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Free agents nearly always get payed at the very least, a little more then they deserve, and the Vikings probably would rather find a guy who can actually play WR well then resign him.

I think you can only put so much value on kickoff returns and stuff.


True but Patterson did more this year; however, he also admitted to poor effort for several
seasons and he basically ignored the help Zimmer was trying to give him for a few seasons.

I am guessing that figures in heavy with Zimmer and the powers that be.


I think you hit the nail on the head there. Maybe given his past actions they're concerned he'd revert to that once he get's paid.


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CP doesn't run routes the way they need to in our system which dictates getting the ball out fast, he is though one of the most valuable guys we have on special teams.I watched him improve tremendously in the last two years on kickoff coverage, and we all know his value as a returner, he doesn't go down on first contact and still has elite speed.His agent is probably pricing him higher than what teams are willing to pay for his skill set and I hope we can retain him.


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After looking at contract details, I'm even more excited about #Vikings OL pickups. Reiff really a 3yr deal and Remmers yr to yr.


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After looking at contract details, I'm even more excited about #Vikings OL pickups. Reiff really a 3yr deal and Remmers yr to yr.


... and the prospect of short term solutions to big problems gets Ben Leber excited? ;)


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After looking at contract details, I'm even more excited about #Vikings OL pickups. Reiff really a 3yr deal and Remmers yr to yr.


... and the prospect of short term solutions to big problems gets Ben Leber excited? ;)


I think I get what he's saying though...but I feel like they paid too much for Reiff.


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After looking at contract details, I'm even more excited about #Vikings OL pickups. Reiff really a 3yr deal and Remmers yr to yr.


... and the prospect of short term solutions to big problems gets Ben Leber excited? ;)


Sounds like at least with Remmers they have him locked in but won't face a big cap hit if they need to let him go down the road.


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After looking at contract details, I'm even more excited about #Vikings OL pickups. Reiff really a 3yr deal and Remmers yr to yr.


... and the prospect of short term solutions to big problems gets Ben Leber excited? ;)


Sounds like at least with Remmers they have him locked in but won't face a big cap hit if they need to let him go down the road.


Yeah I like how they set those contracts up

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I'd much rather have CP than Michael fricken Floyd who we were rumored to be interested in. My guess is, CP wants more money than he's worth. He's been on 3 visits and hasn't signed. Maybe he'll take a hometown discount


Again, he is the only offensive player who consistently made plays last year (well Thielen I guess). McKinnon was hurt, Diggs was hurt, and I think he is an important piece to the Vikings puzzle.

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Patterson is now a Raider. I wish CP the best.

Way to go, Vikings. An All Pro returner who can catch passes, run out of the backfield, even be an outstanding punt gunner, plus he's a playmaker any time he touches the ball, but Rick and the gang pass on him. :evil:


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I'd much rather have CP than Michael fricken Floyd who we were rumored to be interested in. My guess is, CP wants more money than he's worth. He's been on 3 visits and hasn't signed. Maybe he'll take a hometown discount


Again, he is the only offensive player who consistently made plays last year (well Thielen I guess). McKinnon was hurt, Diggs was hurt, and I think he is an important piece to the Vikings puzzle.

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Patterson is now a Raider. I wish CP the best.

Way to go, Vikings. An All Pro returner who can catch passes, run out of the backfield, even be an outstanding punt gunner, plus he's a playmaker any time he touches the ball, but Rick and the gang pass on him. :evil:


We are the dumbest team in the league. We have a checkdown QB and the only player on the team that can actually turn a 3rd and 9, 2 yard checkdown in to a first down, we let go.


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Patterson is now a Raider. I wish CP the best.

Way to go, Vikings. An All Pro returner who can catch passes, run out of the backfield, even be an outstanding punt gunner, plus he's a playmaker any time he touches the ball, but Rick and the gang pass on him. :evil:


We are the dumbest team in the league. We have a checkdown QB and the only player on the team that can actually turn a 3rd and 9, 2 yard checkdown in to a first down, we let go.


