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Post Is Wentz the toughest remaining QB Vikes face?
Interesting. Sounds absurd on the surface but maybe it's not so crazy of a take.

http://www.1500espn.com/vikings-2/2016/ ... challenge/

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Post Re: Is Wentz the toughest remaining QB Vikes face?
No. No, he's not.


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Post Re: Is Wentz the toughest remaining QB Vikes face?
probably not, but it is interesting to be 5-0 and feel like the toughest stretch of the season is behind us.

that might not be accurate, and perhaps based on last years standings more than this years reality, but still encouraging.


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No. No, he's not.


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Post Re: Is Wentz the toughest remaining QB Vikes face?
if he is, then we're going to be ok.
Hoyer worries me more.


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No. No, he's not.


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Post Re: Is Wentz the toughest remaining QB Vikes face?
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No. No, he's not.



Yeah. Not even close. A slumping rookie we have tape on and an extra week to get ready for. Hoyer worries me more.


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Post Re: Is Wentz the toughest remaining QB Vikes face?
Of all the QBs remaining on the schedule, you guys are worried about Hoyer?


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Of all the QBs remaining on the schedule, you guys are worried about Hoyer?



I meant it more as "even hoyer worries me more than Wentz"


If i had to pick one it would Rodgers at lambeau if they are fighting for a playoff spot.


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Post Re: Is Wentz the toughest remaining QB Vikes face?
I'm not too worried about any of the QBs...I'm more worried about defenses totally shutting down our offense, especially when the chips are on the table.


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I'm not too worried about any of the QBs...I'm more worried about defenses totally shutting down our offense, especially when the chips are on the table.


That's how I feel about it too.


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Post Re: Is Wentz the toughest remaining QB Vikes face?
As of right now the question could be arguably answered with a yes. However, we are reaching the point in the season where teams start to sharpen up and get it together. I don't think Wentz is the best we'll face.

I wonder if Palmer is going to bounce back? He is Palmer is 35, so he might be done. We'll start to have a good idea of who the Cardinals are this season in the coming weeks.

Stafford doesn't scare me. We've done well against him, their defense is terrible, and they lack Calvin Johnson.

Something is up with Rogers. Maybe he'll turn it around, but he is not the same player he was in 2014. I'm not going so far as to say he is done and I'm certainly not saying the game on Dec 24th is a lock. However it is fair to ask right now if his best years are behind him? We've now seen over 20 games of mediocre play from him and their roster isn't strong enough to overcome his regression to normalcy.

Bortles might emerge as something, but it is Jacksonville. Hoyer is Hoyer. Cousins isn't scary. Luck might be scary, but their defense is terrible and he looks mortal. He might be hurt by the time we play them, their season is not going well.

Prescott is probably the most interesting, but after watching the game on Sunday I'm not really sure what all the fanfare is about? He is SLOPPY. He is giving them that intangible spark, but he is not anywhere near the passer that Romo has shown himself to be. That game might be our biggest remaining test on the schedule. At the rate both teams are going it might be a game that could decide who gets the #1 seed in the NFC.

Wentz may not be the best of the remaining, but he is certainly in the mix. The way the NFC is going this year it wouldn't surprise me if both PHI and DAL go to the post season from the NFC.

An interesting thing to consider in all of this: Brady is the last truly "Elite, that guy" passer in the NFL. I would say Brees and Ryan are the next tier down. Rogers was in the elite category, but his last season and a half of play has been at the average level of play. (but he still has equity.)

Who is going to be the elite pass in 2-3 years? I'm not sure there is a guy like that playing right now.

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Who is going to be the elite pass in 2-3 years? I'm not sure there is a guy like that playing right now.


Andrew Luck? The media has already placed him in the HOF. I don't necessary agree with that assessment but he will be one of the top QBs for the next decade most likely. Him and Sam Bradford, obviously.


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If Rodgers bounces back
I would say him.

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mansquatch wrote:
Who is going to be the elite pass in 2-3 years? I'm not sure there is a guy like that playing right now.


Andrew Luck? The media has already placed him in the HOF. I don't necessary agree with that assessment but he will be one of the top QBs for the next decade most likely. Him and Sam Bradford, obviously.


I expect Bradford's numbers to get even better this season as the schedule softens defensively and with more continuity. I think it remains be seen whether he is ultimately going to be Ryan Fitzpatrick from last year, or Rich Gannon just beginning a career resurgence (realizing that any of these comparisons is imperfect). In my opinion, theres a little too much optimism about a guy who is being put in position to succeed, but seems to have some sizable shortcomings that I fear will show up in crunch time. In some ways, I think a Matt Stafford isn't a terrible comparison either.

