Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:45 am
I do follow them all pretty close. I dont get why Philly (either year) is considered an average team. They made the playoffs, they have 90% of their SB roster still. He pis# pounded them on the road and at home. Sure, he lost to Seattle, New England, Chicago, etc. But my point is, give credit to where credit is due. Guys are trying to now say how Philly isnt a good enough team and it basically doesnt count in their eyes.
Like is there a rubric for this that we have to follow. Are we only allowed to count teams that have a specific record? We can count KC, rip him for that and say they are a "good team" with a guy that wasnt in the NFL 2 months ago but try and call Philly average when they 1.) have a winning record and 2.) beat GB on the road and beat a Chicago team we got whooped by. And he didnt just beat Philly, he shredded them. That makes zero sense to me. If you're using NFL.com power rankings, they have us at #10 and Philly at #12.
I'm guessing they were just looking at the record. Last year they were one game away from being 8-8 which seems pretty average. In the end, to me the Eagles count as a "good team" (or at least winning team) last year.
This season I would say the argument is probably that they were missing 6 people (one put on IR, 5 just out for the game) which included their 2 key members of their secondary. That said, if the Eagles have a winning record when the year ends they'd count against that stat that keeps coming up.
I guess they dont "rip him when he beats average to weak teams" but they also give him zero credit. He's beating teams he is suppose to beat but IMO, a win is a win in the NFL.
I don't disagree and give him credit for that. It's not a knock against him that he has played well against "lesser" teams. It's just that it is his reputation already. It's why he's a great fantasy football QB. Of course people aren't singing his praises when he beats down the teams that everyone expects him to.
I can guarantee this week if we beat Dallas, some fans will still look to find ways of saying Dallas is "average" and I'm sure the Jets loss will be in play (maybe they wont if they see I'm already calling them out for it). But if he loses.... he'll be the worst QB in the NFL. Philly was the same exact type of game. Fans found ways to say they are average when we win, but if we lost, Cousins would be again criticized for not being able to beat a "winning team". So like I said, the guy doesnt have a fair shot and didnt get one from the start by many fans.
I can't speak for everyone else but I'll be thrilled if Cousins comes out and does well against Dallas. Dallas, as it stands right now, seems to be a good team. If they drop every game the rest of the season of course that opinion will change.
If he loses to Dallas it's just what I expect. He won't suddenly be the worst QB ever.
Hell, we don't even have to say its Cousins fault at all that is the reason teams that he plays for can't seem to beat "winning" teams. We can start calling it the "Cousins Curse" if you want. I don't even care what people think the reasons are anymore. The stats are what they are.
As for him being the missing piece. Yeah he was crowned the "missing piece" of the team going into 2018. But again, that shouldnt automatically be pointed to winning a SB. This team underwhelmed last year 100%. I think he was better than some credited him for but he was very underwhelming at times. But just because we get the "missing piece" last year, doesnt mean ALL the others pieces are now allowed to fail at their job. Cousins has to do his job just as much as Xavier Rhodes, Mike Zimmer, John DeFillippo, practically any offensive lineman, Everson Griffen (non- football related but still) and so on.
Guys want to say Cousins might have been the "missing piece" but fans ignore the fact that we might have lost the most important piece of all (from an offensive standpoint) and that's Pat Shurmur. I have used the Bengals as an example before. Nobody has had more coaches robbed from them than Cincy has for a stretch. They lose Hue Jackson, Mike Zimmer, Jay Gruden, etc. Did anyone expect that defense to be as good or better after Zimmer left? No matter who they brought in as a coach or players? No. Did anyone expect Cincy's offense to continue getting better after they lost Jay Gruden then Hue Jackson?? No. They were very important pieces to their success and in turn, Cincy never recovered from losing them. Same goes for Pat Shurmur. I think our Stefanski and Kubiak are miles better than Flip was. I dont think they are at Shurmurs level, especially when the pressure is on but Flip was downright horrid. One of the worst I can think of when it comes to Vikings OCs. Just the fact that we had Dalvin Cook and Latavius Murray on this team and he couldnt figure out how to effectively utilize either of them. And guys wanted to blame the OL last year. Nope, 110% the OC. Nobody can tell me we couldnt run the ball last year with Cook and Murray 20+ times a game and not be AT LEAST in the average range of rushing offenses. And that then trickles down to less pressure being on Cousins to do everything, then that trickles down to utilizing Kirk's biggest strength in play action which then trickles down to keeping defenses on their toes and being an unpredictable play caller and that probably leads to more wins. AT LEAST enough to get us into the playoffs last year. THAT's how poor Flip was. And that's how much worse he was than Shurmur. We gained a key piece in Cousins but lost arguably the biggest piece in Shurmur. But nobody talks about that. They talk about Cousins and how HE has failed.
People talk about losing Shurmur constantly. Cousins has had the problems that I complain about his entire starting career (collapsing in important moments and/or against good teams).
Kirk Cousins choked away the playoffs, but the Redskins should still give him $100 million
Philadelphia Eagles: Choke Artist Kirk Cousins lands Philly a playoff berth
When it meant the most, when the team he’d led all season, setting records along the way, played the only game that mattered, Kirk Cousins looked nothing like a franchise quarterback who should be commanding a nine-figure contract two months from now. But despite Cousins having his worst performance of the season in the Washington Redskins’ do-or-die, 19-10 death to the New York Giants — and despite what you’ll hear from the knee-jerk armchair general managing this week and beyond — his market value is unchanged.
All the Minnesota Vikings had to do to keep the Philadelphia Eagles out of the playoffs was beat the Bears. Fortunately, their quarterback is Kirk Cousins.
Even though he’s no longer in the NFC East, Kirk Cousins is the gift that keeps on giving.
While Philadelphia Eagles fans certainly have fond memories of the former Washington Redskins quarterback dropping the ball over and over again in clutch situations, in Week 17, he may have pulled off the biggest blunder of his career.
Google Kirk Cousins choking. It goes on and on. Of course he had the excuse that the Redskins weren't very good. Then he comes to a mostly unchanged Vikings team coming off the NFCC game. The excuse now is that the Vikings lost coaches?
Call it what you want. Kirk Chokes, Kirk is unlucky, Kirk is cursed. Whatever ... the results are the same.