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Lack of big plays.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:55 pm
by Norv Zimmer
The lack of big explosive plays is why this team will never be anything. We didnt have one pass play more than 10 yards I think.

Re: Lack of big plays.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:02 pm
by S197
Norv Zimmer wrote:The lack of big explosive plays is why this team will never be anything. We didnt have one pass play more than 10 yards I think.
McKinnon and Ellison had plays over 10. Perhaps Patterson. But yeah when Willie Beavers is your tackle you're not going to be throwing many bombs.

Re: Lack of big plays.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:16 pm
by Maelstrom88
The oline is bad but that is not an excuse for NEVER taking a shot. Keep a TE, FB, and/ or the HB and throw it deep on a sluggo or hook n go. This is the Shurmur/ Bradford offense. I've watched it for years.

Re: Lack of big plays.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:18 pm
by fiestavike
Maelstrom88 wrote:The oline is bad but that is not an excuse for NEVER taking a shot. Keep a TE, FB, and/ or the HB and throw it deep on a sluggo or hook n go. This is the Shurmur/ Bradford offense. I've watched it for years.
I miss Norv. I am convinced this season would be going much better with Hill and someone off the scrap heap running Turner's system than we are now. We traded for Sam, and tried to revamp the whole offense to fit what he can and can't do...its throwing good money after bad and compounding one mistake with another. Ugh. Same old Vikings.

Re: Lack of big plays.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:31 pm
by RFIP
S197 wrote: McKinnon and Ellison had plays over 10. Perhaps Patterson. But yeah when Willie Beavers is your tackle you're not going to be throwing many bombs.
And Willie Beavers is Anthony Munoz compared to TJ Turnstyle!

Re: Lack of big plays.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:08 pm
by losperros
Maelstrom88 wrote:The oline is bad but that is not an excuse for NEVER taking a shot. Keep a TE, FB, and/ or the HB and throw it deep on a sluggo or hook n go. This is the Shurmur/ Bradford offense. I've watched it for years.
I agree the offense has to take some shots. Bradford can make the throws and the receivers are there. But this offense oftentimes feels like the Childress "play not to lose" style. It drives me crazy.

BTW, I don't know how others feel but I thought the OL looked bad even on good plays. For example, anyone running the ball behind this OL has to make most of the yardage by himself. Here's a good example. A 22 yard gain but still pretty bad blocking...

http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/vide ... 066ff8cf92

Re: Lack of big plays.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:19 pm
by S197
RFIP wrote: And Willie Beavers is Anthony Munoz compared to TJ Turnstyle!
https://twitter.com/cianaf/status/801883314420322304

Re: Lack of big plays.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:38 pm
by losperros
Holy moly, that is horrible! :x

Re: Lack of big plays.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:51 pm
by Nunin
the line is bad lol

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easton should start at center the rest of the way and berger, if he's healthy, should take over for fusco IMO
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go only knows what they'll do at tackle if sirle(sp) can't go.....but maybe put boone @LT.....keep fusco at RG and put berger at LG
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they gotta try something other than clemmings and beavers lol omg

Re: Lack of big plays.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:44 pm
by RFIP

LOL, Willie Beavers? My ex-girlfriends worn out beaver would do a better job of slowing the DE down!

And if you look up top you see turn-style Clemmings getting beat like a drum yet again!

Believe me Sam KNOWS how fast he has to get rid of it on every snap. LOL those saying "did you see the play Johnson was running free up the slot???" NO, Sam didn't see him because from the time a pass play is called he KNOWS he's got exactly 1.0 seconds to throw the ball before he's sacked! And so does the defense! Hence the route jump by Slay to win the game!

Re: Lack of big plays.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:09 am
by Mothman
losperros wrote: I agree the offense has to take some shots. Bradford can make the throws and the receivers are there. But this offense oftentimes feels like the Childress "play not to lose" style. It drives me crazy.

BTW, I don't know how others feel but I thought the OL looked bad even on good plays. For example, anyone running the ball behind this OL has to make most of the yardage by himself. Here's a good example. A 22 yard gain but still pretty bad blocking...

http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/vide ... 066ff8cf92

I agree. That was a beautiful run by Patterson but it wasn't well-blocked.

Re: Lack of big plays.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:34 am
by Pondering Her Percy
fiestavike wrote: I miss Norv. I am convinced this season would be going much better with Hill and someone off the scrap heap running Turner's system than we are now. We traded for Sam, and tried to revamp the whole offense to fit what he can and can't do...its throwing good money after bad and compounding one mistake with another. Ugh. Same old Vikings.
Lol you miss Norv and think the season would be going better with Hill :lol: :lol: What has this board come to?? I'd love to try whatever you're smoking.

Let's keep Norv and start Hill. Continue to do 7 step drops with Hill who is way less mobile than Sam. I'm sure he'd do great behind this OL. We can also keep running Asiata up the gut for no gain. Yeah all makes perfect sense. What were we all thinking??!! This guy has it figured out guys

Re: Lack of big plays.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:01 am
by Nunin
i gotta disagree that hill is 'way less mobile' than sam. that's actually funny. i think sam has been about as imobile as they come.
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Re: Lack of big plays.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:33 am
by Norv Zimmer
Just saw that Vikings down field passing averaged 3.5 yards per completion. That is absolutely pathetic.

Re: Lack of big plays.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:35 am
by Pondering Her Percy
Nunin wrote:i gotta disagree that hill is 'way less mobile' than sam. that's actually funny. i think sam has been about as imobile as they come.
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He's a 36 year old pocket QB!!! You're going to sit there and tell me he is mobile? At least sam is younger. Hill is about to croak.