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I haven't posted in forever on here, I'm really concerned that Rhodes seemingly got torched by Michael Thomas in the second half for 2 TDs doesn't seem like anyone is talking about it. just wondering if anyone knows or has seen anything on it like if his injury is still nagging, or if it was because the pass rush couldn't get to Brees in the second half, or just that he got rattled and emotional after sendejo was knocked out. I live in Florida so I don't get a ton of news about the Vikings other than nfl and Vikings. com


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I haven't posted in forever on here, I'm really concerned that Rhodes seemingly got torched by Michael Thomas in the second half for 2 TDs doesn't seem like anyone is talking about it. just wondering if anyone knows or has seen anything on it like if his injury is still nagging, or if it was because the pass rush couldn't get to Brees in the second half, or just that he got rattled and emotional after sendejo was knocked out. I live in Florida so I don't get a ton of news about the Vikings other than nfl and Vikings. com


I have been concerned about this too. He definitely seemed different in the second half. I haven't seen any news or commentary on "Open Rhodes" I'm not too concerned as we head into the Philly game, I think the biggest threat against Philly is going to be stopping the run. Their top 3 receiver threats look to be Jeffrey, Ahgolar and Ertz. I don't think Foles will be able to make too many passes due to hurries, hits and hopefully some bad a$$ sacks. I am more concerned about Sendejo and Harris. (Concussion/Knee, respectively)

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You have to give credit to Thomas as well he is a pretty good receiver. Those guys get paid to you know?

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You have to give credit to Thomas as well he is a pretty good receiver. Those guys get paid to you know?


I know they get paid too. just when you're used to seeing Rhodes shut down the likes of brown, Julio Jones, Odell, and other elite receivers it just really worries me he gave up 2 TDs to Thomas. I had Thomas in fantasy this year he basically had his best game of the year against Rhodes hence my concern. hopefully Rhodes gets back to his old self this weekend!


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You have to give credit to Thomas as well he is a pretty good receiver. Those guys get paid to you know?


I know they get paid too. just when you're used to seeing Rhodes shut down the likes of brown, Julio Jones, Odell, and other elite receivers it just really worries me he gave up 2 TDs to Thomas. I had Thomas in fantasy this year he basically had his best game of the year against Rhodes hence my concern. hopefully Rhodes gets back to his old self this weekend!


I do think you have a point though. Did we ever learn what Rhodes injury was? Groin??

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You have to give credit to Thomas as well he is a pretty good receiver. Those guys get paid to you know?


I know they get paid too. just when you're used to seeing Rhodes shut down the likes of brown, Julio Jones, Odell, and other elite receivers it just really worries me he gave up 2 TDs to Thomas. I had Thomas in fantasy this year he basically had his best game of the year against Rhodes hence my concern. hopefully Rhodes gets back to his old self this weekend!


I do think you have a point though. Did we ever learn what Rhodes injury was? Groin??


Nah. Lower body of some kind. He's been dealing with a lower body something for weeks. Rarely listed on weekly injury reports though.

Thomas is an excellent route runner (my favorite receiver out of that draft class). He's going to get his most games. Rhodes has historically fared better on Alshon.

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Rhodes is tough as hell. Seems like he always gets banged up then comes right back out. I'm not sure we'll ever find out what's bothering him, but it's probably something.


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I understand the concern, because we are not used to seeing ANYONE beat Rhodes, ever, much less twice.

Go back and watch the last Saints' drive though. Rhodes was in beast mode. He swatted one pass away and defended another with blanket protection. It was Mac Alexander that got torched (by a TE no less) on that 4th and 10. The fact that Rhodes played so well on that last drive makes me feel better about his potential injury issue.

I think Rhodes lost his composure against Thomas. He got out-Xaviered by him. Thomas was trying to get in his face and be very physical. Rhodes let it get in his head and it impeded him from playing his best ball.


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Maybe against Philly he'll come back with a little "axe to grid" or a "chip on his shoulder" :whistle: :rock:

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I understand the concern, because we are not used to seeing ANYONE beat Rhodes, ever, much less twice.

Go back and watch the last Saints' drive though. Rhodes was in beast mode. He swatted one pass away and defended another with blanket protection. It was Mac Alexander that got torched (by a TE no less) on that 4th and 10. The fact that Rhodes played so well on that last drive makes me feel better about his potential injury issue.

I think Rhodes lost his composure against Thomas. He got out-Xaviered by him. Thomas was trying to get in his face and be very physical. Rhodes let it get in his head and it impeded him from playing his best ball.

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Agree completely. Rhodes has been banged up, but he played well enough against Nola until he got upset about the Michael Thomas take-out of Andrew Sendejo. He kind of lost his way emotionally for awhile.

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I'm not worried. He's played Jeffery many many times from him being in Chicago and he's handled him every time. No less, Jeffery has done very little since Foles has been in. Their WRs do not scare me whatsoever. Our DBs trump their WRs by a mile.

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Rhodes admitted after the game he lost his concentration and he cannot allow that to happen again.


