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What do you guys think would be the grade of this draft for us? Ive seen quite a few of the experts give us everything from a B- to an A.

I personally think those are way to hi, Rick once again had some magic number in his head he wanted more then maybe the quantity in the rounds 3-7. I looked up a few of the UDFA and not impressed at all, nor with the needs we could have gotten later on by trading a 6th and a lot of the 7ths. Even the 4ths, but if Rick got 4ths, im afraid he woul have just traded then away again for more later picks.

I like the first 2 picks. Had I known Rick was going to, imo, waste some good picks to get a larger number of picks, I really wish he had gone after Lamp. I wanted Lamp and Cook, or Elf. and Cook. Very happy with these 2 and am certain they will surprised those who dont know alot about them.

I give Rick a solid C+. Better then I usually give him.


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I believe the consensus on the first two picks are they were good ones. The many mocks, from several sites, I completed leading up to the draft Cooks never fell to 41 so we were 'lucky' for that one. I really think Philly would have been in on Cook if we didnt trade up

Rick did well trading up for Elf...I dont think Feeney or Elf would have lasted if we stayed put

I like the Jaleel Johnson pick...then it seems a bunch of curious moves. I wouldn't be too critical if Rick traded for 2018 picks, but continuously trading down when there was talent at positions we need--OT, G. Siragusa, Asiata, Rod. Johnson, Davenport.


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What do you guys think would be the grade of this draft for us? Ive seen quite a few of the experts give us everything from a B- to an A.

I personally think those are way to hi, Rick once again had some magic number in his head he wanted more then maybe the quantity in the rounds 3-7. I looked up a few of the UDFA and not impressed at all, nor with the needs we could have gotten later on by trading a 6th and a lot of the 7ths. Even the 4ths, but if Rick got 4ths, im afraid he woul have just traded then away again for more later picks.

I like the first 2 picks. Had I known Rick was going to, imo, waste some good picks to get a larger number of picks, I really wish he had gone after Lamp. I wanted Lamp and Cook, or Elf. and Cook. Very happy with these 2 and am certain they will surprised those who dont know alot about them.

I give Rick a solid C+. Better then I usually give him.


Not sure how you expect to get both Lamp and Cook. They were both projected first rounders and all we had was one second

I'd give it a B+

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I'd give it a C but it's obviously way too early to grade it with any real accuracy.


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I'll go C+. The OCD trading really upsets me. If there is nothing they like at their spot then it means they aren't doing an adequate scouting job, especially if it happens as often as Rick trade.

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I view this draft in the short term as being all about Sam Bradford. If he continues to have success for us then the 1st round pick was well spent. Beyond that, it seems to revolve mainly around Cook's ability to contribute. He seems like he can make good on that if he can keep himself clean. I'm glad they grabbed Elfein, they needed talent upfront, but as a 3rd rounder it might be a season or two before we see him play.

Really beyond the 2nd round it is a crap shoot in the NFL. It is interesting to watch these guys in preseason and see how the coaches are able to develop them, but from a 2017 viewpoint I doubt we'll see any of them play meaningful snaps outside of the first two guys taken and special teams. If that ends up not being true (barring injury) that is fantastic news for the Vikings.

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I give it an A-.

I am super tough on Rick Speilman because I believe that he can be so much better than he is. He does a lot of things right but will turn around and make a mistake that hurts everything he has put in place.

Pros of this draft:
- Finding Cook in the 2nd and having the huevos to trade up and get him. I believe this was a brilliant move. He gave away the same pick that many teams in the last 2 years have given up to be able to move up 7 spots. Snatching Cook to start is a huge steal. Many of you may like Murray but you have yet to seem him play. He's a 3 yards and a cloud of dust guy. Adding Cook gives us an explosive counter that that size and I finally feel that this backfield is up to replacing AP.

- Taking JJ in the 4th. Smart move. Loved the pick. Floyd's in trouble and even if he wasn't we don't know if he would be the same disruptor he was prior to the injuries. Final year of his contract too. Johnson is 33 (i think). Having a disruptive 3 tech is so valuable. We have the rushers now we need to be able to keep the QB from stepping up into the pocket. This guy could be the guy to do it.

