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Scott Crichton, DE, Buffalo

Scott Crichton has been claimed by the Buffalo Bills.

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I know I'm not really part of the discussion but I absolutely think trades for players in the draft should count when considering how the Vikings did in a given draft. It's still the value that was earned via draft picks. Otherwise, in the case of Allen for example, it's as if the team never had a 1st round pick that year. If you discount those players it can make a given draft look a lot worse than it really was.

Allen being established doesn't mean him playing well is a given. He had character issues, etc. He could have easily been a "bust". Just as Bradford could end up being a "bust" for this year's first. You're still basically drafting with that pick, you're just drafting a player already in the league. Whether they preform well, how long they stay with the team, etc. These are all still considerations when thinking about the value that the team got for a given pick.

Of course if the conversation is about how the team is doing at developing a player that's one thing.


That's the conversation I'm trying to have...

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If we're talking draft value, that's another.


Exactly. It's a different subject. :)


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There's a good chance over 50% of the first round picks of the Spielman era won't even make it to a second contract with the team and there haven't been enough quality finds in subsequent rounds, although there have been some.


Lets take a look at the Super Bowl champs over the same period:

Laurence Maroney - Traded to the Broncos after going on injured reserve. Subsequently released.
Brandon Meriweather - Impressive start but did not make it past his 1st contract. Signed w/ Bears.
Jerod Mayo - Solid player, definite hit and long term Patriot until he retired
Devin McCourty - Re-signed with the Pats and is Co-captain
Nate Solder - Starting LT
Chandler Jones - Traded to the Cardinals, some past drug issues
Donta Hightower - Replaced Mayo and signed to contract extension
Dominique Easley - Released and signed by the Rams
Malcolm Brown - In his second season

They're roughly at a 50% hit rate by the same criteria. Just one other team but I figured I'd take the best team and see how they stack up.


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Mothman wrote:
There's a good chance over 50% of the first round picks of the Spielman era won't even make it to a second contract with the team and there haven't been enough quality finds in subsequent rounds, although there have been some.


Lets take a look at the Super Bowl champs over the same period:

Laurence Maroney - Traded to the Broncos after going on injured reserve. Subsequently released.
Brandon Meriweather - Impressive start but did not make it past his 1st contract. Signed w/ Bears.
Jerod Mayo - Solid player, definite hit and long term Patriot until he retired
Devin McCourty - Re-signed with the Pats and is Co-captain
Nate Solder - Starting LT
Chandler Jones - Traded to the Cardinals, some past drug issues
Donta Hightower - Replaced Mayo and signed to contract extension
Dominique Easley - Released and signed by the Rams
Malcolm Brown - In his second season

They're roughly at a 50% hit rate by the same criteria. Just one other team but I figured I'd take the best team and see how they stack up.


I genuinely appreciate the effort but the entire point of my initial statement was that the team needs to hit on more draft picks overall, not just in the first round.That statement didn't seem controversial to me when I wrote it so I'm not sure why it's encountering so much resistance. Does anyone really think the Vikings don't need better results in this area?


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I didn't realize Audie Cole was gone ... I always liked him

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Mothman wrote:
There's a good chance over 50% of the first round picks of the Spielman era won't even make it to a second contract with the team and there haven't been enough quality finds in subsequent rounds, although there have been some.


Lets take a look at the Super Bowl champs over the same period:

Laurence Maroney - Traded to the Broncos after going on injured reserve. Subsequently released.
Brandon Meriweather - Impressive start but did not make it past his 1st contract. Signed w/ Bears.
Jerod Mayo - Solid player, definite hit and long term Patriot until he retired
Devin McCourty - Re-signed with the Pats and is Co-captain
Nate Solder - Starting LT
Chandler Jones - Traded to the Cardinals, some past drug issues
Donta Hightower - Replaced Mayo and signed to contract extension
Dominique Easley - Released and signed by the Rams
Malcolm Brown - In his second season

They're roughly at a 50% hit rate by the same criteria. Just one other team but I figured I'd take the best team and see how they stack up.


I genuinely appreciate the effort but the entire point of my initial statement was that the team needs to hit on more draft picks overall, not just in the first round.That statement didn't seem controversial to me when I wrote it so I'm not sure why it's encountering so much resistance. Does anyone really think the Vikings don't need better results in this area?


No argument from me on that front (hitting on more overall). To be honest, I initially asked the question about other teams and curiosity got the best of me so I decided to dig a little. Again, it's anecdotal but I figured the Pats were a good proxy to use because of their success.

For me, I think the Vikings have done well early in the draft, I think the deficiency is in the mid and late rounds. They have hit on guys like Griffen, Diggs, etc., but I think they need to do better. I'm not expecting a Richard Sherman or Tom Brady (although it would be nice!) but it would be good if they could find more role players in some of the day 3 picks.


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I didn't realize Audie Cole was gone ... I always liked him



Me too.....I hope he earns a starting position.


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Scott Crichton, DE, Waivers

PFT is reporting that former Vikings DE Scott Crichton has failed his physical with the Buffalo Bills. He was subsequently put back on waivers.

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Minnesota Vikings Transactions - 3/30/17

Tom Pelissero of USA Today is reporting that the Vikings signed three players who participated in the Pro Combine: TE Nick Truesdell, WR Mitch Matthews, and DB Terrell Sinkfield

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Just posted an article. DT is a big need if true. I don't think the ex-packer can hold up.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf ... /99838030/


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Just posted an article. DT is a big need if true. I don't think the ex-packer can hold up.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf ... /99838030/


Man, that's rough :(


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How were they able to sign guys before the draft?

