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I know free agency is still going on but I wanted to get your guys' thoughts on the upcoming draft now that the big free agency signings are done. Who should we be targeting? Should we try and trade up for a 1st round offensive lineman? What round, if any, should we target a RB or QB?


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While I don't think we could ever do enough to improve the O line situation, this is such a RB rich draft that it wouldn't surprise me if the Vikes look in that direction early in the draft.


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I hope that we will take the best linemen available in the 2nd round, because like you guys know this is a really good draft to get a RB, so we can wait the 3rd or 4rd round to get one ;)


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there appears to be some depth in the interior lineman and possibly the tackle spot, but almost every NFL team
needs a better OL .. so i think there will be a run, especially on tackles. I could see us taking a DT with the
first pick. I get the feeling they want to move on from Floyd sooner than later

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The aim of free agency for me was to do enough to have a free run at the draft. I'd have liked an interior lineman too, but I think they've pretty much done that.

My first three picks would be rb, interior ol and qb in whatever order the chips fall. I could see a run on rb because the class is stacked, but also a run on qb or ol because it isn't and everyone wants them!

I'm a fan of Bradford but don't see him as a long-term superbowl winning qb...ideally he will prove me wrong but I don't see the downside with having a good young backup qb, look at the position the Patriots have found themselves in. In fact i'm pretty much from the school that you pick a QB in your first 5 picks each year you know you don't have a franchise one.

I'm also a fan of Murray, I think he was the right signing for free agency...but i'd like him to be covering the Asiata spot this season. I'm hoping the number 1 RB drops to us in the draft, ideally with our first pick.

On a side note I think Perine might be our guy at RB. It seemed odd to me the Vikings would show their hand so much with Zimmer photographed talking to Mixon/leaving with Mixon etc. Makes me think it's a classic sleight of hand trick and while Zimmer is talking to Mixon in plain view of the press Speilman and the RB coach (presumably the decision makers at RB) are all over Perine.


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I like Carlos Henderson as a late pick. Can immediately take over kickoff duties and is the type of receiver who could do well in this type of offense given time.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/ ... id=2558003


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The aim of free agency for me was to do enough to have a free run at the draft.


The draft is long term, free agency is short term.
If the draft was before free agency I think people would think the aim of the draft was to do enough to have a free run at free agency.

You almost have to ignore the draft when looking at the roster. No one has any idea what the drafted players are going to do, short or long term. Or who is going to be available when. :confused:


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I like Carlos Henderson as a late pick. Can immediately take over kickoff duties and is the type of receiver who could do well in this type of offense given time.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/ ... id=2558003

Did treadwell ever return kicks?

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Treadwell is way to slow with heavy feet to return. I am thinking Wright might be a good idea. Or Hill. One of the defensive players. But NOT Diggs or Theilen.


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Since we have 4 picks in rounds 3&4 some guys in that area:

Dede Weetbrook WR from OU is a good fit for Shurmur. Nice YAC receiver.

Safety from UConn Obi Melifonwu is another interesting prospect although his size and range is likely to push him up draft boards. A steal if he's around.

Nathan Peterman QB from Pitt. Not as flashy as the guys who will go ahead of him but played in a pro style offense and would be a solid contingency if Teddy's injury keeps him sidelined.


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PurpleMustReign wrote:
S197 wrote:
I like Carlos Henderson as a late pick. Can immediately take over kickoff duties and is the type of receiver who could do well in this type of offense given time.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/ ... id=2558003

Did treadwell ever return kicks?

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No KR or PR in college but I read he did everything in high school (KR, PK, S, QB, RB, WR).

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Treadwell is way to slow with heavy feet to return. I am thinking Wright might be a good idea. Or Hill. One of the defensive players. But NOT Diggs or Theilen.


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I'm all in on BPA! (Big shock.) I agree with the poster above who said they handled things in FA in such a way to have a free run at the draft and I think that is exactly how they should treat their picks this year. Would like to see the offense get some more love (just not at WR.) but if there is a defensive guy there, take him.