- Bucky in the 6th. From a pure talent standpoint, you can't go wrong. He has a bit of the dropsies but he is a converted QB so he knows coverages and he is big and fast. Something missing from our passing game is a goal line fade. When was the last time you saw us run one? I hope RS and company realizes that they can put this guy out there (6'7 with a 39 inch vert) and give him a look from time to time. At the very least, you force a team to open up the middle of the field for you.

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This lineup would force a defense to either go nickel in the goal line (which can allow you to run the ball). Or move their LB our to cover Hodges (putting their other CB on AT) and allow you to run the ball. If they stay vanilla (cover 5) then you throw the fade to your big WR or look for an arrow route for AT. Lets not even talk about Cook coming out the backfield.

-E. Lee in the 7th. Love this guy. I'm a K- State fan so I am bias but this guy is the real deal. A bit light in the pants but with some work he can be a highflyer for us. Great value pick

- Aviante Collins - Great possible talent. Super athletic but can't seem to keep on the weight.

Cons of this draft:
-LB pick in the 4th. Too high for him. Not a pressing need. Still drafted a better player in the 7th.

-Trading back. He is where RS gets himself into trouble. He trades back and gets a couple of picks and makes a smart move. But it is like he gets addicted to it and continues to do it time and time again. The trade last year for the Phins pick this year was abysmal (we basically exchanged picks). He has to learn when enough is enough and start selecting talented players. We drafted 2 WRs when we should have selected one better one. The kid from UNC would have been my choice. *If our roster is a talented as we think it is (Sam Bradford season saving trade) then we should not have room on it for all of these 6th and 7th rounders year after year. Every year it seems we are replacing PS players with new ones and aren't really developing anyone. That's because we are drafting so many players and everyone is a new shiny toy to play with. Some years we need to use these 7ths and 6th and trade up to select extra 4th rounders.

- Not addressing OT. Not going to go too hard on the guy but OT is a problem. I know it was a weak draft but we still needed to address OT. Right now, we are a guy rolling into one of our tackles legs from having Clemmings back on the field as a starter. "That's it, Game Over Man, Game Over"


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I give it an A-.

I am super tough on Rick Speilman because I believe that he can be so much better than he is. He does a lot of things right but will turn around and make a mistake that hurts everything he has put in place.

Pros of this draft:
- Finding Cook in the 2nd and having the huevos to trade up and get him. I believe this was a brilliant move. He gave away the same pick that many teams in the last 2 years have given up to be able to move up 7 spots. Snatching Cook to start is a huge steal. Many of you may like Murray but you have yet to seem him play. He's a 3 yards and a cloud of dust guy. Adding Cook gives us an explosive counter that that size and I finally feel that this backfield is up to replacing AP.

- Taking JJ in the 4th. Smart move. Loved the pick. Floyd's in trouble and even if he wasn't we don't know if he would be the same disruptor he was prior to the injuries. Final year of his contract too. Johnson is 33 (i think). Having a disruptive 3 tech is so valuable. We have the rushers now we need to be able to keep the QB from stepping up into the pocket. This guy could be the guy to do it.

- Bucky in the 6th. From a pure talent standpoint, you can't go wrong. He has a bit of the dropsies but he is a converted QB so he knows coverages and he is big and fast. Something missing from our passing game is a goal line fade. When was the last time you saw us run one? I hope RS and company realizes that they can put this guy out there (6'7 with a 39 inch vert) and give him a look from time to time. At the very least, you force a team to open up the middle of the field for you.

BH--------------X-X-0-X-X-KR-----------AT-----------SD

This lineup would force a defense to either go nickel in the goal line (which can allow you to run the ball). Or move their LB our to cover Hodges (putting their other CB on AT) and allow you to run the ball. If they stay vanilla (cover 5) then you throw the fade to your big WR or look for an arrow route for AT. Lets not even talk about Cook coming out the backfield.

-E. Lee in the 7th. Love this guy. I'm a K- State fan so I am bias but this guy is the real deal. A bit light in the pants but with some work he can be a highflyer for us. Great value pick

- Aviante Collins - Great possible talent. Super athletic but can't seem to keep on the weight.

Cons of this draft:
-LB pick in the 4th. Too high for him. Not a pressing need. Still drafted a better player in the 7th.

