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Texas Vike wrote:You asked this of Mondry, not me, but I think it's a good question. I hate the lack of creativity in our running game. By vanilla, I would mean that there are no pitches, no pulling guards, none of the smart counters that Cutler pulled successfully on us last night--on that play flipping it when he saw a huge running lane for his RB. Norv's MO is to stubbornly run right up the middle behind our horrendous O linemen. Who knows, maybe if we tried going wide or pulling our Gs we'd fare even worse, but I'd love to see some variety and creativity and less predictability.

chicagopurple wrote: What do you REALLY think he is going to gameplan?!?

chicagopurple wrote:worrying about your offense plays being too simple when your OL is a sick joke is like worrying about repositioning your sails when your hull is breeched.......

If the loss to Philadelphia did not make it obvious, Monday should have: Turner is working against a stacked deck, to be sure.

Sam Bradford is not suddenly going to become a Pro Bowl quarterback, because that’s not what he is. The offensive line might be able to improve incrementally by getting Jeremiah Sirles in the lineup—right tackle T.J. Clemmings couldn’t protect Bradford from the rain with an umbrella—but it’s not going to become dominant overnight. And at running back? Adrian Peterson is going to be gone for a while yet, but neither he nor Jerick McKinnon nor Matt Asiata has found room behind that maligned front anyway.

Personnel-wise, then, the Vikings are what they are to a large extent. Perhaps GM Rick Spielman swings a trade or two before Tuesday’s deadline, but he’s already down a 2017 first-round pick (sent out in the Bradford deal) and is tight against the cap.

In other words, there’s probably not much in the way of reserves on the way. So, if the Vikings are to get anything of value out of their offense this season, Turner will have to find a way to unlock whatever secrets are still hiding.

The heat is squarely on Turner now. So much so, in fact, that the shelf life for this column might be brief. It would be a surprise if the Vikings sent Turner packing this week, but not an unforeseeable outcome.

chicagopurple wrote:worrying about your offense plays being too simple when your OL is a sick joke is like worrying about repositioning your sails when your hull is breeched.......

VikingPaul73 wrote:Well I admit I thought you were a crackpot for posting this poll but it turns out you were just a genius 1 week ahead of his time!!!!

Raptorman wrote:Can I change my vote?

Boon wrote:Just to add a conspiracy factor to all this. All the coachspeak and worship at that presser was a phenomenal acting job. I think they had a falling out on vision. Maybe on just plain coaching. I told you guys he was tired of norv sucking. Norv was gonna get fired so he resigned. And zim had a hand in it. Know the tell?

In his presser he says " i hope we can still remain friends". If turner actually approached him about leaving, why would zim say that? Leads me to believe it was the other way around

Purple Martin wrote: Clearly there was pressure on Norv whether Zimmer intentionally exerted it or not. His presser could have been a huge coverup to protect Norv from the damaging impact of being fired, but I don't think so. Norv was clearly miffed by Zimmer's suggestions about how to run the offense, and this could cause a rift in the friendship that Zimmer expressed concern about.

Texas Vike wrote:Wobby's interview of Kevin Seifert is worth a watch; I think Seifert typically has a pretty level-headed common sense read on this team:
http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/vide ... 10a2560f14