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Reasonable optimism

Post by The-Purple-Reign » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:29 pm

It can't be denied there difficult teams out there (we are extremely far behind with our O), but as we know, we are building, and keep building. It's difficult at this point to see what we can do later on when we inevitably round out our O. Zimm is a great coach, and if anyone can get the offense shaped up, it's him.

If we can hold this chance to get top seed, our offense will have developed quite a bit by then, and hopefully we'll get AP in at that point. When those elements happen, and I truely believe they will (not wishful thinking), we will be looking like a true super bowl team.

Until then, we have to focus game by game

- SKOL!
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Re: Reasonable optimism

Post by IrishViking » Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:41 pm

Aside from the Patriots I like our odds against just about anyone today.
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Post by chicagopurple » Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:05 pm

AP's abscence isnt really a hindrance. We dont have a Ol to block for hi anyway. His absence has forced the offense to diversify and I think that has been a good thing. If we go anywhere this year it will be due to our OL gelling, somehow.....if that happens, we ought to give the super bowl game ball to the OL coach.
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Re: Reasonable optimism

Post by RFIP » Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:39 pm

The-Purple-Reign wrote:It can't be denied there difficult teams out there (we are extremely far behind with our O), but as we know, we are building, and keep building. It's difficult at this point to see what we can do later on when we inevitably round out our O. Zimm is a great coach, and if anyone can get the offense shaped up, it's him.

If we can hold this chance to get top seed, our offense will have developed quite a bit by then, and hopefully we'll get AP in at that point. When those elements happen, and I truely believe they will (not wishful thinking), we will be looking like a true super bowl team.

Until then, we have to focus game by game

- SKOL!
This teams offense is not extremely far behind ANYONE's O. And when you factor in a defense that will bring ANYONE ESLES O back toward us and the rate at which the Vikings O is growing, the sky is the limit for this team this year.

Will they win the Super Bowl? We sall see but I know they have as good a chance as ANYONE right now, and better than most.
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Re: Reasonable optimism

Post by UKno1VIKING » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:27 am

I'm sorry i have to disagree. Our Offence is not "extremely far behind" like you have mentioned.
We have, one of the most underrated young receiving group in the NFL, a Running Back who is a very good player, a QB playing out of his skin. The one group you maybe could say that about is our O-line, but take away last weeks game, how many times has the QB been touched? They haven't produced massive holes for the Running Backs, but they've kept Bradford upright enough for him to help us win games.
I'm very excited about this young all around team, more than i have ever been about any other Vikings side i've watched in the past 20 years. And quite a bit of that is to do with our offence making plays. I honestly think were a couple of linemen away from being the most rounded team in the NFL.
If were not already.
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Post by The-Purple-Reign » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:09 am

UKno1VIKING wrote:I'm sorry i have to disagree. Our Offence is not "extremely far behind" like you have mentioned.
We have, one of the most underrated young receiving group in the NFL, a Running Back who is a very good player, a QB playing out of his skin. The one group you maybe could say that about is our O-line, but take away last weeks game, how many times has the QB been touched? They haven't produced massive holes for the Running Backs, but they've kept Bradford upright enough for him to help us win games.
I'm very excited about this young all around team, more than i have ever been about any other Vikings side i've watched in the past 20 years. And quite a bit of that is to do with our offence making plays. I honestly think were a couple of linemen away from being the most rounded team in the NFL.
If were not already.

I hear that. I think it's the OL that I was thinking about most. I think you're right - If we can tighten up the OL our offence will look pretty damn good. This part of the O development I was talking about will come in handy if we can get AP back it. Tighten up the OL, and AP will shine. I think this will be the case once we do have him in. I also agree with the other comment about AP's absence not being a hindrance. But again, I saying as out OL develops through the season, when we DO get him back, we'll be able to open up his game.
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Re: Reasonable optimism

Post by S197 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:59 pm

Just... people... stop getting hurt. At this rate, we're going to have to start calling guys in the ring of honor to play by week 16.
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Re: Reasonable optimism

Post by RFIP » Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:29 am

UKno1VIKING wrote:I'm sorry i have to disagree. Our Offence is not "extremely far behind" like you have mentioned.
We have, one of the most underrated young receiving group in the NFL, a Running Back who is a very good player, a QB playing out of his skin. The one group you maybe could say that about is our O-line, but take away last weeks game, how many times has the QB been touched? They haven't produced massive holes for the Running Backs, but they've kept Bradford upright enough for him to help us win games.
I'm very excited about this young all around team, more than i have ever been about any other Vikings side i've watched in the past 20 years. And quite a bit of that is to do with our offence making plays. I honestly think were a couple of linemen away from being the most rounded team in the NFL.
If were not already.
And Patterson has become an extension of the run game. A simple smoke screen, even if not blocked great, usually nets 4-5 yards...and when well blocked is 10+ with a chance for a house call.
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Re: Reasonable optimism

Post by dkoby » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:00 pm

Just think, we haven't even seen Treadwell yet. Diggs, Rudy and Treadwell with Jet out of the backfield makes us pretty scary on third down.
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Post by S197 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:28 pm

dkoby wrote:Just think, we haven't even seen Treadwell yet. Diggs, Rudy and Treadwell with Jet out of the backfield makes us pretty scary on third down.
Assuming Treadwell lives up to his potential, which we have yet to see.
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Re: Reasonable optimism

Post by Boon » Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:17 pm

S197 wrote: Assuming Treadwell lives up to his potential, which we have yet to see.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLr4vR0l1He/

Nope, not throwing shade or taking shots at all
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Re: Reasonable optimism

Post by Boon » Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:19 pm

At the risk of beating a dead horse, lets just say i dont think he sees the field this year as a receiver in any consistent fashion unless we have a few go down. You guys can believe the coach speak though
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Re: Reasonable optimism

Post by RFIP » Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:27 pm

Boon wrote:At the risk of beating a dead horse, lets just say i dont think he sees the field this year as a receiver in any consistent fashion unless we have a few go down. You guys can believe the coach speak though
I read a Norv quote a couple days ago where he said Treadwell "will be a factor in this offense THIS YEAR.."
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Re: Reasonable optimism

Post by NCViking » Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:09 pm

My view on things is a big part of why our offense has been so successful is they have had ZERO turnovers. That would not be the case if Peterson had been playing all season. If he had looked productive prior to his injury, I'd have high hopes for him coming back and boosting our offense, but I think decreasing on productivity and our O-line isn't doing crap for run blocking hurting him as well.
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Re: Reasonable optimism

Post by 808vikingsfan » Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:33 am

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DVOA PLAYOFF ODDS REPORT
Odds to Make Playoffs	Odds to Win Super Bowl LI	          Odds of No. 1 Pick
1	MIN	93.9                      1	MIN	17.4%	               1	CLE	47.8%
2	PIT	88.                       2	SEA	16.7%	               2	NYJ	10.1%
3	SEA	85.5                      3	PIT	14.6%	               3	SF	9.3%
4	ATL	84.0%	                  4	NE	7.7%	                 4	MIA	8.3%
5	NE	77.                        5	DEN	6.9%	                5	CHI	4.1%
through Week 5
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