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Agree 100%....thank you for some well timed logic losperroslosperros wrote: The Vikings already have competent receivers that get open and can catch. Now what they need are passes that can be caught, especially on the deep routes. The quality of this group of receivers is the last thing I worry about when compared to the #### pass blocking and some of Teddy's shortcomings that need fixing.
I sure hope we DO NOT waste a high pick for a WR when the obvious deficiencies are at OL and S.
So if Bridgewater just keeps playing the way he played to end this season you'd be OK with that?fiestavike wrote: Nobody has said or intimated he needs to "make major changes" to his mechanics except Ben Goessling and several people on this board.
Its a false perception.
From what I've seen and what the stats indicate, the Vikings do have receivers who can get open and (mostly) catch the ball, but they aren't very dynamic once it is in their hands. Diggs was the only WR I saw that consistently seemed to be a threat to break away after making a catch. The others guys were capable of getting open, but didn't seem to present many problems beyond that.losperros wrote: The Vikings already have competent receivers that get open and can catch. Now what they need are passes that can be caught, especially on the deep routes. The quality of this group of receivers is the last thing I worry about when compared to the #### pass blocking and some of Teddy's shortcomings that need fixing.
Hopefully Spielman can help get that resolved over the offseason. I personally am not convinced that Bridgewater will be more aggressive simply because he has more time. He seemed to struggle with his downfield recognition all year regardless of whether he had time in the pocket.IrishViking wrote: 1 passing touchdown in 3 games is pretty poor but it has a lot more to do with the pressure he was under than anything else.
What play was it that he had time in the pocketVikingLord wrote: Hopefully Spielman can help get that resolved over the offseason. I personally am not convinced that Bridgewater will be more aggressive simply because he has more time. He seemed to struggle with his downfield recognition all year regardless of whether he had time in the pocket.
Was there one of those 
I remember him and Ponder running for their lives on most passing downs. This o-line blatantly sucks/sucked over the last several years when it comes to pass protection. To me, revamping that o-line will make a tremendous difference.Some of that would probably change with different scheming and including Johnson and Patterson in the passing game. I agree that Diggs runs well after the catch. Actually, I think Wright does too, depending on what kind of pass is thrown to him.VikingLord wrote:From what I've seen and what the stats indicate, the Vikings do have receivers who can get open and (mostly) catch the ball, but they aren't very dynamic once it is in their hands. Diggs was the only WR I saw that consistently seemed to be a threat to break away after making a catch. The others guys were capable of getting open, but didn't seem to present many problems beyond that.
losperros wrote: Some of that would probably change with different scheming and including Johnson and Patterson in the passing game. I agree that Diggs runs well after the catch. Actually, I think Wright does too, depending on what kind of pass is thrown to him.
Diggs, Wright, Johnson and Wallace have all shown decent run after the catch ability. Cordarelle Patterson has shown exceptional RAC ability, unfortunately he hasn't shown the "catch" ability effectively.losperros wrote: Some of that would probably change with different scheming and including Johnson and Patterson in the passing game. I agree that Diggs runs well after the catch. Actually, I think Wright does too, depending on what kind of pass is thrown to him.
chicagopurple wrote:anyone who is satisfied with how Teddy is performing has already conceded that we will NEVER be a contender. He is NOT good enough, yet. Not by a long shot. Its time for him to show his stuff or become a back up. The TEAM is obligated to provide him an new OL and maybe one more good receiver.
You know Jim, Teddy being aggressive and having confidence that there is NOT a throw that he cannot make is a big difference. Coaches start monkeying with his mechanics along with his lack of confidence in it could be a recipe for disaster.Mothman wrote: I think you're right to be concerned. We have a thread on the board right now about Adrian Peterson being the "elephant in the room" but that idiom might be even more appropriate for Bridgewater. His disappointing second season strikes me as an uncomfortable truth many are understandably reluctant to discuss. As another saying goes, winning covers up a lot of flaws. It helped cover Bridgewater's in 2015. His mechanics and, indeed, his overall performance should be a legitimate concern to the Vikings going forward. I think you raised a good point with the "confidence curve" that could accompany a change in mechanics too. Bridgewater has also acknowledged that he needs to be aggressive next year but a change in mindset like that might be very difficult for a QB who clearly prefers to make the safe throw.
Purple Reign wrote: I am also concerned. Isn't this pretty much the same thing Fraiser said about Ponder after about every game, that most of Ponder's issues were just some minor mechanics that could be corrected with practice? Look how that turned out.
Dude, did TB pee in your wheaties? He is the best young QB the Vikes have had since Cullpepper. His improving record speaks for itself. Zimmer has recently said that he LOVES TB and that TB is this teams QB. His team mates all seem to respect him and accept him as their QB. If somehow writing a 1000 posts about how much you hate him helps you, then rant on. But rest assure TB is and will continue to be the Viking's QB for a very long time. Get used to the idea or get over it would be my best advice.mosscarter wrote:how can you say he isn't bad irishviking? how many field goals did walsh kick in the giants game and then he was asked to kick 4 more two weeks later and missed a crucial one. when you put that much pressure on your kicker throughout the season he's bound to miss some. great golfers miss short putts all the time. i'm simply trying to look down the road i want to see this kid do well (believe it or not), but i haven't seen one single sign of improvement. someone said i'm not contributing to the board, well explain to me how teddy bridgewater improved at all this season because i didn't see one area. really, enlighten me as to how he's gotten better. the line stunk last year and he did a better job then (and without wallace or diggs).
and i have to be honest i don't buy the fact that wallace, johnson, and patterson are all basically useless. mike wallace did well with every other team he was on and yet didn't have a single 100 yard game the entire season? he's one of the fastest players in the league and people are saying he can't get open? he wasn't the problem. either way, this season seriously hurt him financially he won't make half of what he was making.