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I hate to put this out there but #VikingsTwitter is going nuts. Origin is Pete Carol saying the Vikes made a "big move" for an o-lineman. Most believe he was referencing Jake Long but I've been seeing a bit more smoke in the last half hour. We'll see but I have no idea how they'd do it with the cap situation and Rick's protection of draft picks ESPECIALLY after giving away premium picks for Bradford.

Stay tuned I guess.

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I hate to put this out there but #VikingsTwitter is going nuts. Origin is Pete Carol saying the Vikes made a "big move" for an o-lineman. Most believe he was referencing Jake Long but I've been seeing a bit more smoke in the last half hour. We'll see but I have no idea how they'd do it with the cap situation and Rick's protection of draft picks ESPECIALLY after giving away premium picks for Bradford.

Stay tuned I guess.



Thanks for the heads up. I guess we'll see...


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Post Re: Trade in the works for O-line?
I posted a long reply but for some reason it got erased, don't wanna type it again.

1. Long was never a "big" signing, a guy off the street for almost Vet minimum who hasn't played for 2 years, people saying that are dumb IMO
2. Floyd, Waynes, CP84, Tom Johnson, Alexander all come to mind for potential trades Plus a draft pick.
3. I am thinking Thomas or Staley


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I posted a long reply but for some reason it got erased, don't wanna type it again.

1. Long was never a "big" signing, a guy off the street for almost Vet minimum who hasn't played for 2 years, people saying that are dumb IMO
2. Floyd, Waynes, CP84, Tom Johnson, Alexander all come to mind for potential trades Plus a draft pick.
3. I am thinking Thomas or Staley


Maybe Boone wants Staley back with him. I agree on the trading players. Wright could also be on the list.
I think that Rick has the ability" to create cap space quickly if needed.


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Norv Zimmer wrote:
I posted a long reply but for some reason it got erased, don't wanna type it again.

1. Long was never a "big" signing, a guy off the street for almost Vet minimum who hasn't played for 2 years, people saying that are dumb IMO
2. Floyd, Waynes, CP84, Tom Johnson, Alexander all come to mind for potential trades Plus a draft pick.
3. I am thinking Thomas or Staley


Maybe Boone wants Staley back with him. I agree on the trading players. Wright could also be on the list.
I think that Rick has the ability" to create cap space quickly if needed.


I would have put wright in the mix... If I thought he had any value. Cant see anyone wanting wright sad to say.


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Why would Pete Carrol see/know about a Vikings trade before anyone else??

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Stand down. Via Wolfson:

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Carroll created a fun talker. But reality tonight is no movement on #Vikings redoing any deals for necessary cap space. Maybe he meant Long.

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Why would Pete Carrol see/know about a Vikings trade before anyone else??


Well, wasn't it wade phillips that broke the news about Bradford? Denvers d coordinator


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Why would Pete Carrol see/know about a Vikings trade before anyone else??


Well, wasn't it wade phillips that broke the news about Bradford? Denvers d coordinator



I don't know, was it? Same question: Why would Wade know about a trade that didn't involve his team before anyone else knew?

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I don't know , I remember mowing the lawn that morning, when I started they mentioned how wade Phillips tweeted out about the Bradford trade then quickly deleted it. 30 mins later the news broke.


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I don't know , I remember mowing the lawn that morning, when I started they mentioned how wade Phillips tweeted out about the Bradford trade then quickly deleted it. 30 mins later the news broke.


I remember hearing/ reading that too. My guess would be that, like any other profession, folks in the NFL know one another from years back and they talk to one another. Juicy rumors have a way of spreading.


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staley would be a godsend


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Why would Pete Carrol see/know about a Vikings trade before anyone else??


He easily could have known in my opinion. GM's play other teams against each other all the time as to what other teams will offer them in trades. Maybe Seattle's GM called about Staley or Thomas and one of them said "Minnesota offered Sharrif Floyd and a 3rd Round draft pick so if you can beat that call us back" or something along those lines. GM tells Pete what was said and Pete blabs it out.


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Spielman has got to be careful here. Not only are the Vikes hard up against the cap, but as I see it they don't have any good trade options. He already shipped next year's 1st and what will probably end up being at least a 3rd for Bradford. Now if he has to dump another high pick for an OL and maybe a player he'd better be sure it's going to turn out as well as it did with Bradford.

As far as trade bait, I can only think of one or two guys who might have real value on the market at this point (those being Patterson and maybe Floyd). I think Floyd would be hard to ship mostly because he's a very good player who can't stay on the field, plus it isn't like there are a bunch of teams out there pining for interior DL at this point in the season. Patterson could attract some interest as he's been much more effective as of late, but then again, he's been much more effective as of late. It would be hard to trade one of the guys who is actually putting points on the board for an OL at this point, not to mention Patterson is entering the prime of his career at this point and could be a mainstay on offense now for the next 4 years if he continues to play like he has recently.


