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Holy crap, what is going on?


I'm answering because I assume you are not watching.
Audie Cole had back to back pick 6s.

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An inexact quote from Cory Cove during KFAN's coverage of the draft after they drafted Audie Cole; "We drafted a slow weak guy!" Ripped him for quite a bit if I remember correctly.

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I watched this whole game thinking that was Brian Billick in the booth with Paul Allen. Am I imagining it, or does Pete Bercich sound just like Billick?


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Ohiovike wrote:
Holy crap, what is going on?


I'm answering because I assume you are not watching.
Audie Cole had back to back pick 6s.


Frickin awesome, and no I really didn't know.


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Good game. Ponder did good. I just hope Cole isnt one of those guys everyone wants to make it, and then doesnt. Theres got to be a spot for him.


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I just hope Cole isnt one of those guys everyone wants to make it, and then doesnt. Theres got to be a spot for him.


With a sack in the first preseason game and two pick sixes in the second along with some good tackles, I have to think there will be a spot for him on a team that needs depth at LB. I hope we see some fireworks from him next week.


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Raw rookie in Cole but he shows more in one pre season game than Brinley has in two seasons and he can cover.

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Well that was fun.


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Audie Cole could be a real find. Middle linebacker is a lot of instinct and less combine numbers and flash. Cole looks like he has some pretty good instincts. Tyrone McKenzie has also looked pretty good in the middle these first two preseason games. Both of them appear to be better than Jasper Brinkley. I think the coaches may be thinking the same thing with how long they played Brinkley tonight. It looks like they have some doubts about who the starter will be.


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There were a few of us that wanted to see Cole a Viking on draft day, glad he's having a good preseason so far.


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It was nice to see Ponder have a real sharp first quarter...and that they have real options within their linebacker depth. I hope Jerome Simpson doesn't jump over another wide receiver all year. They can't afford for him to have a serious knee injury...his backups are horrible. I"m at the point where I'd almost say "Chad Johnson's looking for a job...hmmm..." Not quite, as he's got legal problems...but watching Burton fumble, watching Aromashodu...ugh. Can't even figure out whether they should keep Aroma or Arceneaux. One looks better one game, one looks better the next...

I really liked the Audie Cole pick when they made it, though I didn't expect him to have ball instincts like that! I thought he'd be more of a tackler than a ballhawk.

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I don't want to take anything away from Cole. I like him and was smiling like a fool after his second pick-six. BUT...tempered expectations...this is preseason, against second/third string QBs/TEs running the same handful of basic plays. Still, it's awesome to see and he's done so much more than Brinkley so far. Hope he makes the team.

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It was nice to see Ponder have a real sharp first quarter...and that they have real options within their linebacker depth. I hope Jerome Simpson doesn't jump over another wide receiver all year. They can't afford for him to have a serious knee injury...his backups are horrible. I"m at the point where I'd almost say "Chad Johnson's looking for a job...hmmm..." Not quite, as he's got legal problems...but watching Burton fumble, watching Aromashodu...ugh. Can't even figure out whether they should keep Aroma or Arceneaux. One looks better one game, one looks better the next...

I really liked the Audie Cole pick when they made it, though I didn't expect him to have ball instincts like that! I thought he'd be more of a tackler than a ballhawk.


I can't really blame Aromashodu, though. He was placed in some tough situations tonight. As I stated earlier in the thread. Two passes were thrown out of bounds, the pass in the end zone was clearly pass interference but the refs missed it. And when your at full stride trying to catch a ball that was thrown behind you is really tough. I think it could have easily gone the complete opposite if the passes were thrown on target.

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There were a few of us that wanted to see Cole a Viking on draft day, glad he's having a good preseason so far.


I didn't know anything about Cole when they drafted him, except what I heard live on the radio during the draft. I have to say, I was rooting for him from then just because he was an unknown and was getting ripped by certain KFAN personalities at the time for his combine stats. I guess I have a soft spot for the underdog. Preseason is preseason and we all know that, but I hope he keeps up the good work and will have a spot on the Vikings squad.


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Not quite, as he's got legal problems...but watching Burton fumble, watching Aromashodu...ugh.


Joe Webb wasn't exactly throwing balls that Aromashodu could catch. And on at least one other play, he was completely interfered with and had no way to come back to the ball. Yeah, Burton had a fumble, but at he also gets open. He did a nice job blocking on a few plays, too, including Webb's long run.


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Frazier on Harrison Smith: "We’re counting on him to be the starter, and I haven’t seen anything ... that I would say is a setback."


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The dome crowd started at wave that literally lasted thirty minutes. People throwing programs into the air when the wave hit their section. For a Pre season game... Hell of a time.

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Raw rookie in Cole but he shows more in one pre season game than Brinley has in two seasons and he can cover.


Exactly! But this coaching staff loves big strong run stuffers that literally cost the team games in coverage. They continue to try and force Brinkley, even though he wasn't that good before, and is even worse now.