-Trading back. He is where RS gets himself into trouble. He trades back and gets a couple of picks and makes a smart move. But it is like he gets addicted to it and continues to do it time and time again. The trade last year for the Phins pick this year was abysmal (we basically exchanged picks). He has to learn when enough is enough and start selecting talented players. We drafted 2 WRs when we should have selected one better one. The kid from UNC would have been my choice. *If our roster is a talented as we think it is (Sam Bradford season saving trade) then we should not have room on it for all of these 6th and 7th rounders year after year. Every year it seems we are replacing PS players with new ones and aren't really developing anyone. That's because we are drafting so many players and everyone is a new shiny toy to play with. Some years we need to use these 7ths and 6th and trade up to select extra 4th rounders.

- Not addressing OT. Not going to go too hard on the guy but OT is a problem. I know it was a weak draft but we still needed to address OT. Right now, we are a guy rolling into one of our tackles legs from having Clemmings back on the field as a starter. "That's it, Game Over Man, Game Over"


Very nice post, I agree with each point except for the conclusion (i.e. The grade) which I'd say is a B at best.


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I give the draft/offseason an A for effort and B for what they actuay did.
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I like most of the picks and FAs....a few head scratchers in there as has been discussed.
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Mostly I'm concerned about what has happened to the offense since Zimmer got here and Spielman took over as GM and that's in spite of the black swan scenarion last season. You could even argue that Kalil's situation is a black swan in itself.
Musgrave did more with Ponder and Artis Hicks-types than anyone since. AD only got close to SB when Favre had one of his greatest seasons ever.
There seems to be a fundamental flaw in matching talent to scheme to coaching on that side of the ball. It's a friggin mess!
Compared to the flow of talent to scheme/coaching on defense, it's literally night and day.
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I'm slightly irritated that they let CP walk when it looked like he was really about to find his niche (at least to me) in Shumur's offense.
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Outside of Kalil's rookie season they have been behind the eightball at left tackle since they cut McKinnie before camp. He started the superbowl that season in Baltimore.
The continual dismal play and laughable depth on O-line, (a decade old experience), was completely exacerbated by the wholeale mismatch of Turner's system, AD blinders, TB's deep ball and the aforementioned disability of the line to pass protect/run block for a reasonable length of time, was only an injury away (several in last seasons case) from total meltdown.
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I have good feels about the team as is. The Bradford trade was a huge win. The guy is a bona fide stud IMO. They have some good weapons for the scheme that seem to match up now. Can they protect him? Does Sparano know what he is doing?
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Bradford, Cook and Efelin(sp) is a good draft off the top IMO. Wish there was some solid depth at tackle and way fewer stiffs~


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If they don't have Bradford on their team after this season after giving up the picks they did for him, then I will personally look for Rick and punch him in the mouth. It is beyond asinine that they haven't even talked to his agent.

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If they don't have Bradford on their team after this season after giving up the picks they did for him, then I will personally look for Rick and punch him in the mouth. It is beyond asinine that they haven't even talked to his agent.

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The QB situation is a challenging one. What happens if they sign Bradford to a long term deal and then Teddy is ready to play by December? Then what? That would be bad at any position, but especially bad at QB which is the highest paid in the league. If they act prematurely they could end up with a ton of dead money against the cap that could prevent them from resigning key players like Rhodes, Barr, Hunter, or Kendricks.

The Vikings are in a tough spot with Bradford and Bridgewater. Being patient is probably the best strategy right now.

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The QB situation is a challenging one. What happens if they sign Bradford to a long term deal and then Teddy is ready to play by December? Then what? That would be bad at any position, but especially bad at QB which is the highest paid in the league. If they act prematurely they could end up with a ton of dead money against the cap that could prevent them from resigning key players like Rhodes, Barr, Hunter, or Kendricks.

The Vikings are in a tough spot with Bradford and Bridgewater. Being patient is probably the best strategy right now.


I don't always believe everything I read but it seems that there is far more pessimism in regards to TBs health and ultimately his chances of returning. Who knows. Shame that had to happen to a genuinely nice guy. My gut tells me we may never see TB play again. Hope my gut is wrong.


