Discussion of stadium issues can continue in this thread with the following caveat.

Anyone who diverges from the stadium into anything else gets a week off. Second offense, you're gone. Period. There will be no warnings. There is no defense. That is the rules and if you cannot stick to it, you're gone. I don't care if you've been here a week or since the board opened. The no politics rule exists for a reason and it will be followed.

Talk about how it could be funded? Fine. Start contrasting that to anything else? No.

This is not a Minnesota politics board. It's a Vikings board. Stick to football.

i think one would only have to go to one, or two vikings games and try and use one of what seems like only 5 bathrooms, and almost piss themselves while standing in line for a half hour to realize....the vikes need a new stadium!

what, you don't like the county fair style Pxss trough? Sword fighting with complete strangers? It's classy!

maybe that's by design. they know that if you are borderline ready to piss yourself, you could care less what you're pissing in after 30 minutes in line! smart money management.

For all the Domes flaws, I have had many many good times in that complex. Ozzfest, Twins games, Viking Games, Supercross, even Monster Trucks. The bright white ceiling that gives it an outdoor lit effect. The Loudness of the Fans. I love the Dome. I wish it was profitable or even renovationable ( I just made up a new word ) I'm sure I'll love the new stadium even more when and if it is built. But I can honestly say I will miss the hefty bag, a lot. I hope the Vikings can make you a two sport championship complex before you pass. Old girl......

what ??? went from were is stadium funding going to come to were our piss goes????
looks like the vikes dont want the Metropolitan Sports Facilities Commission to be invovled in there plans for a stadium!!
http://wcco.com/vikings/metrodome.remod ... 75382.html
well..whats the problem???looks like some progress....

The recent move by the Met Commission was total bush league, they have every reason to be mad.
Extend or we charge you 4 mil a year, now isnt the time for strong armed tactics, all they needed to do was sit down and say we gonna get this figured out, lets find a way. I hope the Met Commission, dont foul this up, Bill Lester needs to pull his head out and repair the damage if it's possible to, fueds wont help this situation, everyone needs to work together. With that said, I think the vikings are being a bit childish about the latest design.

^Yeah. They basically blackmailed the Vikings into signing an extension to the lease...

Check the links in my signature to see how you can help out with resolving the stadium issue!

Talking about how it could be funded is politics.

There is no way to post any relevant information without a potential policy violation. Therefore, the whole topic is meaningless in its redacted form.

No, I think funding of the 'dome was excluded. As you said, its just about impossible to have a good discussion about the 'Dome without that topic.

I agree, there is no way to engage in this topic without veering into politics. We may as well not have this thread IMO. Its a bit like leaving a 50 on the ground and waiting to see if anyone takes it.

"Hey, this is the thread about electric guitars but you can't talk about mixers, effects pedals or amplifiers! Have at it, folks."

Don't like it, don't participate in this thread.

Honestly, the only reason I haven't already banned anyone is because we're 11-2. I don't want to be kicking people for this in the middle of a great season. But, if you want to keep begging to be kicked, c'est la vie.

If the MSFC was coming to the Vikes asking for them to sign an extension contingent on financing getting through the legislature, then fine. But they didn't, they just asked for a 2 year lease extension. The lease end is the only leverage the Vikings have, so I don't know what the MSFC was thinking.

It sounds like the Vikes are talking directly to the governor, which is smart.

30 minutes to go to the bathroom is too long. perhaps they can be the first stadium to put urinals on the back of each seat so you don't have to get up and miss any of the action. whether it is for the new stadium or as a renovation I think this idea should be considered.

Well, people can sign a multimillion dollar leases on unpopular stadiums but they can't get anywhere really on a new stadium in half a decade? Man, if only the Vikings would have won that Super Bowl 10 odd years ago this wouldn't even be a discussion.

Some posts were removed. Keep the discussion on topic.