I'd like to be more colorful with my language regarding how I feel about this insipid move by the Vikings, but I'll resist the urge.

I'll just say it pisses me off.

They sure as heck better get Thielen re-signed.


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Patterson is now a Raider. I wish CP the best.

Way to go, Vikings. An All Pro returner who can catch passes, run out of the backfield, even be an outstanding punt gunner, plus he's a playmaker any time he touches the ball, but Rick and the gang pass on him. :evil:


We are the dumbest team in the league. We have a checkdown QB and the only player on the team that can actually turn a 3rd and 9, 2 yard checkdown in to a first down, we let go.


I'd like to be more colorful with my language regarding how I feel about this insipid move by the Vikings, but I'll resist the urge.

I'll just say it pisses me off.

They sure as heck better get Thielen re-signed.


I've been wondering too about the lack of Thielen news. I guess its good that no one has swooped in to pick him up yet as he is a restricted free agent if I'm correct? What round tender did they give him? Second?


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losperros wrote:
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Patterson is now a Raider. I wish CP the best.

Way to go, Vikings. An All Pro returner who can catch passes, run out of the backfield, even be an outstanding punt gunner, plus he's a playmaker any time he touches the ball, but Rick and the gang pass on him. :evil:


We are the dumbest team in the league. We have a checkdown QB and the only player on the team that can actually turn a 3rd and 9, 2 yard checkdown in to a first down, we let go.


I'd like to be more colorful with my language regarding how I feel about this insipid move by the Vikings, but I'll resist the urge.

I'll just say it pisses me off.

They sure as heck better get Thielen re-signed.

Patterson could not have been expensive. This whole off-season has been really disappointing. I wonder what it will take for Wilf to realize what Spielman is doing.

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Patterson could not have been expensive. This whole off-season has been really disappointing. I wonder what it will take for Wilf to realize what Spielman is doing.

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My question is, what's so disappointing?? Guys complain we don't address OL and we did. And we lose a #4 WR and a nickel back and everyone wants to pull there hair out :confused:

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Agree. Replace CP with Dede Westbrook...explosive playmaker and returner. Will come cheap because of absurd off-field shenanigans, but a good kid. Heisman contender quality. 4.3 speed.


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And we lose a #4 WR and a nickel back and everyone wants to pull there hair out :confused:


This is the key point IMO. The Vikings actually have a good enough core of young talent that they could potentially run into cap problems for the first time in years trying to keep them all. You lose those guys when you spend 10 million combined a season on your KR/WR4 and your Nickel. Its not that they are bad players who couldn't contribute, but those positions need to be manned by young guys on rookie deals or else teams start to see their foundational players become too expensive to retain AND they haven't develpoed any young talent behind them to come in and play.


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And we lose a #4 WR and a nickel back and everyone wants to pull there hair out :confused:


This is the key point IMO. The Vikings actually have a good enough core of young talent that they could potentially run into cap problems for the first time in years trying to keep them all. You lose those guys when you spend 10 million combined a season on your KR/WR4 and your Nickel. Its not that they are bad players who couldn't contribute, but those positions need to be manned by young guys on rookie deals or else teams start to see their foundational players become too expensive to retain AND they haven't develpoed any young talent behind them to come in and play.


You're right Fiesta, we have talented drafted kids that are becoming playmakers.
I think Waynes really steps his game up and becomes a solid starter opposite Rhodes who NEEDS an extension !! Waynes will need one in 2 years also. Hunter, Barr, Kendricks are all players that we will also want to keep on a 2nd contract. Griffens current contract will expire in a couple years but probably will be renegotiated. Linval will be in a similar position. Diggs will want a new contract also as he has done nothing but produce.
Let's not forget, they might be saving their money this year to sign Bradford to a big deal after June 1 cap hits and use the extra cash for signing bonus ???


I expect Alexander to be able to step into the nickel spot and hopefully hold his own. What's Newman doing?