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Post Re: Trade in the works for O-line?
one OL player wont turn us around...we need a handful of guys.
A lot of our trades the last few yrs have been with Seattle. I wonder if a trade fell thru and their coach is leaking info as a result.
As stated by others, Long wasn't any big move and cost us next to nothing (which may be exactly what he ends up being worth).


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As reported on the Rich Eisen show today, the price for Staley is supposedly a 2nd-round draft pick.

The problem is the Vikings have no cap space.

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As reported on the Rich Eisen show today, the price for Staley is supposedly a 2nd-round draft pick.

The problem is the Vikings have no cap space.


They'd have to get someone to restructure a contract.


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J. Kapp 11 wrote:
As reported on the Rich Eisen show today, the price for Staley is supposedly a 2nd-round draft pick.

The problem is the Vikings have no cap space.


They'd have to get someone to restructure a contract.


I wonder how serious they are about Peterson going forward. The timing is weird but if they have inklings about wanting him on the roster past this year that could be an interesting way to free some space. I'd also hate to say it but cutting Harris outright is an option. In hindsight, cutting Kalil and using that $11M to sign someone else on the left side would've been a good idea.

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I wonder how serious they are about Peterson going forward. The timing is weird but if they have inklings about wanting him on the roster past this year that could be an interesting way to free some space.


Ditto for Kalil. If either player would be willing to renegotiate or extend their deal during this season, it could help the Vikes free up cap space 9that's IF the Vikes are interested in bringing Kalil back). Peterson probably makes more sense...

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I'd also hate to say it but cutting Harris outright is an option. In hindsight, cutting Kalil and using that $11M to sign someone else on the left side would've been a good idea.


If they'd known he was going to miss most of the season anyway it would have been a no-brainer!


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Spielman has got to be careful here. Not only are the Vikes hard up against the cap, but as I see it they don't have any good trade options. He already shipped next year's 1st and what will probably end up being at least a 3rd for Bradford. Now if he has to dump another high pick for an OL and maybe a player he'd better be sure it's going to turn out as well as it did with Bradford.

As far as trade bait, I can only think of one or two guys who might have real value on the market at this point (those being Patterson and maybe Floyd). I think Floyd would be hard to ship mostly because he's a very good player who can't stay on the field, plus it isn't like there are a bunch of teams out there pining for interior DL at this point in the season. Patterson could attract some interest as he's been much more effective as of late, but then again, he's been much more effective as of late. It would be hard to trade one of the guys who is actually putting points on the board for an OL at this point, not to mention Patterson is entering the prime of his career at this point and could be a mainstay on offense now for the next 4 years if he continues to play like he has recently.


The Vikings may just have to bite the bullet this year when it comes to the offensive line. Besides, the OL should and could have been dealt with far more efficiently in the past. Now they might have to wait until the next draft and free agency, plus they must deal with their cap issues first.

As for Patterson, the Vikings should re-sign him to a new deal. He's too valuable on special teams and offense to let go.


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As for Patterson, the Vikings should re-sign him to a new deal. He's too valuable on special teams and offense to let go.


Agree 100%....Patterson showing good signs of improvement regarding his receiver skills coupled with his obvious talent on STs makes him pretty darned valuable imho.


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As for Patterson, the Vikings should re-sign him to a new deal. He's too valuable on special teams and offense to let go.


Agree 100%....Patterson showing good signs of improvement regarding his receiver skills coupled with his obvious talent on STs makes him pretty darned valuable imho.


and he'll probably not re-sign because of his two year exile by turner


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They'd have to get someone to restructure a contract.


It would be worth it IMO because Staley and Boone have played together and
would solve half of the OL's issues.

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I don't see a trade coming - unless the line totally craps the bed again against Chicago.

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I don't see a trade coming - unless the line totally craps the bed again against Chicago.


How much more crap does the bed need? Gracious.

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Makes me wonder why Rick didnt see this coming, but just about all my friends did. 2 drafts and 2 years to do trades and he did very little. Yet Zim got his D.


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Article on how Vikings could possibly acquire Joe Thomas.

http://kfan.iheart.com/onair/vikings-bl ... -15235603/


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Article on how Vikings could possibly acquire Joe Thomas.

http://kfan.iheart.com/onair/vikings-bl ... -15235603/

Its a good article and it makes sense. I would gladly give up next year's 2nd for Thomas. Plus if you give them Wright, maybe they would accept a 3rd?

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Latest reports out of Cleveland are that they're not moving Joe Thomas.

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I'd love for us to snag Joe Thomas and then move Jake Long to RT. I don't even care if we give up next year's second round pick. The guys we've been drafting in the first two rounds the past couple years aren't even playing anyway. Then next year move Kalil over to RT when he's healthy. Boom. Offensive line fixed for a few years while we can draft more guys in 2018.


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