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Should Percy be the primary KO Returner?

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Percy Harvin Kickoff Returns

Post by PurpleMustReign » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:54 pm

Without getting into pissing matches, I am curious about what everyone's opinions are as far as Percy returning kicks (Kickoffs, not punts).

IMO, I think he should be the primary KO returner because whenever he does it is electric. Even when he doesn't score, it seems he is just one tackle away from breaking it. If you look at Percy Harvin Kickoff Returns on YouTube (or Percy Harvin Highlights), it is easy to see that there are not many players better than him at returns.

What do you all think?
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Re: Percy Harvin Kickoff Returns

Post by losperros » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:22 pm

I'm voting yes simply because Harvin is darn good at returning kicks, which helps the team.
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Re: Percy Harvin Kickoff Returns

Post by BGM » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:02 pm

I'm voting no. The reason is that I believe he is more valuable as an offensive threat and I believe that KO return duty would shorten his career and effectiveness with the offense. Hester is a singular return talent, and I'd love to have a Hester-clone with the Vikings, but Harvin isn't him. What he adds to the offense is far more vital, IMO.
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Re: Percy Harvin Kickoff Returns

Post by PurpleMustReign » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:00 pm

BGM wrote:I'm voting no. The reason is that I believe he is more valuable as an offensive threat and I believe that KO return duty would shorten his career and effectiveness with the offense. Hester is a singular return talent, and I'd love to have a Hester-clone with the Vikings, but Harvin isn't him. What he adds to the offense is far more vital, IMO.
You idiot!

Just kiddig. I totally get that angle. What about when the team needs a spark, like if they are down by 4 with 45 secods left to GB or something? Kind of like "spot duty" KO Returns?
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Re: Percy Harvin Kickoff Returns

Post by BGM » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:07 pm

PurpleMustReign wrote: You idiot!

Just kiddig. I totally get that angle. What about when the team needs a spark, like if they are down by 4 with 45 secods left to GB or something? Kind of like "spot duty" KO Returns?
I honestly still say no. The force at which ST players collide and the angles they hit seem tailor-made to increase the chance of injury. Of course, I have no hard data with which to support that position, but those hits, even in limited action, take their toll. There are other players with speed and agility who could help provide that spark as well, and if that is the goal, why not have AD return kicks? :wink:
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Re: Percy Harvin Kickoff Returns

Post by Mercy Percy » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:54 pm

As awesome and explosive he is he needs to be out there every play on offense but if they need him in the 4th or die of need situations I think you put him back there.
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Re: Percy Harvin Kickoff Returns

Post by Eli » Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:03 am

I say yes. Not the primary KR ... the only KR. I want to see him on the field for every kickoff that the Vikings take.

Two things:

1. How many kickoffs are even returnable any more? If he takes some big chances and brings out anything less than 8 yards deep, I would guess less than half of them.

2. The Vikings are unlikely to be a scoring juggernaut for the foreseeable future. Which mean they'll see fewer kickoffs than the average team would.
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Re: Percy Harvin Kickoff Returns

Post by Mothman » Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:50 am

PurpleMustReign wrote: You idiot!

Just kiddig. I totally get that angle. What about when the team needs a spark, like if they are down by 4 with 45 secods left to GB or something? Kind of like "spot duty" KO Returns?
That's what I'd favor. I think he should be used as a KO returner, just not as the primary KO returner. I think that would take too much out of him over the course of a season and, as Brian said, he's too vital to the offense to do that. I'd use him strategically during the regular season and make him the primary returner in playoff games.
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Re: Percy Harvin Kickoff Returns

Post by glg » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:57 am

Eli wrote:2. The Vikings are unlikely to be a scoring juggernaut for the foreseeable future. Which mean they'll see fewer kickoffs than the average team would.
Wouldn't number of kickoffs seen relate to the defense not the offense?
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Re: Percy Harvin Kickoff Returns

Post by HardcoreVikesFan » Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:14 pm

I have been pushing for Harvin to the be main KR for a long time. He is simply too dangerous to not have return kicks.
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Re: Percy Harvin Kickoff Returns

Post by PurpleKoolaid » Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:24 pm

Unless one of the rookies, or ST guys, can prove they are better, ofc he should. Hes one of the best at it.
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Re: Percy Harvin Kickoff Returns

Post by radar55 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:14 pm

Should he be back there........absolutely........ but only on K/O's where he has a little extra time to field the ball cleanly and to see a seam that he feels he can take advantage of by returning it. If the ball is kicked into the end zone and he does'nt see anything then there is no risk of injury and we get the ball at the 20 but....... how often do we hear "this is a game of field position"?

IMO Having Harvin returning K/O's would certainly give the offense improved field position to start drives and that improved field position could be the difference between scoring points and punting the ball away.
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Re: Percy Harvin Kickoff Returns

Post by Eli » Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:52 pm

glg wrote: Wouldn't number of kickoffs seen relate to the defense not the offense?
Doh!! Maybe _more_ than the average team. :oops:
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Re: Percy Harvin Kickoff Returns

Post by The Breeze » Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:12 pm

I'm all for having him back there. I understand the wear and tear\injury POV....but I think the risk is overblown. In fact, i'm of the opinion that the guys getting hurt on returns are rarely the ball carriers. It's usually guys getting hit while they're looking elsewhere. Can't even remember the last time I saw a guy get hurt on a kickoff and it was the return man.
I do think it would add some wear and tear...but if the guy is only seeing 50% of the offensive snaps in the first place then use him back there. He's a threat to go for 6 every time. Hester is the only guy better IMO
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Re: Percy Harvin Kickoff Returns

Post by Mercy Percy » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:15 pm

The Breeze wrote:I'm all for having him back there. I understand the wear and tear\injury POV....but I think the risk is overblown. In fact, i'm of the opinion that the guys getting hurt on returns are rarely the ball carriers. It's usually guys getting hit while they're looking elsewhere. Can't even remember the last time I saw a guy get hurt on a kickoff and it was the return man.
I do think it would add some wear and tear...but if the guy is only seeing 50% of the offensive snaps in the first place then use him back there. He's a threat to go for 6 every time. Hester is the only guy better IMO

I agree with you too but I think Patrick Peterson is actually better than Hester and Percy at the return game.
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