2017 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes, etc)

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Re: 2017 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Post by halfgiz » Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:12 pm

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Sam Bradford sat out team drills, most throws today. "Muscle tightness," says Mike Zimmer. Believes he'll be back throwing tomorrow



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Marshall Koehn, competing at kicker with Kai Forbath, has looked pretty solid through three OTAs open to reporters. Legit battle there.
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Re: 2017 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Post by dead_poet » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:32 pm

Rick today:

On Decker: "We look at everybody but we feel pretty confident with our receivers."

On backup QB: "There's a battle between Keenum and Heinicke."

On kicker competition: "Right now it's a heated battle. It will be a big training camp battle. But watch out for Koehn [go Hawks!] he has a chance to be pretty special."

On Teddy: basically no timeline due to severity and rare injury. Will need to be cleared by medical staff [duh]

On Eagen facility: "Will be state-of-the-art and best facility that I know of in the NFL."
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Post by 808vikingsfan » Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:14 pm

Minicamp Day 1

1. Robinson vying for starting spot
Edmond Robinson built off a strong few weeks of Organized Team Activity practices by having a solid outing on the first day of minicamp.
Robinson, who has lined up next to Anthony Barr and Eric Kendricks with the first-team defense for much of the offseason program, is aiming for the starting spot vacated by the retired Chad Greenway. The third-year linebacker and Emmanuel Lamur took reps with the first team base defense on Tuesday.
Robinson impressed Tuesday by leaping up to knock away a pass inside the 10-yard line in a red zone drill.
Robinson saved his best for later by perfectly reading a Taylor Heinicke pass, corralling the interception and racing the other way.

2. Vikings kicking pair aims true
Vikings kickers Kai Forbath and Marshall Koehn continued their kicking battle Tuesday by both knocking down every field goal they attempted.
The duo each hit from 37, 41 and 43 yards during team drills, while Forbath made a 45-yard try and Koehn drilled a 46-yard attempt.
Forbath had one an extra chance later on during a hurry-up session and nailed a 42-yard try with less than two minutes left on the clock.
Forbath has made 17 of 19 field goals in team drills this spring, while Koehn has been successful on 14 of his 16 attempts.

3. A vet move
Vikings cornerback Terence Newman has seen a thing or two as he enters his 15th professional season.
The veteran provided a lighthearted moment Tuesday during a team drill after a referee threw a flag for defensive pass interference.
Newman, on the sideline during the play, ran over and picked up the flag before jogging back toward the sideline. The former first-round pick then playfully tossed the flag back to the official and had a laugh with him.


Catch of the Day
Vikings wide receiver Stefon Diggs made one of the most impressive catches of the spring Tuesday when he made a tumbling catch on a deep pass from quarterback Sam Bradford.
Diggs adjusted his body position on cornerback Xavier Rhodes before twisting back to secure the catch despite sprawling to the ground.
An incredulous Rhodes playfully tried to slap the ball away from Diggs after the play, but the wide receiver was able to celebrate his impressive snag.


3 Observations: Edmond Robinson Impressed at Day 1 of Minicamp
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Re: 2017 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Post by S197 » Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:03 pm

Seen a few reports that Clemmings has been moved to RG.
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Re: 2017 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Post by halfgiz » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:22 pm

S197 wrote:Seen a few reports that Clemmings has been moved to RG.

Gee another year another position for Clemmings.
I'm not even sure Elfein will beat Easton out at center. Then where does Elfein move to?
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Re: 2017 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Post by S197 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:28 pm

halfgiz wrote:
Gee another year another position for Clemmings.
I'm not even sure Elfein will beat Easton out at center. Then where does Elfein move to?
Elflein will remain at center, either as the starter or backup to Easton. He played guard as well at OSU so he provides versatility but they'll probably want him to stick to one position for now. My guess is center is really the only position up for grabs in camp in terms of who will be the starter. Clemmings has a lot of competition for a backup guard spot as Kerin, Sirles, Isidora, Beavers, and Tagaloa are all in the mix. Plus Easton/Elflein depending who wins that battle.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Easton get the nod over Elflein to begin the season. It's hard to say when they haven't even put the pads on but reports are that center is tasked with a lot more protection calls in the Vikings offense vs OSU.
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Re: 2017 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Post by halfgiz » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:04 am

S197 wrote: Elflein will remain at center, either as the starter or backup to Easton. He played guard as well at OSU so he provides versatility but they'll probably want him to stick to one position for now. My guess is center is really the only position up for grabs in camp in terms of who will be the starter. Clemmings has a lot of competition for a backup guard spot as Kerin, Sirles, Isidora, Beavers, and Tagaloa are all in the mix. Plus Easton/Elflein depending who wins that battle.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Easton get the nod over Elflein to begin the season. It's hard to say when they haven't even put the pads on but reports are that center is tasked with a lot more protection calls in the Vikings offense vs OSU.
I think right now Easton's advantage is his 3 years experience in the league. Plus he is bigger than Elfein
I do believe it will be a good competition.
I agree with what your saying. It also will be interesting to see who emerges as the backup tackles in training camp.
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Re: 2017 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Post by S197 » Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:21 pm

halfgiz wrote:
I think right now Easton's advantage is his 3 years experience in the league. Plus he is bigger than Elfein
I do believe it will be a good competition.
I agree with what your saying. It also will be interesting to see who emerges as the backup tackles in training camp.
Easton definitely has the advantage, I believe he saw time in 11 games last year and started in 5. Not all at center but that's valuable experience Elflein doesn't have yet. Ideally they both turn out to be good as Berger probably only has a year left in the tank.
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Post by HardcoreVikesFan » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:11 pm