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And we lose a #4 WR and a nickel back and everyone wants to pull there hair out :confused:


This is the key point IMO. The Vikings actually have a good enough core of young talent that they could potentially run into cap problems for the first time in years trying to keep them all. You lose those guys when you spend 10 million combined a season on your KR/WR4 and your Nickel. Its not that they are bad players who couldn't contribute, but those positions need to be manned by young guys on rookie deals or else teams start to see their foundational players become too expensive to retain AND they haven't develpoed any young talent behind them to come in and play.


You're right Fiesta, we have talented drafted kids that are becoming playmakers.
I think Waynes really steps his game up and becomes a solid starter opposite Rhodes who NEEDS an extension !! Waynes will need one in 2 years also. Hunter, Barr, Kendricks are all players that we will also want to keep on a 2nd contract. Griffens current contract will expire in a couple years but probably will be renegotiated. Linval will be in a similar position. Diggs will want a new contract also as he has done nothing but produce.
Let's not forget, they might be saving their money this year to sign Bradford to a big deal after June 1 cap hits and use the extra cash for signing bonus ???


I expect Alexander to be able to step into the nickel spot and hopefully hold his own. What's Newman doing?


Exactly. Every year guys want huge splashes. We addressed the OL quite well in the first wave which EVERYONE was asking for. They did. We have looked into many other FA's. Robey Coleman would be a great fit in the slot, Cook would be great depth behind Rudy, Webb adds good CB/S depth, Datone Jones adds good depth along the front 7, Murray is a solid RB, PLUS we got the draft. Some fans need to take a chill pill

I could give two craps about Audie Cole, Rhett Ellison, given the route we went Matt Kalil, Charles Johnson, etc. Yeah It sucks losing Cap and CP but it's not like they're big time FA's like Zeitler, Wagner, Buoye, Gilmore, etc. When was the last time we let a big time FA walk?????? And guys sit here and say Spielman isn't very good at his job partly in due to us losing guys this offseason???

Imagine being a team like Cincy where you lose BOTH, not one, BOTH of their best OL because they have too much money tied up in other unnecessary areas. That's what Spielman is avoiding. He wouldn't never let guys like Harrison Smith, Rhodes, etc walk. Other teams have done this. You guys just want to sit there and act like he does nothing and doesn't know how to do his job partly due to us not resigning Cordarrelle Patterson?? Seriously? Give the guy some credit for once my god.

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Exactly. Every year guys want huge splashes. We addressed the OL quite well in the first wave which EVERYONE was asking for. They did. We have looked into many other FA's. Robey Coleman would be a great fit in the slot, Cook would be great depth behind Rudy, Webb adds good CB/S depth, Datone Jones adds good depth along the front 7, Murray is a solid RB, PLUS we got the draft. Some fans need to take a chill pill

I could give two craps about Audie Cole, Rhett Ellison, given the route we went Matt Kalil, Charles Johnson, etc. Yeah It sucks losing Cap and CP but it's not like they're big time FA's like Zeitler, Wagner, Buoye, Gilmore, etc. When was the last time we let a big time FA walk?????? And guys sit here and say Spielman isn't very good at his job partly in due to us losing guys this offseason???

Imagine being a team like Cincy where you lose BOTH, not one, BOTH of their best OL because they have too much money tied up in other unnecessary areas. That's what Spielman is avoiding. He wouldn't never let guys like Harrison Smith, Rhodes, etc walk. Other teams have done this. You guys just want to sit there and act like he does nothing and doesn't know how to do his job partly due to us not resigning Cordarrelle Patterson?? Seriously?



I get the point, and I'm not trying to get into a spat with you, but you should re-read what you wrote and reflect if there is a way to come across a little more 'Minnesota nice'. :v):


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And we lose a #4 WR and a nickel back and everyone wants to pull there hair out :confused:


This is the key point IMO. The Vikings actually have a good enough core of young talent that they could potentially run into cap problems for the first time in years trying to keep them all. You lose those guys when you spend 10 million combined a season on your KR/WR4 and your Nickel. Its not that they are bad players who couldn't contribute, but those positions need to be manned by young guys on rookie deals or else teams start to see their foundational players become too expensive to retain AND they haven't develpoed any young talent behind them to come in and play.



