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Just to get a good laugh, Matt Kalil is currently ranked 61st out of 72 qualifiers according to PFF. Riley Reiff is ranked 18th and Mike Remmers is ranked 19th. :shock:

So maybe finally, the "Spielman doesnt know what he's doing" stuff could actually stop for once.

Reiff got a 5 year $58.5 mill deal
Remmers got a 5 year $30 mill deal

Matt Kalil got a 5 year 55 mill deal [emoji38] [emoji38]
Let's let it play out for a season first. Spiel an did draft Kalil, remember...

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Pondering Her Percy wrote:
Just to get a good laugh, Matt Kalil is currently ranked 61st out of 72 qualifiers according to PFF. Riley Reiff is ranked 18th and Mike Remmers is ranked 19th. :shock:

So maybe finally, the "Spielman doesnt know what he's doing" stuff could actually stop for once.

Reiff got a 5 year $58.5 mill deal
Remmers got a 5 year $30 mill deal

Matt Kalil got a 5 year 55 mill deal [emoji38] [emoji38]
Let's let it play out for a season first. Spiel an did draft Kalil, remember...

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I think people will believe in Spielman once he builds a team. He's been with the Vikings forever, as VP of PP or GM. I want to be dominant like GB, Pats, Pit, etc. Im sick of being average to below. I dont care if other teams are, I want the Vikes to be feared. I want titles, and eventually a SB win. Ricky doesnt have what it takes to do that IMHO. I know your opinion is different. Being in the middle doesnt make me happy. I like the years we were on top, and even then, we didnt get to the SB (while I watched the Vikes). And before you ask the tiresome question of what I would have done, I'm not a GM.


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Pondering Her Percy wrote:
Just to get a good laugh, Matt Kalil is currently ranked 61st out of 72 qualifiers according to PFF. Riley Reiff is ranked 18th and Mike Remmers is ranked 19th. :shock:

So maybe finally, the "Spielman doesnt know what he's doing" stuff could actually stop for once.

Reiff got a 5 year $58.5 mill deal
Remmers got a 5 year $30 mill deal

Matt Kalil got a 5 year 55 mill deal :lol: :lol:


And isnt PFF almost completely unreliable? Like saying Rhodes is a bad CB, when in fact hes one of the best in the entire NFC? Or do you just pick and chose?


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Pondering Her Percy wrote:
Just to get a good laugh, Matt Kalil is currently ranked 61st out of 72 qualifiers according to PFF. Riley Reiff is ranked 18th and Mike Remmers is ranked 19th. :shock:

So maybe finally, the "Spielman doesnt know what he's doing" stuff could actually stop for once.

Reiff got a 5 year $58.5 mill deal
Remmers got a 5 year $30 mill deal

Matt Kalil got a 5 year 55 mill deal [emoji38] [emoji38]
Let's let it play out for a season first. Spiel an did draft Kalil, remember...

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And over and over again when people bring this up I ask, the big 3 outside of Luck and RGIII that year were Kalil, Blackmon and Claiborne. We had nothing at either of those positions. Who do you draft as a GM??? Either way, you picked a bust. So you can't fault Spielman there. And don't say you would've traded down because we all know those 3 were the cream of the crop that year going up to the draft. No less as sad as it sounds, Kalil was probably the best of the 3 and looked like Joe Thomas his rookie year. Matt Kalil made Matt Kalil bad. That wasn't on Rick Spielman

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PurpleMustReign wrote:
Pondering Her Percy wrote:
Just to get a good laugh, Matt Kalil is currently ranked 61st out of 72 qualifiers according to PFF. Riley Reiff is ranked 18th and Mike Remmers is ranked 19th. :shock:

So maybe finally, the "Spielman doesnt know what he's doing" stuff could actually stop for once.

Reiff got a 5 year $58.5 mill deal
Remmers got a 5 year $30 mill deal

Matt Kalil got a 5 year 55 mill deal [emoji38] [emoji38]
Let's let it play out for a season first. Spiel an did draft Kalil, remember...

