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Norv Turner Resigns as OC

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:51 am
by HardcoreVikesFan
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ordinator/
The Vikings announced that Vikings offensive coordinator Norv Turner has resigned, and would be replaced in the interim by Pat Shurmur.

Re: Norv Turner Resigns as OC

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:53 am
by UKno1VIKING
Ask and you'll receive.
So who's at the top of the list?
I wasn't gunning for him to go, but i must admit, i'm a lot more excited about sunday now.

Re: Norv Turner Resigns as OC

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:57 am
by losperros
Kind of sad but it badly needed to happen. I wonder if Zimmer had a conversation with Norv and this was the end result.

I don't know what Shurmur can do but I hope he can at least see the big picture, adapt the offense to play to its strengths (yes, it has some) and compensate for the weaknesses. And I hope there won't be any more pounding players into a system that doesn't fit.

If nothing else, looking ahead there is now room for a better placed offensive philosophy going into the next draft and free agency.

Re: Norv Turner Resigns as OC

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:59 am
by chicagopurple
it still kinda sucks that the guys on the OL get paid for sucking and the OC pays the price.....and Spielman, the guy truly responsible for the whole mess is will likely go untouched.

Re: Norv Turner Resigns as OC

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:00 am
by TSonn
Someone on Reddit thought that maybe Shurmur was calling and designing the plays during Bradford's first 4 starts because of their familiarity with each other and then Norv took over on both of those duties during the bye week and clearly performed worse than Shurmur.

Re: Norv Turner Resigns as OC

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:13 am
by Norv Zimmer
TSonn wrote:Someone on Reddit thought that maybe Shurmur was calling and designing the plays during Bradford's first 4 starts because of their familiarity with each other and then Norv took over on both of those duties during the bye week and clearly performed worse than Shurmur.
That is a interesting theory.

I am excited about this, but it is about time. 3 years with the team and the offense has never improved and always been at the bottom of the league.

Re: Norv Turner Resigns as OC

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:13 am
by Dames
TSonn wrote:Someone on Reddit thought that maybe Shurmur was calling and designing the plays during Bradford's first 4 starts because of their familiarity with each other and then Norv took over on both of those duties during the bye week and clearly performed worse than Shurmur.
Sounds more like that poster is grasping for straws trying to figure out what happened to the offense, but we can all hope it goes back to the first 4-5 weeks at least. It's an enjoyable theory because it gives hope :)

Re: Norv Turner Resigns as OC

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:20 am
by Raptorman
So, how many games before people start calling for Shurmurs head?

Re: Norv Turner Resigns as OC

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:22 am
by 5thWave
I guarantee this makes Bradford do a happy dance.

Re: Norv Turner Resigns as OC

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:28 am
by Mothman
Wow.

Things clearly weren't working out with Turner as the OC but I think he was dealt a bad hand this year. As Craig suggested, I'm guessing this was a resignation prompted by a behind-the-scenes conversation rather than an entirely voluntary decision.

We'll see what Shurmur can do.

Like the Davidson-for-Sparano move, I fear this addresses a symptom rather than the underlying cause of the Vikings offensive problems but sometimes treating symptoms can lead to improvement.

Re: Norv Turner Resigns as OC

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:29 am
by dkoby
chicagopurple wrote:it still kinda sucks that the guys on the OL get paid for sucking and the OC pays the price.....and Spielman, the guy truly responsible for the whole mess is will likely go untouched.
Well, if your offensive line is weak, you stop calling for deep drops and run a few screen passes.
I'm guessing that Zim and Norv were seeing things a bit differently.

Re: Norv Turner Resigns as OC

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:30 am
by Mothman
Raptorman wrote:So, how many games before people start calling for Shurmurs head?
Why wait? Fire Shurmur!

Re: Norv Turner Resigns as OC

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:31 am
by Pondering Her Percy
chicagopurple wrote:it still kinda sucks that the guys on the OL get paid for sucking and the OC pays the price.....and Spielman, the guy truly responsible for the whole mess is will likely go untouched.
And I've said this multiple times, people can complain about Spielman all they want but let's not forget the talent he's brought in on this roster. You could say Carolinas GM is terrible because of their defensive backfield issue, or Seattles GM is bad for not focusing more on offensive line or John Elway is terrible for not preparing for life after Peyton Manning. You can say that about every GM in the NFL. Let's not forget that this whole offensive line thing could have something to do with Zim as well because he wants to build up his defense

Re: Norv Turner Resigns as OC

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:39 am
by Pondering Her Percy
As for the Turner move, I love it. He needs to go. And it's not necessarily because of the OL. He's just so predictable, knows he has a bad line and still has Bradford doing 7 step drops from under center and runs Matt Asiata like he's Walter Payton

Re: Norv Turner Resigns as OC

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:43 am
by Pondering Her Percy
If Norv is gone....is Scott too?