Its an interesting question about who the next elite QB is going to be. There are a lot of dimensions to being that guy, and a lot of combinations of abilities that can get a guy to the point of being a legit NFL QB. They often have a lot of very different strengths and weaknesses. I think its an interesting discussion, what are the factors that separate guys from the pack. Roethlisberger is better than the pack, but has totally different strengths than Drew Brees, for instance. Maybe its part of what makes QBs difficult to evaluate.


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Post Re: Is Wentz the toughest remaining QB Vikes face?
Prescott, Rodgers, and Stafford worry me more.

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Post Re: Is Wentz the toughest remaining QB Vikes face?
Toughest remaining Q is still gotta be Rodgers or Luck, but it's not even about that one position. I'd say Cowboys and Dak might give the Vikings the strongest test of the remaining games just with their style of play. Rodgers and Luck especially don't have a team that scares anyones, but solely from a QB perspective, those are the toughest.


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Toughest remaining Q is still gotta be Rodgers or Luck, but it's not even about that one position. I'd say Cowboys and Dak might give the Vikings the strongest test of the remaining games just with their style of play. Rodgers and Luck especially don't have a team that scares anyones, but solely from a QB perspective, those are the toughest.



Assuming we aren't going to run the table I think Dallas is easily one of our losses. Not that we would be overmatched or couldn't beat them again in the playoffs, I just would see them being one of our losses.


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Post Re: Is Wentz the toughest remaining QB Vikes face?
As far as I'm concerned, we're running the table until somebody beats us.

And I don't think Wentz is in the top 3 quarterbacks we have left to face.

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:rofl:


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Wentz is going to be a quivering, sniveling mass of jello who sleeps with one eye open by Sunday night. :lol:

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Wentz is going to be a quivering, sniveling mass of jello who sleeps with one eye open by Sunday night. :lol:


You know Zimmer is going to open his blitz packages wide open...double A gap ....check, Delayed Safety Blitz ... check,
Corner Blitz ... check, Send everyone ... check

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Post Re: Is Wentz the toughest remaining QB Vikes face?
I think blitzing him is the key for sure. I watched the Redskins game on my commute this morning, and he looked very skittish when getting pressured.
Their LT was especially poor. I'd back Everson Griffen to bag a couple of sacks sunday.


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I think blitzing him is the key for sure. I watched the Redskins game on my commute this morning, and he looked very skittish when getting pressured.
Their LT was especially poor. I'd back Everson Griffen to bag a couple of sacks sunday.



one of their starting Olinemen got banned for 10 games I believe. Lane Johnson?


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UKno1VIKING wrote:
I think blitzing him is the key for sure. I watched the Redskins game on my commute this morning, and he looked very skittish when getting pressured.
Their LT was especially poor. I'd back Everson Griffen to bag a couple of sacks sunday.



one of their starting Olinemen got banned for 10 games I believe. Lane Johnson?


Yeah it was Johnson.....but expect Phily to give their rookie more help (sound familiar). As far as the remaining QBs.....the 2 youngsters have talent and a good supporting group. Stafford, Luck, and Cousins are all very streaky and can light it up at any time.....just never know when. And never count out Rodgers. Maybe we sweep GB this year who knows but that game concerns me the most. 1 game at a time.


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Assuming we aren't going to run the table I think Dallas is easily one of our losses. Not that we would be overmatched or couldn't beat them again in the playoffs, I just would see them being one of our losses.


We need to win at Phili to restart the momentum, but if we lose to the Cowboys (or any other team at home this year) the fans did not do their jobs. I went to the Packers game and could not believe the number of people sitting down with their thumbs up their a..es when our defense was on the field. This venue is earning a reputation for offering the most inhospitable conditions for opposing offenses. A rowdy crowd does a lot for a defense that already smells blood in the water and I think that's something Prescott hasn't had to deal with yet, at least not to the level of what we can offer. That goes for any other QB visiting - we can give them the psychological treatment by rattling the hell out of them and then let "The Maul of America" administer the physical punishment :beerock: :smilevike:


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If Rodgers bounces back
I would say him.

See, I am not worried about an elite passer. I'm worried about an elite team. An elite passer can beat you, sometimes by himself, and elite team can beat you 90% of the time.

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Interesting. Sounds absurd on the surface but maybe it's not so crazy of a take.

http://www.1500espn.com/vikings-2/2016/ ... challenge/


He is the toughest one they are going to face this week. And right now, that is all that matters.

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Yeah it was Johnson.....but expect Phily to give their rookie more help (sound familiar).


Yeah, we gave our bums more help all the time. Just meant less area to cover. :wallbang:


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