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Best case scenario for first 3 picks, IMO:

2nd round: Dan Feeney- OG Indiana (immediate starter at RG)
3rd round: Joe Mixon or Semaje Perine- RB Oklahoma (I hope they arent just relying on Murray)
3rd round: Somewhere on Defense. DT, OLB, NCB, S (Could use some depth/starters at those positions

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PHP would you rather have Perine or Mixon? My biggest concern with Perine is he has missed a couple of games with injury but I like him better than Mixon because of his size.

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Best case scenario for first 3 picks, IMO:

2nd round: Dan Feeney- OG Indiana (immediate starter at RG)
3rd round: Joe Mixon or Semaje Perine- RB Oklahoma (I hope they arent just relying on Murray)
3rd round: Somewhere on Defense. DT, OLB, NCB, S (Could use some depth/starters at those positions


I expect a TE and S to be taken in rounds 2/3. RB and G will wait until 3/4 I think. Then a bunch of defenders with better measurements than production in the later rounds.


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Pondering Her Percy wrote:
Best case scenario for first 3 picks, IMO:

2nd round: Dan Feeney- OG Indiana (immediate starter at RG)
3rd round: Joe Mixon or Semaje Perine- RB Oklahoma (I hope they arent just relying on Murray)
3rd round: Somewhere on Defense. DT, OLB, NCB, S (Could use some depth/starters at those positions


I expect a TE and S to be taken in rounds 2/3. RB and G will wait until 3/4 I think. Then a bunch of defenders with better measurements than production in the later rounds.


You lost me with that one :D Why would we take a TE and S when we already have Rudy and Sendejo there and pass on a RB and OG, two things we have very little of

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PHP would you rather have Perine or Mixon? My biggest concern with Perine is he has missed a couple of games with injury but I like him better than Mixon because of his size.

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That's a tough one. I really like both. From a football player/playmaker standpoint....Mixon. From a tough/grinder/character standpoint....Perine. I would take either

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Pondering Her Percy wrote:
fiestavike wrote:
Pondering Her Percy wrote:
Best case scenario for first 3 picks, IMO:

2nd round: Dan Feeney- OG Indiana (immediate starter at RG)
3rd round: Joe Mixon or Semaje Perine- RB Oklahoma (I hope they arent just relying on Murray)
3rd round: Somewhere on Defense. DT, OLB, NCB, S (Could use some depth/starters at those positions


I expect a TE and S to be taken in rounds 2/3. RB and G will wait until 3/4 I think. Then a bunch of defenders with better measurements than production in the later rounds.


You lost me with that one :D Why would we take a TE and S when we already have Rudy and Sendejo there and pass on a RB and OG, two things we have very little of


They can run 2 TE sets, and Sendedjo isn't that great and has no guaranteed money on his deal. Rudolph is also getting paid a lot and approaching the end of his contract.

There is a lot of depth at those two positions, as well as RB and G. I expect them to address all 4 of those positions...Could also use a DT, LB, and QB.


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I expect a TE and S to be taken in rounds 2/3. RB and G will wait until 3/4 I think. Then a bunch of defenders with better measurements than production in the later rounds.[/quote]

You lost me with that one :D Why would we take a TE and S when we already have Rudy and Sendejo there and pass on a RB and OG, two things we have very little of[/quote]

They can run 2 TE sets, and Sendedjo isn't that great and has no guaranteed money on his deal. Rudolph is also getting paid a lot and approaching the end of his contract.

There is a lot of depth at those two positions, as well as RB and G. I expect them to address all 4 of those positions...Could also use a DT, LB, and QB.[/quote]

I was actually thinking the same way. If one of the 2 top TE's fall to us in round 2, we just might take them. In that case, maybe our first picks would look like this:
2-TE
3-OL
3-S/RB
4-RB/S
4-OL

On a side note, does Sherels return kickoffs at all? He is a threat every time he touches the ball when he returns punts...