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I think people will believe in Spielman once he builds a team. He's been with the Vikings forever, as VP of PP or GM. I want to be dominant like GB, Pats, Pit, etc. Im sick of being average to below. I dont care if other teams are, I want the Vikes to be feared. I want titles, and eventually a SB win. Ricky doesnt have what it takes to do that IMHO. I know your opinion is different. Being in the middle doesnt make me happy. I like the years we were on top, and even then, we didnt get to the SB (while I watched the Vikes). And before you ask the tiresome question of what I would have done, I'm not a GM.


Hey I respect that though. It's your opinion. I've always been a Rick fan as you obviously know. I think he has this team pointing in the right direction either way. It's hard to sit there and say he doesn't to be honest. Out of any spot on this team the weakest link is probably the OL and they've been playing great so I'm just saying I think he deserves some credit here. After last season collapse, many wrote this team off especially with no first. For having no first, Rick did an EXCELLENT job this offseason IMO

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Pondering Her Percy wrote:
Just to get a good laugh, Matt Kalil is currently ranked 61st out of 72 qualifiers according to PFF. Riley Reiff is ranked 18th and Mike Remmers is ranked 19th. :shock:

So maybe finally, the "Spielman doesnt know what he's doing" stuff could actually stop for once.

Reiff got a 5 year $58.5 mill deal
Remmers got a 5 year $30 mill deal

Matt Kalil got a 5 year 55 mill deal :lol: :lol:


And isnt PFF almost completely unreliable? Like saying Rhodes is a bad CB, when in fact hes one of the best in the entire NFC? Or do you just pick and chose?


I mean it's not THAT reliable but Kalil has been awful in Carolina and Rieff has been awesome. Remmers is a middle man but either way they aren't far off

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I am asking this seriously, but why does Spielman get so much credit for signing a few players who have had three good gammes, but no blame for drafting a player who had three bad seasons? You lister tons of excuses for why he doesn't grt blame for drafting Kalil (and to be clear, Kalil is who I wanted and he looked like a steal even as a #3 pick), but in the end, Kalil sucked. We are three games into the season. Kalil played three seasons for us after his good rookie year. And, just with the WRs that you mentioned earlier, Spielman has been the GM for how many years, and has now finally, at least for three games, put some real talent on the OL. Remember, he extended Fusco, who never really was very good at anything.

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I am asking this seriously, but why does Spielman get so much credit for signing a few players who have had three good gammes, but no blame for drafting a player who had three bad seasons? You lister tons of excuses for why he doesn't grt blame for drafting Kalil (and to be clear, Kalil is who I wanted and he looked like a steal even as a #3 pick), but in the end, Kalil sucked. We are three games into the season. Kalil played three seasons for us after his good rookie year. And, just with the WRs that you mentioned earlier, Spielman has been the GM for how many years, and has now finally, at least for three games, put some real talent on the OL. Remember, he extended Fusco, who never really was very good at anything.

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Fusco was a top guard according to PFF when he was resigned. He took a step back when he had the pec injury.

Again like I said, they aren't excuses. All 3 players that year were busts. Kalil, Claiborne and Blackmon. Matt Kalil was Matt Kalil's downfall. He was so good in college they moved Tryon Smith to the right side and had Kalil take left. He was a pro bowler his rookie year. Then injuries came into play and he turned into a head case. How is that on Rick Spielman?? Did Spielman have any control over his knee injuries?? Or had any idea those were going to happen?? He drafted a pro bowl LT. Kalil was his own downfall. It's not like he was always bad. He was very good and then turned bad because of injuries. No GM can avoid that. Kalil proved he was good in the beginning of his career. What Spielman did wasnt avoidable is what I'm saying. Claiborne was a bum and Blackmon was a head case. Kalil was easily the best most safe choice. Rick Spielman can't predict the future and know when a guy is going to get hurt and his career spiral downward.