If Easton is the opening day starter then I will be extremely disappointed. Easton is not a good player. Has everyone already forgot one of the worst snaps in NFL history?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-high ... g-turnover
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Post by PurpleKoolaid » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:10 am

HardcoreVikesFan wrote:If Easton is the opening day starter then I will be extremely disappointed. Easton is not a good player. Has everyone already forgot one of the worst snaps in NFL history?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-high ... g-turnover
I agree. It would be a bad sign.
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Post by Pondering Her Percy » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:49 am

I really dont think Easton is that bad. He's a middling talent/decent to solid depth piece. One bad snap shouldnt be the "end all be all" for Easton. Outside of that snap, I thought he played fairly decent last year for just being thrown in there. Does anyone else remember how horrid Matt Birk was the first year or two he was at center??? Not saying this guy is the next Matt Birk or anything but the guy just saw his first real in game action last year. I notice that a lot of fans on this forum are so unbelievably quick to judge. It really drives me nuts at times. Not trying to offend anyone because everyone is different but from the "Treadwell is a bust" to "Waynes is a bust" to "Easton is not a good player, look at his one bad snap", to "Linval Joseph is just a fat guy with a bullet in his leg" to "Captain Munnerlyn is a midget that cant cover". Get my point now?? Pretty much everyone I mentioned above has proved the "quick to judge" fans wrong or on the verge of being wrong. No less it was all in their FIRST years playing in the NFL or playing for us.

Captain got that label his first year with us.
Linval got that label his first year with us.
Treadwell got that label his rookie year.
Waynes got that label his rookie year.
Easton got that label his first year seeing playing time.

There's a common trend here. Let's give the guys some time before we just say who's good and who's bad their first years in the league or on this team. Otherwise you're just digging yourself your own hole and will be eating crow before you know it. Everyone is obviously entitled to their own opinion but at the same time, your own opinion is going to continue to bite you the more you're so quick to judge. This isnt directed at anyone specifically, I'm just saying this in general. I dont want to offend anyone.
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Re: 2017 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Post by Rock45 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:17 pm

Looky what I found:




Hopefully we see some of that this year.
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Post by HardcoreVikesFan » Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:46 am

Pondering Her Percy wrote: This isnt directed at anyone specifically, I'm just saying this in general. I dont want to offend anyone.

It is. You are just not using anyone's name. You literally labeled me as a 'bad fan' using the premise of my post above. You are continually passive aggressive on this board and continually belittle fans who don't agree with you. It gets old.

I am not willing to label myself as a fan who is quick to judge. I mentioned the snap because 1). It was abysmal 2). It killed our momentum in the GB game. It was all downhill from that play. PFF gave him a 45.9 grade this season (PFF isn't my cup of tea - just pointing it out). We consistently struggled to pick up the blitz with him on the field (a center's line call contributes significantly to blitz pick-up). When he was the center we couldn't successfully run up the gut or score on the goal line consistently (play directed though the center/guard position).

To me, Easton cannot be labeled anything more than a below-average center.
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Post by IIsweet » Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:21 am

Maybe so but Easton was starting for the first time last year. Obviously he will make mistakes, but with Elflein being drafted, I am pretty sure that the competitive nature has kicked in and Easton is working harder than everto not only improve his weaknesses but his overall game. A defense exploits your weaknesses. Hard to fix on the fly, but an offseason is perfect. Thus, I expect Easton to be much improved.
I am liking the OL. I am expecting Reiff and Remmers to be solid. Boone will be much better with Reiff beside him. Berger will be solid and then we have good backups.
I like the Isidora pick. I hope that he pans out. We need to get contributions from the drafted OL.
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Re: 2017 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,

Post by 808vikingsfan » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:12 pm

IIsweet wrote:Maybe so but Easton was starting for the first time last year. Obviously he will make mistakes, but with Elflein being drafted, I am pretty sure that the competitive nature has kicked in and Easton is working harder than everto not only improve his weaknesses but his overall game. A defense exploits your weaknesses. Hard to fix on the fly, but an offseason is perfect. Thus, I expect Easton to be much improved.
I am liking the OL. I am expecting Reiff and Remmers to be solid. Boone will be much better with Reiff beside him. Berger will be solid and then we have good backups.
I like the Isidora pick. I hope that he pans out. We need to get contributions from the drafted OL.
I always thought that your OL is only as good as your weakest link. OL can be much more effective with 5 average linemen vs 4 all pro's and 1 Clemmings/Charlie Johnson type player.

I think we will finally see what it's like to have some time in the pocket.
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