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Rhodes admitted after the game he lost his concentration and he cannot allow that to happen again.


Rhodes lost his edge after Sendejo got knocked out. That was a real turning point in the game. Rhodes was livid and his play was effected.


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I will say this about Rhodes: He cares about his teammates over the game itself. That's one of the greatest qualities in him, if you ask me. The game is secondary over the health and well-being of his team.


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Go back and watch the last Saints' drive though. Rhodes was in beast mode. He swatted one pass away and defended another with blanket protection. It was Mac Alexander that got torched (by a TE no less) on that 4th and 10. The fact that Rhodes played so well on that last drive makes me feel better about his potential injury issue.


Speaking of that 4th-and-10, I am still shocked that was completed so easily. The Vikes had the Saints right where they wanted them and are normally very tough to convert on 3rd-and-7 or longer, so I thought the Saints were cooked on that play.

I expected them to send an extra man after Brees to ensure a throw short of the sticks and then all the defender in coverage would have to do is make the tackle and the game would be over. Instead, the Vikes seemingly sat back in coverage, rushed only 4, and as a result, Brees had plenty of time to let the deeper routes develop and the DBs seemed content with letting the deeper routes develop uncontested. I didn't see all the routes or defenders on the play, but every Saint receiver should have been manned up at the LOS and bumped as soon as possible after the snap. With an extra rusher and all routes disrupted/contested immediately after the snap, Brees and the Saints would have needed a miracle to get more than 5 yards on any throw. This game was a home game, very loud crowd noise at that point, and the defense should have the moxie to go out there and snuff that out and end the game. Amazing, and almost disturbing, passiveness there and it really should have cost them.


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Go back and watch the last Saints' drive though. Rhodes was in beast mode. He swatted one pass away and defended another with blanket protection. It was Mac Alexander that got torched (by a TE no less) on that 4th and 10. The fact that Rhodes played so well on that last drive makes me feel better about his potential injury issue.


Speaking of that 4th-and-10, I am still shocked that was completed so easily. The Vikes had the Saints right where they wanted them and are normally very tough to convert on 3rd-and-7 or longer, so I thought the Saints were cooked on that play.

I expected them to send an extra man after Brees to ensure a throw short of the sticks and then all the defender in coverage would have to do is make the tackle and the game would be over. Instead, the Vikes seemingly sat back in coverage, rushed only 4, and as a result, Brees had plenty of time to let the deeper routes develop and the DBs seemed content with letting the deeper routes develop uncontested. I didn't see all the routes or defenders on the play, but every Saint receiver should have been manned up at the LOS and bumped as soon as possible after the snap. With an extra rusher and all routes disrupted/contested immediately after the snap, Brees and the Saints would have needed a miracle to get more than 5 yards on any throw. This game was a home game, very loud crowd noise at that point, and the defense should have the moxie to go out there and snuff that out and end the game. Amazing, and almost disturbing, passiveness there and it really should have cost them.


Completely agree on this point. It was CRAZY loud at this point. Honestly, what I can remember from the game is that we simply didn't look ready. Our D looked gassed and a bit chaotic. If we had lost because of not getting a stop on 4th a 10, I'd have been really disappointed.

I was mistaken. It wasn't a TE; it was Snead who burned Alexander. He was the WR that was wide open on the previous drive when they dialed up a flea flicker on 3rd and 1 and the RB simply over threw the ball.


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The Saints are a great offense with that
two headed monster at running back and
Thomas .. Pittsburg might be the only
better offensive weapon loaded team.

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Go back and watch the last Saints' drive though. Rhodes was in beast mode. He swatted one pass away and defended another with blanket protection. It was Mac Alexander that got torched (by a TE no less) on that 4th and 10. The fact that Rhodes played so well on that last drive makes me feel better about his potential injury issue.


Speaking of that 4th-and-10, I am still shocked that was completed so easily. The Vikes had the Saints right where they wanted them and are normally very tough to convert on 3rd-and-7 or longer, so I thought the Saints were cooked on that play.

I expected them to send an extra man after Brees to ensure a throw short of the sticks and then all the defender in coverage would have to do is make the tackle and the game would be over. Instead, the Vikes seemingly sat back in coverage, rushed only 4, and as a result, Brees had plenty of time to let the deeper routes develop and the DBs seemed content with letting the deeper routes develop uncontested. I didn't see all the routes or defenders on the play, but every Saint receiver should have been manned up at the LOS and bumped as soon as possible after the snap. With an extra rusher and all routes disrupted/contested immediately after the snap, Brees and the Saints would have needed a miracle to get more than 5 yards on any throw. This game was a home game, very loud crowd noise at that point, and the defense should have the moxie to go out there and snuff that out and end the game. Amazing, and almost disturbing, passiveness there and it really should have cost them.


Completely agree on this point. It was CRAZY loud at this point. Honestly, what I can remember from the game is that we simply didn't look ready. Our D looked gassed and a bit chaotic. If we had lost because of not getting a stop on 4th a 10, I'd have been really disappointed.

