losperros wrote:I agree wholeheartedly about having some talent right now on the team, especially at WR.
They certainly have some
talent on offense.
My two cents: Turner ignored what could work for the team and instead focused on a one-way road with his system. It's a Brad Childress kind of mistake and a recipe for disaster. Close-minded thinking isn't vision. Schemes have to be flexible so the vision can be realized. For example, a team doesn't need just one method to run the ball well and utilize a complementary passing game. A coordinator has to consider the talent available and both their strengths and weaknesses, and then adapt a system for it. That's forward thinking and that's having vision.
I think we may be using the word vision a little differently in this case, Craig. What I was trying to say is the offensive version of the "Zimmer defensive approach" Purple Martin mentioned would be to have a vision for the kind of offense the team wants
to run and then build accordingly, finding players that fit the scheme and thus bringing the philosophy and talent in line with one another. I was trying differentiate that approach from adaptation. To me, the choice to hire Turner suggested the Vikings had a specific idea of what type of offense they wanted to run but unlike what they did on defense, they didn't logically assemble personnel on offense that would excel in Turner's system.
I think Turner could have done more to adapt to his circumstances and he definitely could have been less predictable but it seems like the offensive philosophy and personnel were at odds with each other from the start. I think Turner actually did make efforts to adapt to his personnel in each of his 3 seasons in Minnesota but he also remained far too stubborn and predictable for his own good. I'm not here to suggest he did a particularly good job as Vikings offensive coordinator because he didn't but I also think a failure of vision from his head coach and GM made his job much more difficult. It will be interesting to see how Shurmur does and if he does well, if he'll remain the OC beyond this season.
On a slightly related note (because it probably makes as much sense to put this here as it does anywhere else), after 7 games, Mike Wallace already has more yards and TDs for Baltimore than he had in Minnesota in 2015.