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Assuming Teddy is 100% and has a full offseason, who should start next season?
Teddy Bridgewater 22%  22%  [ 11 ]
Sam Bradford 73%  73%  [ 36 ]
Comedy Option (Spergon Wynn, John David Booty, Donovan McNabb) 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
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 If Teddy is 100%, who should be start @ QB next season? 
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Even if Teddy comes back at 100%, he is still playing on a majorly repaired knee. We don't know how mobile or how durable he will really be. Add to that the fact that Bradford is very accurate, and throws deep with more confidence, and the decision is easy from where I'm sitting. Bradford is the man.

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With our Oline we need a mobile QB. Teddy on the run was great.


I would say good, not great. But that doesn't even matter at this point as we have no idea what the busted up knee is going to do to his mobility. I also question how a guy who did that much damage to his knee without contact is ever going to have confidence enough to take contact.


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I love Teddy but I don't think he will ever be as accurate
as Bradford is. If Spielman and company can fix our OL
with our defense we have a real chance.

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Praying the vikings trade or release Teddy and he wins multiple championships elsewhere.


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Well, as usual, I see it different. As far as injury goes, have we forgot what Sam Bradford has been? Teddy is much younger and has been saddled with Adrian Petersons offense. Not Teddys offense. I would like to see what Teddy could do WITHOUT Peterson getting the ball on every first and second down. Norv had morphed this offense to get AD the ball more than normal which skews the offense.
I don't believe we have seen the best of Teddy B. Only a horribly overuse of a 30 year old running back with 2 TE and FB set obvious run formation. I'd like to see what Teddy could do with this very same shotgun sets with quick reads and a very real threat of a possible run by Teddy.
The offense as it is now is 100 times more unpredictable, very unlike what it was when AD is on the field.

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Praying the vikings trade or release Teddy and he wins multiple championships elsewhere.


You want Teddy to win elsewhere? Why not here?

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fiestavike wrote:
Praying the vikings trade or release Teddy and he wins multiple championships elsewhere.


You want Teddy to win elsewhere? Why not here?



I had the same thought, but I think Fiesta is just pouting.


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Well, as usual, I see it different. As far as injury goes, have we forgot what Sam Bradford has been? Teddy is much younger and has been saddled with Adrian Petersons offense. Not Teddys offense. I would like to see what Teddy could do WITHOUT Peterson getting the ball on every first and second down. Norv had morphed this offense to get AD the ball more than normal which skews the offense.
I don't believe we have seen the best of Teddy B. Only a horribly overuse of a 30 year old running back with 2 TE and FB set obvious run formation. I'd like to see what Teddy could do with this very same shotgun sets with quick reads and a very real threat of a possible run by Teddy.
The offense as it is now is 100 times more unpredictable, very unlike what it was when AD is on the field.


Did you just say Teddy and quick reads in the same sentence? Teddy is afraid to make mistakes. Teddy may never run like he once did ever again. I agree Norv turner didn't maximize Teddy's chances but he's likely to be a different quarterback after this injury. Less mobile, more wary, and still scared and slow to release with a deep ball far less accurate than Bradford. He's young so he could still have a career in the NFL, but I don't see him starting if Bradford is healthy.

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I love Teddy but I don't think he will ever be as accurate
as Bradford is. If Spielman and company can fix our OL
with our defense we have a real chance.


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Agree with everything above and would add they need to figure out the RB thing too..


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2016 season passer ratings

1. Matt Ryan • ATL 113.2
2. Tom Brady • NWE 113.1
3. Dak Prescott • DAL 102.7
4. Aaron Rodgers • GNB 101.1
5. Drew Brees • NOR 100.7
6. Kirk Cousins • WAS 100.3
7. Marcus Mariota • TEN 99.1
8. Sam Bradford • MIN 98.2
9. Brian Hoyer • CHI 98.0
10. Matthew Stafford • DET 97.8

(Teddy ranked 13th with a passer rating of 88.7 in 2015)

I know that passer rating doesn't mean everything, but it does give a decent snapshot of a QB's play.

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I'd roll with Bradford. I think we have a limited window of time to compete for the championship with this defense and Teddy may not be healthy or ready to compete at the same level Bradford can immediately.

If we're talking 5 years down the road: Teddy.
If we're talking next two seasons: Bradford.


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I love Teddy, been a huge supporter, but thinks he needs time. I also think we should see if Sam will sign a cheap 3 year deal, if not, the 2 year contract. And hope our 3rd striing can actually be groomed and isnt a J D Booty.