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The QB situation is a challenging one. What happens if they sign Bradford to a long term deal and then Teddy is ready to play by December? Then what? That would be bad at any position, but especially bad at QB which is the highest paid in the league. If they act prematurely they could end up with a ton of dead money against the cap that could prevent them from resigning key players like Rhodes, Barr, Hunter, or Kendricks.

The Vikings are in a tough spot with Bradford and Bridgewater. Being patient is probably the best strategy right now.


I don't always believe everything I read but it seems that there is far more pessimism in regards to TBs health and ultimately his chances of returning. Who knows. Shame that had to happen to a genuinely nice guy. My gut tells me we may never see TB play again. Hope my gut is wrong.


The Vikes only choice is to wait and not to play Teddy. Keep him on PUP and get his contract extended for another year with the rollover clause. You would then have him for 2 years (2018 rollover year and 2019 5th but really a *6th* year option). This way you can tag Sam if you want to at the end of 2017 or let him walk if Teddy is full strength.


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The QB situation is a challenging one. What happens if they sign Bradford to a long term deal and then Teddy is ready to play by December? Then what? That would be bad at any position, but especially bad at QB which is the highest paid in the league. If they act prematurely they could end up with a ton of dead money against the cap that could prevent them from resigning key players like Rhodes, Barr, Hunter, or Kendricks.

The Vikings are in a tough spot with Bradford and Bridgewater. Being patient is probably the best strategy right now.


I don't always believe everything I read but it seems that there is far more pessimism in regards to TBs health and ultimately his chances of returning. Who knows. Shame that had to happen to a genuinely nice guy. My gut tells me we may never see TB play again. Hope my gut is wrong.


FWIW, I agree. The longer we hear nothing, the more likely it FEELS LIKE it is going to be bad news. Still, I think the best move right now is to wait. If they are wrong and over commit it will have huge cap ramifications.

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If they don't have Bradford on their team after this season after giving up the picks they did for him, then I will personally look for Rick and punch him in the mouth. It is beyond asinine that they haven't even talked to his agent.

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He wont be in MN hopefully if this happens so you better have a lot of time to track him down.


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Cook -- I think it was a good intersection of need and value. PFF had Cook in their top 10 overall and their #1 RB (ahead of McCaffrey, Fournette, and Mixon). Off field issues are a concern but I feel a little overblown. Ball security and staying health (3 shoulder surgeries) are of bigger concern. "A"

Elflein -- Top center so once again, intersection of need and value. Sounds like he has great work ethic and leadership skills. Great run blocker but doesn't excel in pass protection. I'm hoping he'll be a Matt Birk type of guy. "A"

Johnson -- A run stuffer with penetrating ability. Seems like a good fit for this defense although passing on Dede Westbrook is tough. "B"

Gedeon -- Ah everyone's favorite pick! Solid special teamer who seems to shoot the gaps well. Not a fan of his tackling technique. Seems early for this guy and may be the place in the draft the Vikings could have gone T. "D" (so naturally he will be stud of the draft!)

Adams -- As I suspected the Vikings grab a returner and a potential slot guy. Pick gets a "C" because Nathan Peterman was available and I think he was a steal at this point of the draft.

Isidora -- 3-year starter and PFF seems to like him. Believe it or not, they actually had him higher than Elflein. Adds needed depth to the interior line. "B+"

Hodges -- Can possibly add a nice new dimension to the offense and a potential matchup/redzone nightmare for defenses. PFF had him top 100. "A"

Coley -- Top receiver at the "U". Knock seems to be his passion for the game. "n/a" grade, not familiar with him.

Odenigbo -- Bull rusher with a developed spin move. Seems like a similar MO to Crichton. "B"

Lee/Tocho -- No idea. "N/A"


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I am surprisingly upbeat on the draft .
as previously mentioned, OT MUST be addressed. I am assuming that SPielman is planning a trade or grabbing a free agent for OT. If not and Clemmings plays ANY downs this year, then the plan is an epic fail. I cant believe he is done yet at OT....the OL will fall apart ir Clemmings or Sirles are part of the "plan".....


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Second and third, give them an A+, rest of the draft a C. I thought that they were going to stay above the mendoza line the whole draft.