If the Vikes are one and done and there are zero prospects for a new stadium, Wilf will certainly move his team after next year and who could blame him.
Seems as if the fan's hatered of Childress and he will be the coach for at least the next 3 years, supersedes any thing he might have built or accomplished. Maybe by that time the State could acquire a new team and start over with a new coach like Shanahan, Tomlin, Gruden or whoever (anyone but Chilly)
New stadium, different fan base, more revenue to 'buy" better players.
Since I no longer live in Mankato I couldn't care less where they move to I will still be a loyal fan.
With the unrelenting negativity across the Viking fan base I say it is definately time for a move.
Do what the Rams did when they moved to Saint Louis be appreciated supported and win a Super Bowl.
I mean really go.

Funny how the "unrelenting negativity" appears after the Vikings seem committed to ruining their season by lackluster play. Who'da predicted that happening?

It does make you wonder if Wilf told Chilly to tank the season so he can move this team easier. I'm sure he's fed up with the resistance for a new stadium.

Who knows maybe they decided "Major League 4" will switch from baseball to football and be a reality show instead of paying actors.

While negativity is surely not appreciated by some...you just need to make sure you get your facts straight. He can't move it next year...or the year after that...

After that though, that's when he's free to do whatever...

I don't live in Minny anymore but I would be heartbroken if they ever left b/c I have so many great memories of going to Vikes games with my family there...

The Vikings belong in Minnesota...it goes beyond football at this point...

I just don't see why hes allowed to make good fan / bad fan posts one after another for the past 4 months.

And yes he's on my foe list but people take the troll bait and quote him so bleh.

^How was that good fan bad fan? He talked about negativity in the fanbase and that's what I was talking about! I just wanted to make sure he had his facts straight.

He wasn't allowed. He got a week off and I think he just got back a few days ago..to immediately begin the same stuff.

A lot of "moderation" is done behind the scenes, via warnings, PM's, etc. Just because something isn't done publicly does not mean it is being ignored.

I'm not talking about this situation in particular but thought I should point that out since its come up a few times.

If anyone feels a post is in violation of the board rules, there's a report button in the lower right corner of every post (red exclamation mark). Use that. It makes it easier for us to find the post and it doesn't derail the thread. That doesn't necessarily mean we'll always do something just because a report was made, but it's a good way to get our attention. (There's a lot of threads to read through )

Anyway, enough of this there's enough Chili talk in other threads, lets get this discussion back to the Stadium issue.

I dont live in minnesota either but one thing puzzles me....

how did the twins manage to pull off a new stadium but the vikings cant?

Deal was made in clearer economic times and when it was the only stadium to be built...then TCF bank got approved...so people are left wondering...when will the stadiums stop?

How the miserable Goofers got a stadium is way beyond me. They never sold out the Dome in all the years they played there. Yet the Vikings are left stranded!!! What a joke. Shame on the $#%%^$# that made that happen.

^While I'm not trying to offend anyone, when I lived in Minny (12 years), I never met anyone who was all in for Gophers football like you the Longhorn and Buckeye fans you see...that was just me, but I never really thought Gopher football attracted that many superfans other than those that were currently attending or had recently attended...just what I saw...

The Twins did a terrible job of promoting their stadium cause in the 1990s with offensive commercials and misleading threats to move to North Carolina. But in the 2000s they finally put a winning plan together. My take is that two things helped them immeasurably. They put a smart, well-respected executive in charge of the effort (Jerry Bell). They found a local partner (Hennepin County).

The Vikings had a viable local partner (Anoka County) at the time the Twins and Gophers stadium bill passed and the state legislature asked them to come back the next year with a firmed up plan and the legislature would consider it. The Vikings at the time chose instead to go back to Minneapolis and hung Anoka County out to dry. Anoka County dropped out shortly thereafter. The Vikings biggest problem is that they don't take two key components of a stadium push seriously. They are as follows. They have not taken seriously the idea of finding a local partner, instead saying it's all up to the state, which is not tenable with current state politics. The second problem is that they have not put smart people in charge of their stadium push, leaving the stadium inexplicably in the hands of Lester Bagley, a holdover from the Red McCombs era and past threats to relocate that the fans do not respect at all. Things might change now that Zygi Wilf is more vocally taking the stadium push to the road.

A disappointing finish to the season on the field will hurt as much as anything. But a trip to the Super Bowl will help out more than anything. Both are still quite possible. Just my take.