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I love Teddy, been a huge supporter, but thinks he needs time. I also think we should see if Sam will sign a cheap 3 year deal, if not, the 2 year contract. And hope our 3rd striing can actually be groomed and isnt a J D Booty.


Bradford is 29, in his prime and at the top of his game. He's in complete control of the offense in which Diggs, Thielen, Rudolph AND CP are having the best years of their careers all with no OL or run game. He is the best player on the offense and its leader. He is not signing ANY cheap 2-3 year extension.

Are you watching the QB play in Houston? Buffalo? Denver? Jax? Chicago? SF? Arizona? Just to name a few. He will be in HIGH demand on the open market which is why it was such a smart move in the trade that he was signed through next year. He'll sign a long term deal worthy of his abilities or they will trade him to one of the aforementioned teams.

Best guess is however Zim and company know what they have in Bradford and he really likes the mid-west so I see a nice 5-7 year extension coming this off season.


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He will also cost a ton, and is slow and immobile. And holds the ball so defenders can swat at it. The last one is fixable, if we get a decent oline.


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Best guess is however Zim and company know what they have in Bradford and he really likes the mid-west so I see a nice 5-7 year extension coming this off season.


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No more long-term premature extensions please. We have seen this movie before, and I don't want to see it anymore (i.e. Blair, Rudolph, Fusco).

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RFIP wrote:
Best guess is however Zim and company know what they have in Bradford and he really likes the mid-west so I see a nice 5-7 year extension coming this off season.


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No more long-term premature extensions please. We have seen this movie before, and I don't want to see it anymore (i.e. Blair, Rudolph, Fusco).



Giving Bradford a 5-7 year deal would be an unnecessarily risky move...


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He will also cost a ton, and is slow and immobile. And holds the ball so defenders can swat at it. The last one is fixable, if we get a decent oline.


Are you talking about Teddy or Bradford? I hope Teddy...


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He will also cost a ton, and is slow and immobile. And holds the ball so defenders can swat at it. The last one is fixable, if we get a decent oline.


Bradford had our longest run last Sunday, had a nice run the week before, and has apparently been told he needs to use those chicken-bone legs for running once in a while. He's not slow at all for a quarterback.

His blind side awareness could deinitely improve, and that's why they can slap the ball out of his hands (after getting past the traffic cones on our OL)

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He will also cost a ton, and is slow and immobile. And holds the ball so defenders can swat at it. The last one is fixable, if we get a decent oline.


Bradford had our longest run last Sunday, had a nice run the week before, and has apparently been told he needs to use those chicken-bone legs for running once in a while. He's not slow at all for a quarterback.

His blind side awareness could deinitely improve, and that's why they can slap the ball out of his hands (after getting past the traffic cones on our OL)


All I will say is people need to look at his fumbles and his sacks, with THAT OL and then compare them to Newton, Wilson Teddy and the like before making such statements. You might be surprised....


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Praying the vikings trade or release Teddy and he wins multiple championships elsewhere.


You want Teddy to win elsewhere? Why not here?


I had the same thought, but I think Fiesta is just pouting.


Same reason fans thought/wanted TJoke and Ponder to do something somewhere else, because they invested in them for so long. Funny, they didn't. And I really doubt Teddy would either. Better chance than those two, but still not much of a chance.

Bradford should go into next season as the starter, Teddy as the backup. No contest, no split snaps. We put up with that silly split snaps competition garbage too much in the past. Bradford showed so far this year with nothing at all around him that he is a better QB than Teddy will ever be. Why is this even a question. :wallbang:


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Same reason fans thought/wanted TJoke and Ponder to do something somewhere else, because they invested in them for so long. Funny, they didn't. And I really doubt Teddy would either. Better chance than those two, but still not much of a chance.

Bradford should go into next season as the starter, Teddy as the backup. No contest, no split snaps. We put up with that silly split snaps competition garbage too much in the past. Bradford showed so far this year with nothing at all around him that he is a better QB than Teddy will ever be. Why is this even a question. :wallbang:


For me it's definitely fandom to a degree though I think we can agree Teddy was/is a better talent than Ponder/Tjack. Teddy went to school in my town and he's a great kid so that has a lot to do with what I want to see. I think he's also a great leader and with time would be exceptional at reading defenses, calling proper audiables, etc. If he could win in a competition I would love that but I wouldn't hand it to him and so far Bradford has definitely been the better QB. Having a solid backup behind Bradford is a must with his history and the Vikings offensive line and at the least I think Teddy is that. He's got a place on the team regardless if he's a starter or not in my opinion. That is if Teddy can recover ... I feel that's still a pretty big question at this point.