Very well said!


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I've been wondering too about the lack of Thielen news. I guess its good that no one has swooped in to pick him up yet as he is a restricted free agent if I'm correct? What round tender did they give him? Second?


Yup 2nd round tender.


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Exactly. Every year guys want huge splashes. We addressed the OL quite well in the first wave which EVERYONE was asking for. They did. We have looked into many other FA's. Robey Coleman would be a great fit in the slot, Cook would be great depth behind Rudy, Webb adds good CB/S depth, Datone Jones adds good depth along the front 7, Murray is a solid RB, PLUS we got the draft. Some fans need to take a chill pill

I could give two craps about Audie Cole, Rhett Ellison, given the route we went Matt Kalil, Charles Johnson, etc. Yeah It sucks losing Cap and CP but it's not like they're big time FA's like Zeitler, Wagner, Buoye, Gilmore, etc. When was the last time we let a big time FA walk?????? And guys sit here and say Spielman isn't very good at his job partly in due to us losing guys this offseason???

Imagine being a team like Cincy where you lose BOTH, not one, BOTH of their best OL because they have too much money tied up in other unnecessary areas. That's what Spielman is avoiding. He wouldn't never let guys like Harrison Smith, Rhodes, etc walk. Other teams have done this. You guys just want to sit there and act like he does nothing and doesn't know how to do his job partly due to us not resigning Cordarrelle Patterson?? Seriously?



I get the point, and I'm not trying to get into a spat with you, but you should re-read what you wrote and reflect if there is a way to come across a little more 'Minnesota nice'. :v):


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Exactly. Every year guys want huge splashes. We addressed the OL quite well in the first wave which EVERYONE was asking for. They did. We have looked into many other FA's. Robey Coleman would be a great fit in the slot, Cook would be great depth behind Rudy, Webb adds good CB/S depth, Datone Jones adds good depth along the front 7, Murray is a solid RB, PLUS we got the draft. Some fans need to take a chill pill

I could give two craps about Audie Cole, Rhett Ellison, given the route we went Matt Kalil, Charles Johnson, etc. Yeah It sucks losing Cap and CP but it's not like they're big time FA's like Zeitler, Wagner, Buoye, Gilmore, etc. When was the last time we let a big time FA walk?????? And guys sit here and say Spielman isn't very good at his job partly in due to us losing guys this offseason???

Imagine being a team like Cincy where you lose BOTH, not one, BOTH of their best OL because they have too much money tied up in other unnecessary areas. That's what Spielman is avoiding. He wouldn't never let guys like Harrison Smith, Rhodes, etc walk. Other teams have done this. You guys just want to sit there and act like he does nothing and doesn't know how to do his job partly due to us not resigning Cordarrelle Patterson?? Seriously?



I get the point, and I'm not trying to get into a spat with you, but you should re-read what you wrote and reflect if there is a way to come across a little more 'Minnesota nice'. :v):


:lol: I get what you're saying. It's just every year there is some kind of freakout over who we sign and don't sign in FA. I know I got like that with Wagner but the more I look at, I'd rather have Reiff and Remmers vs just having Wagner so I was definitely wrong there. Usually every year I'm one of the guys saying relax and let Spielman take his course. I just really wanted Wagner but I like what we have now. Plus I really like what we're going after in this second wave like Robey Coleman, Cook, Webb, Jones, Murray, etc.

Hey it puts a dent in my offseason mocks :lol: I had us signing Wagner, Omemeh and Okafor who all signed with other teams. I usually hit on one FA :|

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I think people need to realize at a certain point you need to cut ties with certain players when you have high round people waiting in the wings. Alexander was a 2nd rounder and should be an upgrade to Captain. Treadwell was a 1st rounder and should be an upgrade to Patterson. Operative word here is should. But that's the way it works, the cap doesn't allow teams to hold onto everyone so at some point your young guys need to step up.