Brinkleys whiff on that blitz was a thing of beauty. It takes a truly "special" talent to manage that. :lol:

Cole might not be fast, or strong. But he has good instincts and clearly has a better grasp for the position than Brinkley ever has or ever will.


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@TomPelissero: Don't see much progress here with Jasper Brinkley. Still looks way too tentative. I really wonder if they're going to go to Plan B. #Vikings


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Raw rookie in Cole but he shows more in one pre season game than Brinley has in two seasons and he can cover.


Exactly! But this coaching staff loves big strong run stuffers that literally cost the team games in coverage. They continue to try and force Brinkley, even though he wasn't that good before, and is even worse now.

Brinkleys whiff on that blitz was a thing of beauty. It takes a truly "special" talent to manage that. :lol:

Cole might not be fast, or strong. But he has good instincts and clearly has a better grasp for the position than Brinkley ever has or ever will.


I didn't get to see the two Cole INT's, so when I watched the highlights I thought they would both be sort of "oops" plays where Cole just got lucky, but neither of them were. On both Cole recognized pass quickly, got into his drop, watched the QB's eyes, located the target, and jumped it. Perfect MLB play in a Tampa 2. I don't know how Cole does in practice, but from what I've seen of him in games he has that rare thing that can't be taught - instincts. Given what the Vikings have at MLB, I'd get him on the field with the starters for the remaining two preseason games and see if he can do it against the opponent's starters.


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whewwwwwwwwwwwwww !!!! best i seen the vikings play in awhile. love too see some consistency out of the defense and ponder. :banana:


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Cole might not be fast, or strong. But he has good instincts and clearly has a better grasp for the position than Brinkley ever has or ever will.



Just gotta wonder how Cole could possibly be buried in the depth chart if he keeps making these plays, preseason games or not. Maybe I'm missing something here. Maybe it's because he's playing against other second and third stringers, but what I'm seeing is Cole makes big plays happen. It's not luck either. He reads the play and then reacts.

I mean, sooner or later it seems that Cole has to be looked at as being someone who should be playing earlier than the 4th quarter.


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Interesting nugget here.

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One week after giving up 260 yards rushing to San Francisco in the exhibition opener, the Vikings held the Bills to only 68 yards on 20 carries (3.4 average).

They did it with more sound fundamentals, but also a strategic change that could be a sign of things to come for their Tampa-2 scheme.

In 13 gradable snaps with all or most of the starters on the field, the Vikings played a two-deep look only three times -- the first snap of each series. They repeatedly rolled Harrison Smith, Mistral Raymond or Jamarca Sanford down to match up in coverage, blitz and help against the run, with mostly favorable returns.

Raymond stopped Jackson for a 2-yard loss on a run blitz on the opening series and then made an aggressive move out of quarters coverage to stick Jackson after a 1-yard reception on the next snap, halting the Bills' opening drive. Minutes later, Smith batted down a pass on an inside blitz to end the Bills' second drive.

The Bills didn't burn them until the third drive, when Sanford took a false step as Donald Jones crossed his face and won the race to the pylon for a 31-yard touchdown. The Vikings reinserted Raymond on the next drive.

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Interesting nugget here.

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Changing it up

One week after giving up 260 yards rushing to San Francisco in the exhibition opener, the Vikings held the Bills to only 68 yards on 20 carries (3.4 average).

They did it with more sound fundamentals, but also a strategic change that could be a sign of things to come for their Tampa-2 scheme.

In 13 gradable snaps with all or most of the starters on the field, the Vikings played a two-deep look only three times -- the first snap of each series. They repeatedly rolled Harrison Smith, Mistral Raymond or Jamarca Sanford down to match up in coverage, blitz and help against the run, with mostly favorable returns.

Raymond stopped Jackson for a 2-yard loss on a run blitz on the opening series and then made an aggressive move out of quarters coverage to stick Jackson after a 1-yard reception on the next snap, halting the Bills' opening drive. Minutes later, Smith batted down a pass on an inside blitz to end the Bills' second drive.

The Bills didn't burn them until the third drive, when Sanford took a false step as Donald Jones crossed his face and won the race to the pylon for a 31-yard touchdown. The Vikings reinserted Raymond on the next drive.

http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Note ... sues081812


Good "stuff" and sounds very promising :rock:

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The dome crowd started at wave that literally lasted thirty minutes. People throwing programs into the air when the wave hit their section. For a Pre season game... Hell of a time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fglWjfY ... r_embedded

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I think that's a lot easier, and safer, against the Bills offense than some others we'll face though. But at least it's nice to see them trying out some different things.


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The dome crowd started at wave that literally lasted thirty minutes. People throwing programs into the air when the wave hit their section. For a Pre season game... Hell of a time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fglWjfY ... r_embedded


That reminds me of the game at TCF stadium where they were tossing snow up into the air. Man, there really needs to be some home outdoor games (during the winter)


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