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Overall I give it a B-

The first 3 picks, Cook, Elflien and J.J are A+ in my book.

I like Cook where they got him. He's a first round talent but I would've been hesitant to take him in the first with all the extra stuff he has going on. As a 2nd rounder I love it. He seems like an ideal for where this Offense needs to go with Bradford at QB.

Elflien is my favorite pick I think. I hope he can have a cascade affect on the Line. He's smart, tough and nasty. He's talented and sounds like a real leader.

Johnson sounds like he's a great addition to the rotation at DT. He could do very well out there with Griffen, Linval and Hunter. That dline could be a handful.

Then it got weird for a bit. The trades were odd and I didn't understand the Gedeon or Adams picks. I thought those were reaches, worse still they were the kind where you have to Google a name.

It started to come back around with the Isidora, Hodges and Lee picks. I think those are pretty good late round picks and really may have saved it. Isidora has developmental potential, Hodges can be a Red zone terror and Lee could be a real steal where they got him.

I was disappointed they didn't get Antonio Garcia, I really believe they wanted him at 86 and got snaked by the Pats. No proof, just a feeling. Also I cannot believe they didn't use one of those first two 7th rounders on Zane Gonzalez. The best Kicker in the draft was sitting there for the taking and they had 3 other picks in the round.

The thing I love is that with many of the guys picked you see things like intelligence, toughness and high motor mentioned.


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I am surprisingly upbeat on the draft .
as previously mentioned, OT MUST be addressed. I am assuming that SPielman is planning a trade or grabbing a free agent for OT. If not and Clemmings plays ANY downs this year, then the plan is an epic fail. I cant believe he is done yet at OT....the OL will fall apart ir Clemmings or Sirles are part of the "plan".....


I would imagine it would be Hill/Sirles. I can see Clemmings getting cut to be honest. Especially if Collins looks better than him

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Nobody is talking about the two wide receivers. I think they both have a really good shot to make the team and contribute. I think Adams could be a really good returner.

I love the Cook pick and I think he will be the day one starter. Murray with his ankle injury might now be ready for the start of training camp and Cook is better than him anyway IMO.

Elflein will be very good, I think he starts at center and Berger,isildora, and keirin fight it out at right guard.

Gedeon will be a big contributor not only as a linebacker but I would be willing to bet that he is going to be our number one special teams stud. And he fills the void left by greenway.

The only pics that I'm not too high on was the Bucky pick. I would have much rather seen Jake butt instead of trading back.

I thought I was an overall good draft the Vikings I give it a B+


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I'd give it a C but it's obviously way too early to grade it with any real accuracy.


Me too, but I might bump it up to a B if we consider Bradford part of this year's draft since the Vikes gave up their 1st to get him. I am factoring in that Bradford will get a full offseason with the team and the system, which he didn't have last year, and I thought he performed well last year.

As for the rest of the draft, it was classic Spielman. He is not afraid to shuffle things around to get his guy, and his guy is usually someone who "should have gone higher" but slipped for one reason or another and who comes with some risk.

- Cook is a solid talent, but I think he's going to need better blocking up front than the Vikings have had in recent memory to realize that talent as a pro. He's even more of a straight-line runner than AD from what I can tell, so he's going to need even better blocking. This team isn't known for stellar run blocking.
- Not too many playoff teams get away with starting rookies at center. My hope is that Spielman isn't looking for an immediate starter with Elflein, and given the depth at that position on the team he might get the year of seasoning he's going to need.
- The rest of the guys strike me as immediate depth, which is fine by me. Whether Spielman finds any starters among that bunch remains to be seen, but there is definitely some potential there.

The upcoming year is going to be defined by how well Bradford does and how well Bradford can do is going to largely be set by how effective the offensive line is. Right now that remains a huge question mark, and I don't think this draft did much of anything to answer that question.


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What do you guys think would be the grade of this draft for us? Ive seen quite a few of the experts give us everything from a B- to an A.

I personally think those are way to hi, Rick once again had some magic number in his head he wanted more then maybe the quantity in the rounds 3-7. I looked up a few of the UDFA and not impressed at all, nor with the needs we could have gotten later on by trading a 6th and a lot of the 7ths. Even the 4ths, but if Rick got 4ths, im afraid he woul have just traded then away again for more later picks.