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Just posted an article. DT is a big need if true. I don't think the ex-packer can hold up.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf ... /99838030/


Man, that's rough :(



that's brutal. I think I made a comment weeks ago suggesting he was "milking" the Vikings for the extra contract. Now I feel really bad about that

And maybe I was reading too much into things, but it really seemed like zimmer was downplaying the injury and almost suggesting Floyd was sandbagging.


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Feel bad for Floyd. I hope he can overcome this somehow.


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Scott Crichton, DE, Waivers

PFT is reporting that former Vikings DE Scott Crichton has failed his physical with the Buffalo Bills. He was subsequently put back on waivers.

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Minnesota Vikings Transactions - 3/30/17

Tom Pelissero of USA Today is reporting that the Vikings signed three players who participated in the Pro Combine: TE Nick Truesdell, WR Mitch Matthews, and DB Terrell Sinkfield

(Source: Tom Pelissero)



Mitch Matthews. 6' 6". Does he have a chance to make the team? Can see him helping in the redzone.

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Just posted an article. DT is a big need if true. I don't think the ex-packer can hold up.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf ... /99838030/



Wow, that's terrible news. It certainly sheds light on Floyd's heartfelt Instagram post the other day. I hope his career isn't over and more importantly, I hope this heals sooner rather than later just for his quality of life.


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that's brutal. I think I made a comment weeks ago suggesting he was "milking" the Vikings for the extra contract. Now I feel really bad about that

And maybe I was reading too much into things, but it really seemed like zimmer was downplaying the injury and almost suggesting Floyd was sandbagging.


I had the same impression last year.


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How were they able to sign guys before the draft?

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It was a pro combine. They aren't college players

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Looks like we could be taking a DT in the 2nd now with the Floyd news. Unless they think Datone Jones can get the job done. Sucks to hear about Floyd. This must be news to them as well because I don't know why else they would pick up his option

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How were they able to sign guys before the draft?

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It was a pro combine. They aren't college players

Oh I see.

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Looks like we could be taking a DT in the 2nd now with the Floyd news. Unless they think Datone Jones can get the job done. Sucks to hear about Floyd. This must be news to them as well because I don't know why else they would pick up his option

The decision was made May 2016.


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Case Keenum, QB, Vikings

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... h-vikings/

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Via Mark Berman of FOX 26 in Houston, veteran quarterback Case Keenum has signed with the Vikings.

The former University of Houston standout and one-time Texan started nine games for the Rams in 2016, after signing a one-year restricted free agency tender. He became an unrestricted free agent on March 9.

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Case Keenum, QB, Vikings

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... h-vikings/

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Via Mark Berman of FOX 26 in Houston, veteran quarterback Case Keenum has signed with the Vikings.

The former University of Houston standout and one-time Texan started nine games for the Rams in 2016, after signing a one-year restricted free agency tender. He became an unrestricted free agent on March 9.



Thanks for the info!

The PP says it's a one year contract worth $2 million.

http://www.twincities.com/2017/03/31/vi ... ds-backup/


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Love the Keenum signing. Has some starting experience and still fairly young. Good move by Spielman

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Not bad, I thought they might go with a cheaper option like Keenum. He's an accurate passer (~60%) but needs to cut down on turnovers. Not starting caliber by any means but hopefully can fill in a few games in a pinch.


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Case Keenum, QB, Vikings

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... h-vikings/

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Via Mark Berman of FOX 26 in Houston, veteran quarterback Case Keenum has signed with the Vikings.

The former University of Houston standout and one-time Texan started nine games for the Rams in 2016, after signing a one-year restricted free agency tender. He became an unrestricted free agent on March 9.

Well, this shot my April fools joke straight in the butt. Was going to post that we resigned Ponder. Is Rick finally getting it right? He's done some surprising stuff in the past year. Very un-Viking like.

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All I know is, id much rather have Keenum than Shaun Hill

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All I know is, id much rather have Keenum than Shaun Hill


Agreed. Hill at 36 just couldn't be trusted to be a Number two QB.

That being said, this signing is no different than the typical Vikings back-up QB signing: Shaun Hill, Matt Cassel, Sage Rosenfels, Gus Frerotte, etc.

It's just, meh.

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Thats what most backup qb signings are! They are meh.


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All I know is, id much rather have Keenum than Shaun Hill


Agreed. Hill at 36 just couldn't be trusted to be a Number two QB.

That being said, this signing is no different than the typical Vikings back-up QB signing: Shaun Hill, Matt Cassel, Sage Rosenfels, Gus Frerotte, etc.

It's just, meh.

Boy, that's a whole lot of meh! I shake my head, ya know?

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Case Keenum, QB, Vikings

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... h-vikings/

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Via Mark Berman of FOX 26 in Houston, veteran quarterback Case Keenum has signed with the Vikings.

The former University of Houston standout and one-time Texan started nine games for the Rams in 2016, after signing a one-year restricted free agency tender. He became an unrestricted free agent on March 9.



Thanks for the info!

The PP says it's a one year contract worth $2 million.

http://www.twincities.com/2017/03/31/vi ... ds-backup/

Dang!

With just a little creativity, we could have been one tweaked ankle from The Big Sourpuss (a.k.a. Jay-Z Cutler) commanding the Vikings' huddle.

Stupid Spielman.

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