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First of all, thanks to 720Pete for starting this thread. I feel myself much more focused on draft talk than FA at this point. Personally, I would love for them to get one of those top lineman with the 2nd round pick but I don't think they'll fall that far. I find myself intrigued by Mixon at that pick but I think his draft stock is rising so I'm not sure he'll be there either. I know what he did is terrible and there's not excuse for it. But I'm trusting that the Vikes are doing due diligence to ensure he's turned a corner. If he's not there i truly think you just go best offensive player available. Of course, as history has shown slick Rick will probably move up a few spots to grab a player they really want. Should be a fun draft!!!


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Pondering Her Percy wrote:
Best case scenario for first 3 picks, IMO:

2nd round: Dan Feeney- OG Indiana (immediate starter at RG)
3rd round: Joe Mixon or Semaje Perine- RB Oklahoma (I hope they arent just relying on Murray)
3rd round: Somewhere on Defense. DT, OLB, NCB, S (Could use some depth/starters at those positions


This is basically how I did my "draft game" picks with Feeny, Mixon, and Dalvin Tomlinson as my first 3 picks. I'd change that to Melifonwu in a heartbeat if he's there but I seriously doubt it.


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There is a lot of depth at those two positions, as well as RB and G. I expect them to address all 4 of those positions...Could also use a DT, LB, and QB.


I gotcha. However the TE class is very deep this year too. And isn't as big of a need around the league compared to OL. I would probably be upset if we took a TE in the 2nd. We can get an athletic/pass catching TE later in the draft

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Round 2 Pick 16: Forrest Lamp, OG/OT, Western Kentucky (A)
Round 3 Pick 15: Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (A)
Round 3 Pick 22: Ryan Anderson, OLB/DE, Alabama (A-)
Round 4 Pick 15: Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Alabama (A+)
Round 4 Pick 22: Samaje Perine, RB, Oklahoma (A)
Round 5 Pick 16: Jonnu Smith, TE, Florida International (B)
Round 6 Pick 15: Jadar Johnson, SS, Clemson (B)
Round 7 Pick 14: Amba Etta-Tawo, WR, Syracuse (A-)


this is what I picked with making no draft moves or trades in the draft game

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This may have been covered and I missed it but what sites do you all use?

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The O line is in SUCH BAD SHAPE that if A TOM BRADY was available We would Still Need to draft O line with our first and 2nd pick. Any other move is pissing in the wind. Until these Office People LEARN that game is won in the trenches we will never get to a superbowl


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Round 2 Pick 16: Forrest Lamp, OG/OT, Western Kentucky (A)
Round 3 Pick 15: Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (A)
Round 3 Pick 22: Ryan Anderson, OLB/DE, Alabama (A-)
Round 4 Pick 15: Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Alabama (A+)
Round 4 Pick 22: Samaje Perine, RB, Oklahoma (A)
Round 5 Pick 16: Jonnu Smith, TE, Florida International (B)
Round 6 Pick 15: Jadar Johnson, SS, Clemson (B)
Round 7 Pick 14: Amba Etta-Tawo, WR, Syracuse (A-)


this is what I picked with making no draft moves or trades in the draft game


I like it but no way "I love Lamp" makes it to the middle of round 2. I would sub that spot out for Dan Feeney

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This may have been covered and I missed it but what sites do you all use?

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I like it but no way "I love Lamp" makes it to the middle of round 2. I would sub that spot out for Dan Feeney



I don't think any quality LT makes it out of the first round either.. too many teams need them in the NFL

I would either go OG or DT most likely if a guy like lamb didn't drop. the other thing to remember is we have

two third round picks and two fourth round picks. I wouldn't be surprised to see us jump back into the first

round or early second if Spielman and comapny want someone bad enough.

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