Yes, Patterson was also a 1st rounder and it sucks that he didn't pan out but at least the contingency isn't unknown. The offseason is where tough decisions need to be made, while no one has been re-signed yet, lets not forget they brought in two new tackles, which is pretty huge.


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I think people need to realize at a certain point you need to cut ties with certain players when you have high round people waiting in the wings. Alexander was a 2nd rounder and should be an upgrade to Captain. Treadwell was a 1st rounder and should be an upgrade to Patterson. Operative word here is should. But that's the way it works, the cap doesn't allow teams to hold onto everyone so at some point your young guys need to step up.

Yes, Patterson was also a 1st rounder and it sucks that he didn't pan out but at least the contingency isn't unknown. The offseason is where tough decisions need to be made, while no one has been re-signed yet, lets not forget they brought in two new tackles, which is pretty huge.


Exactly. Well said!

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I think people need to realize at a certain point you need to cut ties with certain players when you have high round people waiting in the wings. Alexander was a 2nd rounder and should be an upgrade to Captain. Treadwell was a 1st rounder and should be an upgrade to Patterson. Operative word here is should. But that's the way it works, the cap doesn't allow teams to hold onto everyone so at some point your young guys need to step up.

Yes, Patterson was also a 1st rounder and it sucks that he didn't pan out but at least the contingency isn't unknown. The offseason is where tough decisions need to be made, while no one has been re-signed yet, lets not forget they brought in two new tackles, which is pretty huge.


Huge? Well, thanks to some serious mismanagement they desperately needed tackles so I guess it's hue in the sense that they actually have more qualified players for those positions now. However, let's also not forget, in a discussion about the importance of a team keeping their young guys, that those 2 tackles are young guys and their previous teams decided they were no longer needed. The Lions seemed perfectly happy to let Reiff, a former first round pick, walk after his rookie contract. As far as I've been able to determine, the Panthers showed no interest in keeping Remmers at all and both Reiff and Remmers are healthy and in their prime.

The departure of Patterson is disappointing to me because I thought he brought serious value to the team as a special teams player and he emerged last year from whatever doghouse they had him locked in and played well. I felt he was worth keeping for another season or two, especially since the offense appears to moving in a direction in which his skills and talent could be very valuable. Of course, like Reiff, he's a former first round pick whose team seemed happy to let him walk so that tells us something about how both players were ultimately viewed by the teams that drafted them.


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I've been wondering too about the lack of Thielen news. I guess its good that no one has swooped in to pick him up yet as he is a restricted free agent if I'm correct? What round tender did they give him? Second?


Yup 2nd round tender.


Cool, thanks!


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I'll wait and see on the o-line moves.
it seems last season they signed two o-line FAs in Boone and Smith.

I could probably swing a dead cat and hit two tackles that can outperform what was on the field last year. It's really hard to tell what they have on the line until there is some overall systemic and health stability...unless it's guys who should not be playing anywhere like clemmings, in my opinion.


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Vikings sign Datone Jones

Solid signing. Good depth up front!

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Vikings sign Datone Jones

Solid signing. Good depth up front!


I keep seeing him listed as a DE which is interesting given we have 3 good DEs and on the heels of losing Greenways leadership I dont think they'd cut ties with Robison. I like the idea of putting him at either 3 technique or strong side LB. I will be really interested to see how they use him.


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Vikings sign Datone Jones

Solid signing. Good depth up front!


I keep seeing him listed as a DE which is interesting given we have 3 good DEs and on the heels of losing Greenways leadership I dont think they'd cut ties with Robison. I like the idea of putting him at either 3 technique or strong side LB. I will be really interested to see how they use him.


Listening to his introduction to the Twin Cities media, sounds like he'll be DL, and definitely be playing some 3 Tech. Sounds like he met Zimmer and coach Andre Patterson and got a real sense of the role they have for him.


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