PHP's "Early Bird Gets the Worm" Mock Offseason

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Re: PHP's "Early Bird Gets the Worm" Mock Offseason

Post by Husker Vike » Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:09 pm

I don't think Beavers is ready to start, he is not even close to being as good as Sirles,

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Re: PHP's "Early Bird Gets the Worm" Mock Offseason

Post by PurpleMustReign » Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:34 pm

Husker Vike wrote:I don't think Beavers is ready to start, he is not even close to being as good as Sirles,
I thought Sirles played quite well this season. I am also not ready to give up on Clemmings, but I am fast running out of patience with him.

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PurpleMustReign wrote: I thought Sirles played quite well this season. I am also not ready to give up on Clemmings, but I am fast running out of patience with him.

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I'm not sure why but I feel like he would be much better at guard. He's a pretty strong guy and won't have to deal with speedy edge rushers which won't cause him to dip his head so much
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Post by VikingLord » Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:56 pm

PurpleMustReign wrote: I thought Sirles played quite well this season. I am also not ready to give up on Clemmings, but I am fast running out of patience with him.

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I thought Sirles had his good and bad moments. He has some room to grow and I think he could develop.

Maybe Clemmings would be better at guard. He doesn't look like he's an NFL tackle to me.

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Post by IrishViking » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:53 am

VikingLord wrote: I thought Sirles had his good and bad moments. He has some room to grow and I think he could develop.

Maybe Clemmings would be better at guard. He doesn't look like he's an NFL tackle to me.

Are you thinking Night shift or Day shift? He would probably need desk duty, doesn't look good on his feet.

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IrishViking wrote:
Are you thinking Night shift or Day shift? He would probably need desk duty, doesn't look good on his feet.
Thanks for the laugh. That was funny.

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Post by halfgiz » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:19 pm

VikingLord wrote: I thought Sirles had his good and bad moments. He has some room to grow and I think he could develop.

Maybe Clemmings would be better at guard. He doesn't look like he's an NFL tackle to me.
I think that Sirles is better suited at guard. He was only playing tackle because we had no one. But I agree he didn't do to bad of a job.

Ryan Ramczyk has a hip problem...The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, citing unnamed NFL personnel, reported earlier this week that Ramczyk would undergo arthroscopic surgery to repair a torn labrum in his hip after Wisconsin's appearance in the Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic.
The same procedure that Kalil had done. Not sure if we want a younger kalil.

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Post by Pondering Her Percy » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:59 pm

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Ryan Ramczyk has a hip problem...The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, citing unnamed NFL personnel, reported earlier this week that Ramczyk would undergo arthroscopic surgery to repair a torn labrum in his hip after Wisconsin's appearance in the Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic.
The same procedure that Kalil had done. Not sure if we want a younger kalil.
Yes it looks like he will need surgery. Thats why I had him falling. I think it's good value in the 2nd if he's healthy.

Just because he has a tear in his hip doesnt mean he's "another Kalil". Kalil had the injury AFTER he's struggled for the past few years.
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Post by Texas Vike » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:01 am

Pondering Her Percy wrote: Yes it looks like he will need surgery. Thats why I had him falling. I think it's good value in the 2nd if he's healthy.

Just because he has a tear in his hip doesnt mean he's "another Kalil". Kalil had the injury AFTER he's struggled for the past few years.
True, but I think most suspect, like I do, that the injury that necessitated surgery is a major factor in the dip in his quality of play.

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Post by Pondering Her Percy » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:22 am

Texas Vike wrote: True, but I think most suspect, like I do, that the injury that necessitated surgery is a major factor in the dip in his quality of play.
His hip injury occurred this year. He's had other nagging injuries like toe, knee, etc. but this hip injury wasnt a factor until this year
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Re: PHP's "Early Bird Gets the Worm" Mock Offseason

Post by Grashopa » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:47 am

I am not against brining Kalil back, but he cannot be the highest paid tackle in the league, that is for sure.

I don't really understand why you want to get rid of Locke, I haven't looked at stats, but at a glance he seemed to have the best season of his career this year and is on an upward trajectory.

I am interested in hearing If/When we will have Harris back on OL.
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Post by Texas Vike » Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:12 pm

Pondering Her Percy wrote: His hip injury occurred this year. He's had other nagging injuries like toe, knee, etc. but this hip injury wasnt a factor until this year
My bad. But my point still stands--his performance has regressed due to nagging injuries. The question is: do we want to draft another LT with questionable health?

I don't. I'd look elsewhere.

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Post by halfgiz » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:56 pm

Grashopa wrote:I am not against brining Kalil back, but he cannot be the highest paid tackle in the league, that is for sure.

I don't really understand why you want to get rid of Locke, I haven't looked at stats, but at a glance he seemed to have the best season of his career this year and is on an upward trajectory.

I am interested in hearing If/When we will have Harris back on OL.
Here is what our PFF line grades were this year. With Clemming being the lowest rated tackle out of all NFL LT's
Clemmings 28.2

Kalil 36.9

Smith 39.3

Fusco 52.0

Berger 85.0

Boone 76.5

Sirles 70.3

Anything below 50 is really pretty bad.

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Re: PHP's "Early Bird Gets the Worm" Mock Offseason

Post by S197 » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:28 pm

Sirles and Easton showed potential. Hopefully one or both can improve to a solid depth player or perhaps a starter. Frankly, I'm done with Clemmings, I think it's time to cut the losses and move on.

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Re: PHP's "Early Bird Gets the Worm" Mock Offseason

Post by IIsweet » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:38 pm

Here is what our PFF line grades were this year. With Clemming being the lowest rated tackle out of all NFL LT's
Clemmings 28.2

Kalil 36.9

Smith 39.3

Fusco 52.0

Berger 85.0

Boone 76.5

Sirles 70.3

Anything below 50 is really pretty bad.[/quote]

So it looks as though we have a Center, a guard, and a tackle. Need to add pieces and finding a LT is a priority. I am all for bringing in Wagner, but I think he's a RT? I think though he's a proven NFL player and Sirles provides a quality backup. Easton is our backup Center, I can live with that. Boone at LG... If Harris is back, what was his score in 2015? I think that he was a fairly good RG for us... Right? Fusco would be a very good backup Guard with Shepherd.

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