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Re: 2016 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:48 am
by Mothman
Those 2003 Vikings? They have some advice for this year’s team
The Vikings’ 2003 season began with high hopes. It ended with players throwing their helmets across the locker room.
That team started 6-0 before falling apart and finishing 9-7. It all came crashing down when they were stunned, 18-17, at Arizona on the final play of the season — a touchdown pass to the corner of the end zone on fourth-and-24 that knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs.
To make matters worse, it was archrival Green Bay winning the NFC North. Minnesota had needed a win or a Packers loss to make the playoffs, but they beat Denver 31-3.
“It was shocking,” said David Dixon, then a Minnesota guard. “Guys were throwing their helmets in the locker room and they were yelling. People were just venting.”
More at the link.
Re: 2016 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:25 pm
by Mothman
Matt Vensel @mattvensel 2h2 hours ago
Zimmer on the areas where Anthony Barr could be better: "All."
Re: 2016 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:25 am
by PurpleMustReign
Mothman wrote:
I am really disappointed in Barr this year. Idk if he is hurt or something but he looked like an absolute beast last year and eveb early this year, but has neen non existant lately.
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Re: 2016 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:34 am
by Jordysghost
Mothman wrote:
My word, Zimmer just has no issue humiliating his own players on an individual basis in the media.
Re: 2016 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:58 am
by Mothman
Jordysghost wrote:
My word, Zimmer just has no issue humiliating his own players on an individual basis in the media.
It may blow up in his face (or perhaps that's what happened on Sunday). I've seen coaches go overboard with that tactic in the past and it doesn't tend to end well.
Re: 2016 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:11 pm
by Pondering Her Percy
Jordysghost wrote:
My word, Zimmer just has no issue humiliating his own players on an individual basis in the media.
I dont really consider that "humiliating". He said he needs to improve in all areas. I'm sure he would say that about 98% of guys on this team. Thats just his mentality
Re: 2016 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:22 pm
by Jordysghost
Pondering Her Percy wrote:
I dont really consider that "humiliating". He said he needs to improve in all areas. I'm sure he would say that about 98% of guys on this team. Thats just his mentality
Most coaches push constant improvement and hold players accountable, few do so as brashly and foward as Zimmer.
Re: 2016 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:18 pm
by Pondering Her Percy
Jordysghost wrote:
Most coaches push constant improvement and hold players accountable, few do so as brashly and foward as Zimmer.
That's his old school mentality. I like it. I'd rather have that then for it to be sugar coated if I was a player. It pushes me to work harder because you dont want that stuff being said about you.
Side note: This might have been brought up already but I just noticed what it says under your username every time you post. I know it changes based on how many posts you have but you are currently at the "Packers suck" stage
Re: 2016 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:35 pm
by Mothman
Pondering Her Percy wrote:Side note: This might have been brought up already but I just noticed what it says under your username every time you post. I know it changes based on how many posts you have but you are currently at the "Packers suck" stage
I didn't notice that.
Re: 2016 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:05 pm
by Jordysghost
Pondering Her Percy wrote:
I dont really consider that "humiliating". He said he needs to improve in all areas. I'm sure he would say that about 98% of guys on this team. Thats just his mentality
Most coaches push constant improvement and hold players accountable, few do so as brashly and foward as Zimmer.[/quote]
That's his old school mentality. I like it. I'd rather have that then for it to be sugar coated if I was a player. It pushes me to work harder because you dont want that stuff being said about you.
Side note: This might have been brought up already but I just noticed what it says under your username every time you post. I know it changes based on how many posts you have but you are currently at the "Packers suck" stage
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Old school and putting someone on blast publicly on an often basis aren't the same thing.
Oh jee, thats new. Merry Christmas!
Re: 2016 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:26 pm
by Pondering Her Percy
Jordysghost wrote:
Old school and putting someone on blast publicly on an often basis aren't the same thing.
He didnt put Barr "on blast" often. He's answered how many questions on Barr this year and he's been saying he's doing the right things, just not making the splashy plays. The guy asked him: what areas does Barr need to improve in and he says "all". He didnt bad mouth the guy or rip into him. It was a one word answer. That's not putting somebody "on blast"
Re: 2016 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:37 pm
by Jordysghost
Pondering Her Percy wrote:
He didnt put Barr "on blast" often. He's answered how many questions on Barr this year and he's been saying he's doing the right things, just not making the splashy plays. The guy asked him: what areas does Barr need to improve in and he says "all". He didnt bad mouth the guy or rip into him. It was a one word answer. That's not putting somebody "on blast"
I wasnt referring specifically just to Barr, and Barr previously having been worthy of praise should justify his coach showing him some respect and not publicly discrediting him, Zimmer seems to think such tactics are effective at properly motivating players, I dont.
Re: 2016 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:15 pm
by PurpleMustReign
Mothman wrote:
I didn't notice that.
This is the coolest thing on the site so far!!
Re: 2016 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:34 pm
by HardcoreVikesFan
Mothman wrote:
He looks soft out there. He isn't filling his gap, he isn't leading at the point of attack, he is undisciplined in contain. It is complete and utter BS. It honestly looked like he wasn't even trying on Sunday.
Maybe the team was right to have Aaron Donald high their list back in 2014.
Re: 2016 Season General Comments (pressers, practice notes,
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:00 am
by Pondering Her Percy
Rapsheet just reported that it WAS Newman after all that instigated this. Something is telling me Newman was a little bitter he wasn't playing as much anymore and maybe wanted to prove a point to Zimmer that he could still cover a guy like Nelson.