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Obviously, we need a Favre thread again this year. I'm already sick of seeing 40 threads about him. I really started this on 2/12, but I'm backdating the post so it'll be the start of the thread. Anything will he/won't he will get merged into here. Ones about what to do without him won't.

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Thats just the media. #### that! Before next season begins, we are going to see many articles about that. chill out. He's just trying not to commit to anything after a game like that.

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Post Re: Favre: Return in 2010 "highly unlikely"
First off, the story comes from ESPN. Secondly, the story comes from Ed Werder, who time and time again has been proven to have ZERO credibility. Remember all the bunk reports he had this past summer about Childress setting a deadline for Favre? I also remember he caused a big stink within the Cowboys organization a few years ago for reporting false information. Any "news" that comes from Werder should be met with laughter and rolling of the eyes.

Yes, there's a chance that Favre will retire. Obviously everyone realizes this. The only reason Werder reported this is so he can pat himself on the back like a schmuck and say "I BROKE THE STORY" if Favre indeed decides to hang it up. The guy is a hack journalist and is trying to make a name for himself.

Also, on KFAN this morning during PA's show, he interviewed Ryan Longwell, who is Favre's best friend on the team and has known him the longest. Longwell couldn't say one way or another, but he DID say that he's fairly confident Favre made his decision weeks ago, and that during the plane ride back to Minneapolis last night, Favre remarked to him that he loves this team and this group of guys. Take it as you will, but I think it's a bit early to say "He's Done". Favre has a lot to ponder in the coming days/weeks, and that involves more than just the outcome of yesterday's game.


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well i surely hope he does, all i'm saying is i dont think he will.


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Favre has a lot to ponder in the coming days/weeks, and that involves more than just the outcome of yesterday's game.


days/weeks? try months! Unless we trade for McNabb, anybody we go get would take the bench if Favre decides he wants back in, just like this year.

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Post Re: Favre: Return in 2010 "highly unlikely"
I hope Favre comes back. That being said, if I was him, I wouldn't. The media over-hypes his changing his mind and blows it up out of proportion, then they attack him for it. The former players in media are jealous of his longevity and make him out to be a villain. He proved so many of them wrong this season be performing at a high level.


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The former players in media are jealous of his longevity and make him out to be a villain.


I never looked at it that way, and I think there's some truth to it.


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I think he's finally done. The last two games he looked worn out after the game. Just worn out looking. Physically I think he now beleives he's done. But let's see next July/August.


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Post Re: Favre: Return in 2010 "highly unlikely"
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I think he's finally done. The last two games he looked worn out after the game. Just worn out looking..


Well, I think most guys are worn out at this point in the season. No one escapes unscathed. That's just the reality of the game.

But ya, a 40 year old body can only take so much punishment. He's the friggin' Iron Man though and his performance yesterday proved it yet again. I think he realizes he needs to take some time away and heal up before he makes any decision. If it takes him a lot longer than normal to heal, then ya I think he'll probably call it good.


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Post Re: Favre: Return in 2010 "highly unlikely"
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I think he's finally done. The last two games he looked worn out after the game. Just worn out looking. Physically I think he now beleives he's done. But let's see next July/August.


Yep. It's a long time between now and the start of next season. Unlike Ted Thompson, I don't see us pressuring Favre for a decision.

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I'll believe him when I see someone else under center Week 1 next year


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Post Re: Favre: Return in 2010 "highly unlikely"
That this has already come out in the media is not suprising. On all the local sports shows they have already been talking up the Favre offseason drama as if we are already in the thick of it. The fact is these guys all get paid to talk and they all feed off each other. Factor in that in terms of fan interest the NFL and Football in general is head and shoulders above all the other sports. So these guys are going to milk this as much as they can since they to are now entering their own "offseason."

My money is that nothing of note has happened yet and we will be lucky to have any clue with regards to what is going on before June. I still think the best thing they could do is tell Favre that if he wants the Job it is his and they don't care if he misses the preseason stuff. Then let Favre do his usualy media act and leave it at that.

Another thing to consider is the narrative the media had last summer. Favre retiring for the umpteenth time, Favre as a diva, Favre as a media darling, Favre as a poison in the locker room, Favre only having 12 games in the tank, Favre's arm not what it used to be, etc. etc. Now look at the season we just had. Nothing those fools said was accurate. I wouldn't put an ounce of faith in anything said on this topic right now.

My guess is the best indication of what is going on will be how Childress handles Rosenfels and Jackson:

If they keep both of them and draft a QB then it is likely that Favre isn't coming back.
If they release one of them and draft a QB then Favre is most likely coming back.
If they keep both of them and don't draft a QB then I think Favre is likely coming back.

