View unanswered posts | View active topics It is currently Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:25 pm



Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 
 from number 1 in power rankings week 5 to this? 
Author Message
Pro Bowl Elite Player

Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:34 am
Posts: 985
Post from number 1 in power rankings week 5 to this?
I can't speak for everyone, but I think this season has been a total disaster and I don't see how we are in any financial position to make major changes this off season. My question to everyone is, how can we possibly go from that great to this bad basically overnight ? It has been like a Tiger Woods fall off. I understand we have injuries; many teams do but was our offensive line really any good in the first place healthy?

I realize we will get some guys back on the line next season, but most of our line needs replaced and you can't do that in one off season. As soon as Peterson hears the word "pay" and "cut" my guess is he'll be gone. I don't think he will take one, and he has a ton of leverage because look at our running game without him. With that said, how will we make any significant free agent signings and how will we keep Patterson? I think he will be gone too, and if he goes I can surely see him having success elsewhere. I think there are bigger systemic problems than people are discussing.

In his rookie year, Patterson proved he can be a receiver and as far as I recall, when they did throw to him this year, he made some really nice plays. On the surface it looks like Treadwell is a certain bust, but are they actually targeting him? They threw at him once the last game as far as I can remember. Not only is our offense just plain bad, but our offensive philosophy is way worse. This offense really hasn't improved a single bit after Norv left, and I understand we are limited by our line, but I don't think Johnson belongs in any starting lineup. I'm highly concerned going into this off season.


Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:11 pm
Profile
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:47 am
Posts: 10040
Location: Burbank, California
Post Re: from number 1 in power rankings week 5 to this?
I agree about the offensive line. The OL wasn't anything to brag about even when it was healthy. It needs to be completely rebuilt.

There are others on the board who understand the financial cap way more than I do. I hope they'll chime in and explain what they think the Vikings can or cannot afford to do.

As for the offensive philosophy, I was unimpressed with Norv Turner's stubbornness and don't miss him. That said, I'm still questioning the conservative dink and dunk stuff (though admittedly the porous OL has something to do with it) and I think some of the personnel decisions are certainly questionable as well.


Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:03 pm
Profile
Hall of Famer
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:52 pm
Posts: 7973
Post Re: from number 1 in power rankings week 5 to this?
losperros wrote:
I agree about the offensive line. The OL wasn't anything to brag about even when it was healthy. It needs to be completely rebuilt.

There are others on the board who understand the financial cap way more than I do. I hope they'll chime in and explain what they think the Vikings can or cannot afford to do.

As for the offensive philosophy, I was unimpressed with Norv Turner's stubbornness and don't miss him. That said, I'm still questioning the conservative dink and dunk stuff (though admittedly the porous OL has something to do with it) and I think some of the personnel decisions are certainly questionable as well.


I didnt care for Norv even when he was announced as OC. But on the other side of the coin, he has NOTHING to work with on the Oline. Couldnt run OR let a play that took more then .5 seconds to develop. And then we get a QB (who I like) but is a statue, and cant get the ball out of his hand before it swatted away about the same time its in his hands.


Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:30 pm
Profile
Starter
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:07 pm
Posts: 166
Post Re: from number 1 in power rankings week 5 to this?
i bet yous guys already knew the vikes are still ranked no.1 as in...

Ranking NFL teams most affected by injuries

http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/223136/ranking-nfl-teams-most-affected-by-injuries

with no.2 ranked as the g.b.p.'s and no.3 are the c.b.'s, the black and blue division is black and blue

_________________
Image


Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:40 pm
Profile
Hall of Famer
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:52 pm
Posts: 7973
Post Re: from number 1 in power rankings week 5 to this?
Every team has injuries and work they way around them. Maybe they need a strength and conditioning coach a little better at his job. At least one where the players aernt getting hurt without contact being made.


Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:51 pm
Profile
All Pro Elite Player
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:45 am
Posts: 1269
Post Re: from number 1 in power rankings week 5 to this?
the injuries are not unusual. They just unmasked how very thin the veneer of talent was on our team. We had NO back up QB. Our OL was horribly staffed for starters and backups were little better then guys of the street.


Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:45 am
Profile
Hall of Famer
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:13 am
Posts: 7235
Location: Ft Walton Beach, Florida
Post Re: from number 1 in power rankings week 5 to this?
Want to build a good Offensive line? Start by Dealing Peterson away for draft picks


Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:16 pm
Profile
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:47 am
Posts: 10040
Location: Burbank, California
Post Re: from number 1 in power rankings week 5 to this?
Laserman wrote:
Want to build a good Offensive line? Start by Dealing Peterson away for draft picks


Is that possible? I thought AD was free to go after this year. Am I wrong about that?


Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:17 pm
Profile
All Pro Elite Player
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:45 am
Posts: 1269
Post Re: from number 1 in power rankings week 5 to this?
Its too late.....he is older, running on 2 rebuilt knees and now has meniscal tears. HE will NOT be our version of Herschel Walker.....Spielman held onto him way too long.


Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:23 pm
Profile
Defensive Tackle
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:48 am
Posts: 37219
Location: Chicago, IL
Post Re: from number 1 in power rankings week 5 to this?
losperros wrote:
Laserman wrote:
Want to build a good Offensive line? Start by Dealing Peterson away for draft picks


Is that possible? I thought AD was free to go after this year. Am I wrong about that?



He's under contract through next year but his base salary escalates to $11,750,000 and he's due a roster bonus of $6 million in March, making his cap hit $18 million. In other words, he's probably untradeable and it's practically a slam dunk that he won't be back under his current deal.


Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:07 pm
Profile
Starting Wide Receiver
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 24, 2005 5:48 pm
Posts: 17785
Location: Crystal, MN
Post Re: from number 1 in power rankings week 5 to this?
losperros wrote:
Laserman wrote:
Want to build a good Offensive line? Start by Dealing Peterson away for draft picks


Is that possible? I thought AD was free to go after this year. Am I wrong about that?

No it isn't and it is a stupid idea too.

Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

_________________
The Devil whispered in the Viking's ear, "There's a storm coming." The Viking replied, "I am the storm." ‪#‎SKOL2016‬


Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:45 pm
Profile YIM WWW
Pro Bowl Elite Player
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:28 pm
Posts: 560
Post Re: from number 1 in power rankings week 5 to this?
chicagopurple wrote:
the injuries are not unusual.


So it's normal for teams to lose damn near their entire offensive line, starting qb and starting rb?


Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:26 am
Profile
All Pro Elite Player
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:45 am
Posts: 1269
Post Re: from number 1 in power rankings week 5 to this?
the same has happened to many teams this year.
its not a good thing obviously but you need to take a hard look at who we lost...
the OL starters were all poor lot to start with. Undersized, chronic injuries for yrs, and bad draft picks.
Teddy wasnt lighting up the league and in fact, could be argued to have regressed in his second year.
And AP wasnt running for any good yards behind our awefull OL.
The problems run far deeper then the injuries.


Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:01 am
Profile
Pro Bowl Elite Player

Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:34 am
Posts: 985
Post Re: from number 1 in power rankings week 5 to this?
chicago purple is right to totally express his pessimism; we are all sick of this crap year after year. it's a mess regardless. our defense looks good on paper, but gave up horrific drives twice to detroit who will likely win this division now. how is that a GREAT defense? this team is a train wreck as usual. i'm done watching for sure, and soon i'm done posting it's futile. our offense is a disgrace to football on every level.


Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:34 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 14 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: bauce and 8 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.
Designed by STSoftware.