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Re: On to 2017

Post by IrishViking » Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:02 am

Any "sure things" at oline that you could see the Vikings selling the farm to sneak into the first round for? Haven't really checked yet.
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Re: On to 2017

Post by mosscarter » Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:04 am

this team needs way more than one lineman. if anything they should trade down and draft a bunch. have to try and do something.
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Post by IrishViking » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:35 pm

mosscarter wrote:this team needs way more than one lineman. if anything they should trade down and draft a bunch. have to try and do something.

I know we are still sour over this year but realistically Boone and Berger are starter quality, they would start on probably well over half of teams if you did a player swap. I can think of maybe 3-10 teams they would end up on the depth chart on, Berger more often then Boon. So, IMO if their was a "Sure thing" at one of the other 3 Oline slots, it might be worth drafting that rather than a plethora of later draft "spaghetti at the wall" quality which is sorta how we got here.

Honestly, one "blue chipper" a healthy Berger and Boone and a quality veteran on his last contract would give us 4/5ths of a NFL caliber Oline, which is already a dramatic improvement :lol: ... :cry: I made myself sad.
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Re: On to 2017

Post by IIsweet » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:59 pm

PHP mentioned the Wisconsin LT, Ramczyk. He's very legit !
Sign RT Ricky Wagner in FA and maybe Harris can come back to be a RG, if not... Sign one.
OL looks good with young depth that got valuable reps this year.
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Post by halfgiz » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:25 pm

IIsweet wrote:PHP mentioned the Wisconsin LT, Ramczyk. He's very legit !
Sign RT Ricky Wagner in FA and maybe Harris can come back to be a RG, if not... Sign one.
OL looks good with young depth that got valuable reps this year.
Ramczyk has a labrum tear, the same thing Kalil had. And it sounds like he needs surgery to repair it.
So we really don't need to spend a top pick on another Kalil.
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Post by Pondering Her Percy » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:58 pm

halfgiz wrote: Ramczyk has a labrum tear, the same thing Kalil had. And it sounds like he needs surgery to repair it.
So we really don't need to spend a top pick on another Kalil.
Yes it looks like he will need surgery. Thats why I had him falling. I think it's good value in the 2nd if he's healthy.

Just because he has a tear in his hip doesnt mean he's "another Kalil". Kalil had the injury AFTER he's struggled for the past few years.
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Post by IIsweet » Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:01 pm

halfgiz wrote: Ramczyk has a labrum tear, the same thing Kalil had. And it sounds like he needs surgery to repair it.
So we really don't need to spend a top pick on another Kalil.
That sucks for him. Hopefully the Vikings stay clear then. Regardless, we need a Legitimate LT
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Post by Texas Vike » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:51 am

Pondering Her Percy wrote: Yes it looks like he will need surgery. Thats why I had him falling. I think it's good value in the 2nd if he's healthy.

Just because he has a tear in his hip doesnt mean he's "another Kalil". Kalil had the injury AFTER he's struggled for the past few years.
Right, but his struggles were certainly in part due to the injury that necessitated the surgery.
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Post by halfgiz » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:17 am

Pondering Her Percy wrote: Yes it looks like he will need surgery. Thats why I had him falling. I think it's good value in the 2nd if he's healthy.

Just because he has a tear in his hip doesnt mean he's "another Kalil". Kalil had the injury AFTER he's struggled for the past few years.
Our problem is we need someone right now to help our OL. It sounds like Ramczyk is thinking about not declaring eligible and getting his hip fixed...we just need to see what happens.
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Post by Pondering Her Percy » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:20 am

Texas Vike wrote: Right, but his struggles were certainly in part due to the injury that necessitated the surgery.
His hip injury didnt happen until this year and he only played 2 games. It has nothing to do with him struggling the past few years
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Post by S197 » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:16 pm

IrishViking wrote:Any "sure things" at oline that you could see the Vikings selling the farm to sneak into the first round for? Haven't really checked yet.
Matt Kalil was so good at USC that he bumped Tyron Smith over to RT. Tyron Smith is now a pro-bowler and signed a $100+ million contract with Dallas a couple years back. Even sure things don't pan out all the time.
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