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Bradford had our longest run last Sunday, had a nice run the week before, and has apparently been told he needs to use those chicken-bone legs for running once in a while. He's not slow at all for a quarterback.

His blind side awareness could deinitely improve, and that's why they can slap the ball out of his hands (after getting past the traffic cones on our OL)


Agree with all the above.

Bradford has surprised me with his runs. While he's no scrambler, he's a better overall athlete than most people think he is.


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That is if Teddy can recover ... I feel that's still a pretty big question at this point.


Yes, it's definitely a big question. Teddy may need more than a season to fully recover. Even then he might not be the same.


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Bradford had our longest run last Sunday, had a nice run the week before, and has apparently been told he needs to use those chicken-bone legs for running once in a while. He's not slow at all for a quarterback.

His blind side awareness could deinitely improve, and that's why they can slap the ball out of his hands (after getting past the traffic cones on our OL)


Agree with all the above.

Bradford has surprised me with his runs. While he's no scrambler, he's a better overall athlete than most people think he is.


He's getting healthier and more importantly he has gained all the trust back in his twice repaired knee. If you saw Sam's rookie take you'd see how well he moved in and around the pocket.

THIS is why he was the #1 overall pick; the vision, touch, arm talent and ability to throw guys open with crazy accuracy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9wIvl-OZ6M

Or: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJgZDeviWKc


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To nobody's surprise, Tom Pelissero reported this today:

Minnesota Vikings plan to bring back Sam Bradford for 2017 season


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To nobody's surprise, Tom Pelissero reported this today:

Minnesota Vikings plan to bring back Sam Bradford for 2017 season


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But Bradford has helped the Vikings stay in the playoff hunt at 7-6 by playing some of his best football under difficult circumstances, including a lack of offseason work to learn the Vikings’ scheme and his receivers, injuries that decimated the o-line, virtually no running game and offensive coordinator Norv Turner’s surprise resignation Nov. 2.


Lol. Apparently nobody on the offense had learned the Vikings offensive "scheme" under 2 years of Norv, so his departure was barely a speed bump. They should have phrased it "playing some of his best football under difficult circumstances including having to work under Norv Turner's outdated, inept offensive coordination... etc etc". :D


I'm glad they are bringing him back and I hope they continue throwing the ball and not be tempted to revert to the AP-centric style of recent years that gets us close, but never quite there.

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To nobody's surprise, Tom Pelissero reported this today:

Minnesota Vikings plan to bring back Sam Bradford for 2017 season



It would be utterly asinine if they didn't keep Sam. I would be in favor of a short-term extension (2017, 2018 with a guaranteed roster bonus if he remains on the team in '18) for Sam to lower his cap number a bit. No long-term premature extensions though please Rick.

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To nobody's surprise, Tom Pelissero reported this today:

Minnesota Vikings plan to bring back Sam Bradford for 2017 season


This team just refuses to get serious about building a winner. I guess I can't blame them, but it feels like their primary interest is keeping enough fan interest to fill the seats in any given year, not build a championship caliber team.


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Mothman wrote:
To nobody's surprise, Tom Pelissero reported this today:

Minnesota Vikings plan to bring back Sam Bradford for 2017 season


This team just refuses to get serious about building a winner. I guess I can't blame them, but it feels like their primary interest is keeping enough fan interest to fill the seats in any given year, not build a championship caliber team.


How is keeping the best QB on your team counterproductive to winning?

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Mothman wrote:
To nobody's surprise, Tom Pelissero reported this today:

Minnesota Vikings plan to bring back Sam Bradford for 2017 season



It would be utterly asinine if they didn't keep Sam. I would be in favor of a short-term extension (2017, 2018 with a guaranteed roster bonus if he remains on the team in '18) for Sam to lower his cap number a bit. No long-term premature extensions though please Rick.


Problem is Sam's camp is holding most of the cards. His cap hit next year is $22mil ($17 in cash value) and there are at least 8-10 teams in need of a new QB. I know Sam loves it in MN and I guess I understand some fans apprehension though not fully. Is it really that hard to see how good this offense could be if the line improves and they square away the RB situation? This is a championship roster imo and to think if the bulb goes on for Treadwell next year?


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