready to take snaps and perform football movements by this summer, odds that he'll ever play again drop dramatically in my view. I don't think the Vikings are playing around here at all - I think Bridgewater's injury was simply too severe for him to recover to the degree necessary to play football.

Re: Vikings decline 5th-year option on Bridgewater

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 1:45 am
by PurpleKoolaid
I think Teddy can overcome it as soon as anyone. But do the Vikes want to say goodbye to Sam anytime soon? I think we go 8-8 again, and if we do, I want Teddy to be qb, BUT HE HAS TO SHOW HE IS READDY. oTHERWISE, EXTEND sb now AND BUT THIS ALL TO REST. Im not going to lie, im pull for Teddy, but i will be happy with SB if they make up their minds right away. Its not like he is a rookie.

Re: Vikings decline 5th-year option on Bridgewater

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 8:40 am
by mansquatch
I think they'll sit on it until next year. If they are stuck on SB they'll Franchise him and pay him big ticket money. This situation stinks, but RIGHT NOW, their best move is to be patient.

Re: Vikings decline 5th-year option on Bridgewater

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 8:55 am
by chicagopurple
Latest news out is that Teddy has nerve damage, and much like Sharif, this is not something that will heal. What a crappy way to end a career that never really had a chance to shine.

Re: Vikings decline 5th-year option on Bridgewater

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:05 am
by Mothman
There are conflicting reports about the nerve damage but Tom pelissero (who is pretty reliable0 is still reporting that Bridgewater didn't suffer nerve damage.

The info about the nerve damage seems to stem froma report by peter King that was changed shortly after it was originally posted. It appears King may have simply made a mistake and corrected it.

Ben Goessling has written a good piece about Bridgewater's situation for ESPN. It ends with this:

http://www.espn.com/blog/minnesota-viki ... -has-to-go
And if Bridgewater does return to the active roster sometime this fall, his contract would expire in March. He'd undoubtedly be looking to start in 2018, meaning the Vikings would have to decide if they'd seen enough to pick him over Bradford (provided they hadn't already signed Bradford at that point). Essentially, while there remains a path for Bridgewater to start for the Vikings again, the team isn't currently pointed in that direction. Something would have to change to get it there.

That's why Monday's decision was at once prudent and unsurprising. Cheery statements about Bridgewater's recovery are one thing; in the uncharitable world of the NFL, eight-figure financial commitments are another. It's possible the 24-year-old quarterback will still earn one of those from the Vikings, but he's going to have to meet a heavy burden of proof to make that happen.

Re: Vikings decline 5th-year option on Bridgewater

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:15 am
by Mothman
RFIP wrote:Why does no one seem to understand what is REALLY going on here?

If TB is on PUP all season, which is a REAL possibility, then this year becomes voided and the Vikings have until NEXT May to pick up his 5th 9would then be SIXTH) year option.

I mean this has been reported everywhere, how has it not found its way to this board???
It's been discussed here. There are probably just people who didn't see that discussion.
Plain and simple I think the Vikings are playing both ends against the middle and are going to get caught without ANY QB because Sam ain't signing ANY long term deal where the rug can be pulled out from under him again BUT, that said, Bridgewater is FAR from gone in Minny as of right now.
It's hard to tell if the Vikings comments about Bridgewater are primarily intended to be encouraging and supportive or if they indicate a genuine belief he can still be their starter down the road. I suspect Bradford's fate is in his own hands or, more precisely, that it hinges mainly on his performance this year. If he stays healthy and plays well enough to convince the Vikings he should remain their starter going forward, the job will likely be his, with a lucrative extension and an assurance that he is the starter. If he feels too threatened by Bridgewater (or any other young QB) at that point to sign, good luck to him elsewhere. A starting QB needs to be able to handle competition.

Re: Vikings decline 5th-year option on Bridgewater

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:24 am
by Nunin
As of now, when each is fully healthy, I find SB to be the superior QB by a decent margin. It's especially obvious when running a system like like Turner's.
The conundrum is that, IMO, TB was miscast in Norv's system...like most of the offense was.
TB has lots of potential for growth and would be a stud in the type of system Shurmur looks to be employing. SB will be good in it also...just older and less likely to scare teams with his feet, although he can get out and move the chains.
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It'd be a tough choice if TB makes a full recovery. Neither would want to play second fiddle given the need for starters leaguewide.
Personally, if I'm calling the shots...., I let TB go just because I don't think I could trust that knee going forward...especially as a starting QB who has so little overall experience in the league vs Bradford.

Re: Vikings decline 5th-year option on Bridgewater

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:37 am
by AlldayPotter
What is it looking like for QBs next year in draft? Better than this years?

If sam does well and goes 10-6 or better than we should extend him, otherwise if we play poorly we should look to draft QB next year.

Sucks for Teddy, but we can't sit and wait forever

Re: Vikings decline 5th-year option on Bridgewater

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 10:11 am
by Mothman
AlldayPotter wrote:What is it looking like for QBs next year in draft? Better than this years?
As I understand it, at this point next year's draft is being viewed as a deep draft for the QB position.
If sam does well and goes 10-6 or better than we should extend him, otherwise if we play poorly we should look to draft QB next year.
I think they should draft one anyway!

Re: Vikings decline 5th-year option on Bridgewater

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 10:31 am
by mansquatch
Just going to throw this log on the fire...

Premise #1: SB has a better arm than TB.

Premise #2: TB has far better mobility than SB.

So... assuming both are healthy in 2018, who do we want?

To me the mobility adds an ability to produce something from nothing. It also helps offset some protection issues.

However... a QB in the NFL is a passer first. Can TB do enough of what SB can do with his arm to be viable? This latter question is not that dissimilar to the one we were asking before TB got hurt coming out of 2015. Basically the question was, could TB throw 10 more TDs, maybe 500 more yards and keep his INT numbers down? If yes, we felt we had a chance to contend.

SB actually did produce those numbers, more or less, last year despite all the OL woes and sabotaged drives.

Teddy is 24. SB is 29.

Do we go for the guy who has done what we hoped for and hope with better protection he does more? Or do we go for the guy we hope can do what we need, plus has legs?

Keep in mind, this scenario can change dramatically as information is learned. Teddy's health, Sam's play this year, etc.

Given what we know today, I think the most likely scenario is that SB is the starter going forward. This is mostly based on the fact that TB had a potentially career ending injury and we just do not have any tangible reason to believe he isn't done beyond hope. I hope he does come back and makes this decision a hard one. It would be a great feel good story and great for Teddy, but it just doesn't feel like a likely outcome.