Is that 100%? I doubt it, but it seems a heck of a lot more reliable than Ed Werder or Dan Barriero.

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I take this with a huge grain of salt. Favre is probably in a lot of pain, he got beat up bad on Sunday. Once he heals and is feeling OK, has had some time to grief the over loss I think his competitive side isn't gonna let him go out like that. He knows this team is built to win now and if he comes back I think we will be even better next year than we were this year. Everyone on offense having a year with him, we were really clicking. Percy will be better and probably used in a bigger role since he will have a better grasp on the playbook, our Oline should probably be playing better too. Loadholt and Sullivan got a lot of experience this year.

Maybe I'm being too positive but I really do think we will be better next year than we were this year if he returns. If he doesn't, what a huge step back, we will be a wild card team for sure. No way we take our division without him, GB is looking really good.

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Post Re: Favre: Return in 2010 "highly unlikely"
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I take this with a huge grain of salt. Favre is probably in a lot of pain, he got beat up bad on Sunday. Once he heals and is feeling OK, has had some time to grief the over loss I think his competitive side isn't gonna let him go out like that. He knows this team is built to win now and if he comes back I think we will be even better next year than we were this year. Everyone on offense having a year with him, we were really clicking. Percy will be better and probably used in a bigger role since he will have a better grasp on the playbook, our Oline should probably be playing better too. Loadholt and Sullivan got a lot of experience this year.

Maybe I'm being too positive but I really do think we will be better next year than we were this year if he returns. If he doesn't, what a huge step back, we will be a wild card team for sure. No way we take our division without him, GB is looking really good.


I'm no pro-football HOF QB but that's how I would look at it. The Vikings give him the best chance to win this next season. They were 1-2 mistakes away from being in the SB this season...*sigh*

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Post Re: Favre: Return in 2010 "highly unlikely"
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My guess is the best indication of what is going on will be how Childress handles Rosenfels and Jackson:

If they keep both of them and draft a QB then it is likely that Favre isn't coming back.
If they release one of them and draft a QB then Favre is most likely coming back.
If they keep both of them and don't draft a QB then I think Favre is likely coming back.

Is that 100%? I doubt it, but it seems a heck of a lot more reliable than Ed Werder or Dan Barriero.


I wouldn't be surprised to see your first option with the door left wide open for Favre to come back and then one of Tage Jackfels gets release at that point.

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I read that Moving Vans were seen emptying his home in Minne. Does this have any truth, and if so, does that really indicate him leaving. I know he rents from a former teammate in New York who owns a house in Minne. Maybe he just didn't like the house?? :(

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Please link the source of this information because I cant find anything about it.


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Here's a pipe dream ...

Brett just comes out in March and says, "Y'know what? I love playing for the Vikings. I'm coming back."

THAT would shut everybody up.

Cuz if he says he's retiring, nobody will believe it. The hype machine engine will spin up at all-ahead flank (Navy term) come June or July.

But if he says he's coming back, it's almost no news. Everybody would be like, "OK, I guess he's playing." End of story.

Oh sure, guys like Ed Werder would try to trump up "schism" stories because Favre doesn't have to go to camp. But even that would be a non-story, as the Vikings proved in '09.

Won't happen, of course. Like I said ... a pipe dream.

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Post Re: Favre: Return in 2010 "highly unlikely"
J. Kapp 11 wrote:
Here's a pipe dream ...

Brett just comes out in March and says, "Y'know what? I love playing for the Vikings. I'm coming back."

THAT would shut everybody up.

Cuz if he says he's retiring, nobody will believe it. The hype machine engine will spin up at all-ahead flank (Navy term) come June or July.

But if he says he's coming back, it's almost no news. Everybody would be like, "OK, I guess he's playing." End of story.

Oh sure, guys like Ed Werder would try to trump up "schism" stories because Favre doesn't have to go to camp. But even that would be a non-story, as the Vikings proved in '09.

Won't happen, of course. Like I said ... a pipe dream.


It would sure be nice to have it resolved that early in the offseason.

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I think he's finally done. The last two games he looked worn out after the game. Just worn out looking. Physically I think he now beleives he's done. But let's see next July/August.



I agree that Favre took a big thumping during some of the December games and definitely in the Championship game. He's not getting any younger and all the machismo in the world isn't going to get him through another beating like that. Even if Favre comes back, I don't think the Vikings can get another season out of him like the last one. Personally, I'd like to see Favre retire and the Vikings acquire a new QB, preferably one with plenty of mileage left in him. However, as you said, Favre will probably make up his mind late in the summer.