I was mistaken. It wasn't a TE; it was Snead who burned Alexander. He was the WR that was wide open on the previous drive when they dialed up a flea flicker on 3rd and 1 and the RB simply over threw the ball.


Nevermind...Read that wrong.


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Thor88 wrote:
I haven't posted in forever on here, I'm really concerned that Rhodes seemingly got torched by Michael Thomas in the second half for 2 TDs doesn't seem like anyone is talking about it.


Rhodes only gave up 1 TD against Thomas. Newman was in coverage against Thomas on the other TD. In fact, Thomas was only 3 for 8 for 46 yards and 1 TD against Rhodes. And as TexasVike pointed out, Rhodes was in beast mode the last drive. Not his best game, but certainly not a horrible one.


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Watched the end of the game again...That last Saints drive, Saints went to Thomas the first 3 plays and Rhodes shut him down each time to set up that 4th and 10 that the Saints ultimately converted. He's fine. :D


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I haven't posted in forever on here, I'm really concerned that Rhodes seemingly got torched by Michael Thomas in the second half for 2 TDs doesn't seem like anyone is talking about it.


Rhodes only gave up 1 TD against Thomas. Newman was in coverage against Thomas on the other TD. In fact, Thomas was only 3 for 8 for 46 yards and 1 TD against Rhodes. And as TexasVike pointed out, Rhodes was in beast mode the last drive. Not his best game, but certainly not a horrible one.


I could have sworn it was rhodes on the 2nd TD as well when i was watching, if i was wrong i guess it was a whole lot of nothing but he's gotta keep his head in the game


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Definitely Newman on the second TD - if memory serves think Rhodes was off the field at the time. First he lost his head after the Sendejo hit..

as others have mentioned though Brees went to his no.1 weapon three times in a row when he needed him and Rhodes (with a bit of help from Smith admittedly) shut it down - game was won there if Alexander didn't get burned in man coverage on the 4-10.


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Definitely Newman on the second TD - if memory serves think Rhodes was off the field at the time. First he lost his head after the Sendejo hit..

as others have mentioned though Brees went to his no.1 weapon three times in a row when he needed him and Rhodes (with a bit of help from Smith admittedly) shut it down - game was won there if Alexander didn't get burned in man coverage on the 4-10.


IIRC, Newman barely moved and Thomas was in the end zone already. It was brutal, and Zimmer should have used a better matchup on that one, IMO.

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Definitely Newman on the second TD - if memory serves think Rhodes was off the field at the time. First he lost his head after the Sendejo hit..

as others have mentioned though Brees went to his no.1 weapon three times in a row when he needed him and Rhodes (with a bit of help from Smith admittedly) shut it down - game was won there if Alexander didn't get burned in man coverage on the 4-10.


IIRC, Newman barely moved and Thomas was in the end zone already. It was brutal, and Zimmer should have used a better matchup on that one, IMO.



Yes. Rhodes got hurt and came out on the previous play. I knew as soon as I saw Brees within 10 yards of the end zone against a Rhodes-less secondary that we were screwed.

Foles isn't Brees. This matchup is going to be very different. I really hope Sendejo is able to play; we need him.


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Rhodes got emotional and heated over the cheap shot Thomas took on Sandejo that gave him a concussion, but was a non-call by the refs. Zimmer eventually had to calm him down.

Rhodes will be fine. You can't get too down on a guy for rallying to his teammate like that. Would you want your teammate to just be ho-hum if that happened to you right in front of him like that? That was a critical juncture in the game as losing Sandejo is what lead to our defense being more porous that it had been to that point. (never thought I'd write that sentence...)

Thomas also took some shots at Rhodes and even went at it with him on Twitter. Funny thing, Patrick Petersen came to Rhodes defense mocking Thomas for his otherwise lack-luster performance.

Thomas is officially my least favorite current Saints player, he has officially earned a place in their long standing tradition of cheap shot artists.

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I understand the concern, because we are not used to seeing ANYONE beat Rhodes, ever, much less twice.

Go back and watch the last Saints' drive though. Rhodes was in beast mode. He swatted one pass away and defended another with blanket protection. It was Mac Alexander that got torched (by a TE no less) on that 4th and 10. The fact that Rhodes played so well on that last drive makes me feel better about his potential injury issue.

I think Rhodes lost his composure against Thomas. He got out-Xaviered by him. Thomas was trying to get in his face and be very physical. Rhodes let it get in his head and it impeded him from playing his best ball.

True enough. I had concerns about Rhodes getting beat by Thomas several times, though a few of Thomas's catches were against other defenders (including the second TD when Rhodes went out after getting shaken up near the 3-yard line, and Thomas made a play against Newman). On his one TD against Rhodes, Thomas just accelerated past him right off the line on a sharp slant and Rhodes was about a foot away from knocking the ball away. Rhodes definitely looked sharp on that last drive. Alexander, on the other hand, was beat at least twice fairly badly -- including the 4th down play.


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