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Re: Vikings still have to add depth at offensive tackle

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 5:33 pm
by CbusVikesFan
Mothman wrote: 12 (13 if you count Joe Webb, who was initially drafted to play WR). 4 of them were drafted in the first 2 rounds.
Good Lord! Exasperating. There ya have it.

Re: Vikings still have to add depth at offensive tackle

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 8:24 am
by halfgiz
808vikingsfan wrote:Supposed to be a deep OT class next year from what I've heard. Rome wasn't...

But right now our problem is who is going to be RG. Next season if we decide to not keep Boone and Berger retires.
We will need to find players at them spots.
I'm intrested to see how Reid Fragel does in the preseason. Could him and Hill be depth at the tackle spots.

Re: Vikings still have to add depth at offensive tackle

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 10:43 am
by chicagopurple
CbusVikes hit the nail on the head.......its all a long term problem with no short fix.

Re: Vikings still have to add depth at offensive tackle

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 11:26 am
by dead_poet
halfgiz wrote:
But right now our problem is who is going to be RG. Next season if we decide to not keep Boone and Berger retires.
We will need to find players at them spots.
I'm intrested to see how Reid Fragel does in the preseason. Could him and Hill be depth at the tackle spots.
Boone is signed through 2019. I'd be shocked if they release him outright prior to that. Isiorda has a shot at the RG spot in a couple years, barring draft/FA.

Re: Vikings still have to add depth at offensive tackle

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 12:26 pm
by Nunin
So, what's the deal with Smith, the right tackle? Is he one and done or is he still in the mix there?
Is that even the correct name? I'm talkin about the FA they signed with Boone last year.

Re: Vikings still have to add depth at offensive tackle

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 12:28 pm
by dead_poet
Nunin wrote:So, what's the deal with Smith, the right tackle? Is he one and done or is he still in the mix there?
Is that even the correct name? I'm talkin about the FA they signed with Boone last year.
He was a FA and re-signed with Cincy.

Re: Vikings still have to add depth at offensive tackle

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 12:42 pm
by Nunin
Thanks DP.

Re: Vikings still have to add depth at offensive tackle

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 1:40 pm
by CbusVikesFan
chicagopurple wrote:CbusVikes hit the nail on the head.......its all a long term problem with no short fix.
Some days I think we have hope to be headed in the right direction then every year it's a different hot spot to address, that doesn't. I shake my head at the draft almost every year. This year I was sure that all of the picks would make sense and have value for the pick.

Re: Vikings still have to add depth at offensive tackle

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 11:21 pm
by Pondering Her Percy
CbusVikesFan wrote: Some days I think we have hope to be headed in the right direction then every year it's a different hot spot to address, that doesn't. I shake my head at the draft almost every year. This year I was sure that all of the picks would make sense and have value for the pick.
Every team every year has a hot spot to address. GB with secondary and RB, Seattle with their OL and interior DL, Dallas with their D backfield, I can go on and on. Just because we have a different spot to address every year doesnt say much. All teams do.

Re: Vikings still have to add depth at offensive tackle

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 8:18 am
by CbusVikesFan
Pondering Her Percy wrote: Every team every year has a hot spot to address. GB with secondary and RB, Seattle with their OL and interior DL, Dallas with their D backfield, I can go on and on. Just because we have a different spot to address every year doesnt say much. All teams do.
Yea, and you missed what I said after that, it "doesn't" get addressed until after it's a "hot mess". I don't give a crap who else has a hot spot, I'm talking about Vikings. When you have a certain need that is more glaring than any other position and year after year it is ignored is what I am talking about. Need O-line, grab a wr or two. Need a LB, draft one late and hope for the best.

Re: Vikings still have to add depth at offensive tackle

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 8:19 am
by RFIP
The fact that TJ Clemmings is still on the roster is VERY discouraging to me. He is easily the worst OL I saw play for any team last year. And I watched him at Pitt too and could not believe the Vikings drafted him. He is just BAD.

Re: Vikings still have to add depth at offensive tackle

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 8:31 am
by Mothman
RFIP wrote:The fact that TJ Clemmings is still on the roster is VERY discouraging to me. He is easily the worst OL I saw play for any team last year. And I watched him at Pitt too and could not believe the Vikings drafted him. He is just BAD.
I agree and it bothers me too. I'm not sure why Beavers is still on the roster either, although I doubt he'll make it any further than the practice squad this year, if he even gets that far.

Clemmings continued presence on the roster speaks to an issue I've had with vikings management for years now. They're too willing to settle and stick with ineffective players for years. Why keep Clemmings around? Use that roster spot on another player. Maybe that player won't prove to be any more effective than T. J. has been but at least the effort would indicate the team is trying to improve on an obvious weakness.

Re: Vikings still have to add depth at offensive tackle

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 8:52 am
by PurpleMustReign
Mothman wrote: I agree and it bothers me too. I'm not sure why Beavers is still on the roster either, although I doubt he'll make it any further than the practice squad this year, if he even gets that far.

Clemmings continued presence on the roster speaks to an issue I've had with vikings management for years now. They're too willing to settle and stick with ineffective players for years. Why keep Clemmings around? Use that roster spot on another player. Maybe that player won't prove to be any more effective than T. J. has been but at least the effort would indicate the team is trying to improve on an obvious weakness.
My guess is since he is going into his 3rd year, they are hoping for developmental improvement. He certainly didn't show much last season, so Idk. I assume he also isn't making much money. I still think they should try him at guard, or even at DE. Why did Pitt change him to OL?

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Re: Vikings still have to add depth at offensive tackle

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 9:06 am
by Mothman
PurpleMustReign wrote:My guess is since he is going into his 3rd year, they are hoping for developmental improvement. He certainly didn't show much last season, so Idk. I assume he also isn't making much money. I still think they should try him at guard, or even at DE. Why did Pitt change him to OL?
I don't remember, although I think I read about it when he was first drafted.

I assume they're looking for developmental improvement too. Maybe they'll get it but at this point it seems to me he'd have to improve so much that moving on would be a more prudent choice. Maybe he'll prove me wrong....

You're correct, by NFL standards, he's not making much money. On the other hand, if I could make even a 1/4 of what he's making, it would be life-changing! :)

Re: Vikings still have to add depth at offensive tackle

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 9:49 am
by Nunin
Can you play tackle, Jim?
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I can see it now: Vikings sign converted artist from Chicago for depth at tackle. High risk high reward and a feel good story.
He'll start out on the PS alongside the German Unicorn.
Spielman: 'The sky is the limit with this guy and we're particularly excited that he's happy to play for 1/4 of Clemming's salary, so, it was really a no brainer.'