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Post Re: Favre: Return in 2010 "highly unlikely"
I want Farve back, but we are getting a small taste of what GB experienced. The difference is we don't have Aaron Rodgers as insurance.

Realistically the Vikes need to know before free agency/draft starts.

But what if we don't know by then? What should the Vikings do?

Assume he is retiring and trade for a QB?? Keep TJ and Sage??

With this team we can't go with a rookie??

All of the above.


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J. Kapp 11 wrote:
Here's a pipe dream ...

Brett just comes out in March and says, "Y'know what? I love playing for the Vikings. I'm coming back."

THAT would shut everybody up.

Cuz if he says he's retiring, nobody will believe it. The hype machine engine will spin up at all-ahead flank (Navy term) come June or July.

But if he says he's coming back, it's almost no news. Everybody would be like, "OK, I guess he's playing." End of story.

Oh sure, guys like Ed Werder would try to trump up "schism" stories because Favre doesn't have to go to camp. But even that would be a non-story, as the Vikings proved in '09.

Won't happen, of course. Like I said ... a pipe dream.

If he says he is coming back then we'll just have to debate whether he is going to retire last minute instead.

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I want Farve back, but we are getting a small taste of what GB experienced. The difference is we don't have Aaron Rodgers as insurance.


Correct-o-mundo. And that's the rub.


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I agree that Favre took a big thumping during some of the December games and definitely in the Championship game. He's not getting any younger and all the machismo in the world isn't going to get him through another beating like that. Even if Favre comes back, I don't think the Vikings can get another season out of him like the last one. Personally, I'd like to see Favre retire and the Vikings acquire a new QB, preferably one with plenty of mileage left in him. However, as you said, Favre will probably make up his mind late in the summer.


You'd like to see Favre retire? Why? Who could the Vikings reasonably get that could replace him?

From what I can tell the players all want him back to a man. The coaches would have him back. The owners would have him back. I don't get why any fan who got to witness what the guy did for the team this year would not want him back, even if he does throw the occasional untimely pick and is getting up there in years. He's WAY better than anyone else the Vikings have or could get, and that statement would still hold true even if his production was about 70% what it was this year. If the offensive line can get it's act together next year and improve it's blocking as a unit, I think he could be even better next year.


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Arjuna wrote:
J. Kapp 11 wrote:
Here's a pipe dream ...

Brett just comes out in March and says, "Y'know what? I love playing for the Vikings. I'm coming back."

THAT would shut everybody up.

Cuz if he says he's retiring, nobody will believe it. The hype machine engine will spin up at all-ahead flank (Navy term) come June or July.

But if he says he's coming back, it's almost no news. Everybody would be like, "OK, I guess he's playing." End of story.

Oh sure, guys like Ed Werder would try to trump up "schism" stories because Favre doesn't have to go to camp. But even that would be a non-story, as the Vikings proved in '09.

Won't happen, of course. Like I said ... a pipe dream.

If he says he is coming back then we'll just have to debate whether he is going to retire last minute instead.

I'll have to respectfully disagree here, based on his history.

In the past, he's always either waffled about retiring, or he's just retired (only to un-retire later after a media circus).

He's never actually just come out and said, "Y'know what? Screw it. I'm playin'. End of story, media hounds."

C'mon, Brett. Break the mold.

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Favre's inability to make a clear cut decision hurts the Vikings chances of signing or even trading for a quality QB. Welcome to the circus. Even if he were to retire 'again' you can never count him out completely because nobody can take him for his word. If he does say hes not comming back he could very well be trying to get out of training camp again. He and his agent have gotten so good at playing games and telling lies that baby Brett seems to always get whatever he wants reguardless of its effect on the team or others. What a loser.


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I'm pretty sure that no matter what the Vikings will try and get some kind of QB, whether or not Favre retires.


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I read that Moving Vans were seen emptying his home in Minne. Does this have any truth, and if so, does that really indicate him leaving. I know he rents from a former teammate in New York who owns a house in Minne. Maybe he just didn't like the house?? :(


I saw video of that on the FOX9 website last weekend.

I wouldn't read too much into it. Mississippi is his offseason home, so naturally he would move back south when the season ended. It doesn't necessarily mean that retirement is a 100% sure thing. He may even be back renting Tony Richardson's home again if he decides to come back.


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the vikings need to know if they need to resign Jackson. I believe that he'll be a FA in March for anyone to sign? I would also think that the Vikes would want him back if Favre is not returning. So I would think that Chili and company are telling him behind closed doors to think about it for a month, but we can't go into the season with only Sage there.

Unless would the Vikings put second round tender on Jackson? that would probably scare some teams away, but still a huge risk going in with with only sage and the booty on deck...

anyone know the scenerio with Jackson?


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