I like the first 2 picks. Had I known Rick was going to, imo, waste some good picks to get a larger number of picks, I really wish he had gone after Lamp. I wanted Lamp and Cook, or Elf. and Cook. Very happy with these 2 and am certain they will surprised those who dont know alot about them.

I give Rick a solid C+. Better then I usually give him.


Not sure how you expect to get both Lamp and Cook. They were both projected first rounders and all we had was one second

I'd give it a B+

I expected Rick to move up with all the crappy pick he liked stockpiling every friggin year, and getting Lamp. Even wif we only get 4-5 picks instead of 300.


Tue May 02, 2017 1:47 am
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Post Re: What grade would you give this draft for the Vikings?
I wonder what the Vikings have against Morgan. We now have 3 receiving TE's, and really good blocking ones. Which surprisingly is good for me if they can get the bal out quick and not kill SB. I wanna see why we picked Morgan in the first place.


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I have to give it a B. I don't think I'm a Vikes homer - I recall being pretty disappointed with the draft last year. But this year is a lot better.

If you want to have sweet dreams until the season starts, go read the "closer look" at Dalvin Cook at the Daily Norseman. My favorite nugget: "ESPN’s Sports Science reflected what can be seen when watching Cook’s game film: Cook, in pads, is often fastest man on the field. The show measured Cook’s speed and concluded that he is the fastest running back that has been tested in the past five years. He also had the same 20-yard split time as Washington WR John Ross -- who set a Combine record with a 4.22-second 40-yard dash last month -- in pads."
http://www.dailynorseman.com/2017/5/1/1 ... alvin-cook

Like the Elflein, Johnson, Isidora, Odenigbo, and Lee picks. Everyone is in love with Hodges. I think it's great to pick a high risk, high reward guy like that, but he's probably going to bust pretty badly - admit it!

Not of fan of the WR picks, or Gedeon. I'm on the record as saying that limited players drafted late from big schools tend to always be limited players in the NFL [like Tom Brady - eh?]. Usually, you get a pretty good look at them in tough competition and the ceiling is pretty low. But our coaching is pretty good on the defensive side of the ball now, so maybe Gedeon can be coached up to be a decent 2-down linebacker. In the same way Beavers was coached up, eh?


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Did anyone see the big list of UFAs we picked up?
SUpposedly Spielman had compiled a long list of guys he wanted and jumped on em all immediately after the draft.
I would be interested to hear the opinion of the more informed folks here on this group of players.


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I applaud the energy put toward UDFAs. Last fall I looked up every O-lineman in the league for where they were drafted to see where the Vikes stacked up vs the league.
One of the things I found was a lot more UDFAs starting or providing quality depth. Even more interesting was how the teams that had those types were typically better teams all around, as far as year in and out.
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It remains to be seen if the combination of Spielman/Zimmer can fish out the right mix of talent on that side of the ball. They've certainly pulled it off on defense. The starters on offense, when healthy, match up well against the league IMO...it's the huge drop off from there at critical positions that kinks the fow.
A common ailment league wide...but the better GM/coaching combos find ways to get it done, and that's what sets them apart. 2cents


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Post Re: What grade would you give this draft for the Vikings?
I guess I'm going to have to go B-for all the reasons already mentioned. Really happy with the first three picks, not sold on Gedeon, hated all the trading down for late rounders, but see potential upside for some of the late round/UDFA's. I mentioned it in another thread but will re-address here. I personally really wanted to see them take Peterman at some point in the draft. But I'm just wondering if they think next year's crop of QB talent is better. If so, they could see how things progress with Teddy this year and draft a QB next year to develop behind Bradford. Just a theory. What do you guys think?


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chicagopurple wrote:
Did anyone see the big list of UFAs we picked up?
SUpposedly Spielman had compiled a long list of guys he wanted and jumped on em all immediately after the draft.
I would be interested to hear the opinion of the more informed folks here on this group of players.


I can't speak to them other than what I've read but it sounds like we gave signing bonuses and some guaranteed money to a few. After the draft, the player is in control so not putting upfront $ makes it less likely they will sign with that particular team. It seems like the Vikings put forth more $'s this year to get more signing but that's just anecdotal.


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