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Well someone on here called it. Trubisky is starting Monday night. Everyone knows I'm Mr. Positive but I dont see us winning this game. The wind got sucked right out of us with Cook going down and Bradford still being out. They have the #2 overall pick making his opening start. Going to be an ugly one unfortunately. No less it seems like we always play terrible at Soldier field. I sure hope I am wrong

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Damn, they got to you PHP? smh...snap out of it.

Vikings won't let this rookie beat them. Defense with a poor showing, in my opinion with tackling issues, but that's something Zim will make sure is corrected ASAP.

Vikings will roll again. Ebb and flow season, but they'll get the Bears and be ready for GB.


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Damn, they got to you PHP? smh...snap out of it.

Vikings won't let this rookie beat them. Defense with a poor showing, in my opinion with tackling issues, but that's something Zim will make sure is corrected ASAP.

Vikings will roll again. Ebb and flow season, but they'll get the Bears and be ready for GB.


:lol: :lol: Nah what am I thinking??!! Vikings win 27-10 :rock:

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Me in a nutshell

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Just to throw this out there, the Vikings offensive line is ranked 11th in the NFL right now in pass block efficiency according to PFF.

And thats with having a QB that doesnt get the ball out nearly as quick as Bradford the last 3 weeks. Props to Spielman and Zim with reconstructing this OL.

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video tweet (whatever it's called) of Bradford at practice


I know it's just one throw but it's not very encouraging.

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I know I'm jinxing but

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The #Vikings have allowed -1 yards on punt returns so far this year.

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The #Vikings have allowed -1 yards on punt returns so far this year.
Quigley has been very good. He has outperformed Locke in every aspect, IMO.

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I know I'm jinxing but

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The #Vikings have allowed -1 yards on punt returns so far this year.
Quigley has been very good. He has outperformed Locke in every aspect, IMO.

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I disagree. Quigley has a weak leg, and the short punts allow the coverage to be able to stop any return. The ST part og the Vikings is not good, at all. Locke killed us last Sunday.


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I disagree. Quigley has a weak leg, and the short punts allow the coverage to be able to stop any return. The ST part og the Vikings is not good, at all. Locke killed us last Sunday.

i thought so too (poor ST overall) because of poor KRs, missed FGs, penalties on FGs, and the failed fake punt but PFF disagrees. They have the Vikings with the 2nd best ST so far.



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After years of watching former fifth-round pick Jeff Locke struggle as their punter, veteran Ryan Quigley has quietly graded out as the league’s fifth-best player at the position through four games. Only 18.8 percent of Quigley’s punts have been returned (second-fewest in the league), and those that have been returned have gained a total of -1 yards. Fullback C.J. Ham (three tackles), safety Jayron Kearse (two tackles) and undrafted rookie linebackers Eric Wilson (three tackles) have been standouts among coverage units that have missed only one tackle through four games.



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A very good sign

If he were limited, I doubt he'd be under center in 11 on 11 practice

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Several teams are hurting at WR. (Giants, Bears...) I wonder if we should be shopping Treadwell, Wright, Adams.... (not Coley, I like him).

In a couple weeks we are going to have 3 starting QBs, i cant recall the vikings ever having that problem. (in the past 25 years at least)

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It would not surprise me to see Treadwell moved in the next few weeks.

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It would not surprise me to see Treadwell moved in the next few weeks.

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For what? A 6th or 7th round pick? I can't imagine Spielman setting aside his ego enough to pull that move. It would be an admission that he swung and missed on a high draft pick.

Also, @ Grasshoppa: I think it's highly unlikely that we will have our top 3 QBs ready to play in a few weeks. Teddy is unlikely to actually play this year, IMO, and Bradford looked like he needs another month off at the very least. Maybe I'm overreacting because I'm currently recovering from ACL replacement and menisci repair surgery myself, so I'm hyper aware of the severity, but these are not minor issues for these players to overcome. AD is an exception, not the norm. I'd honestly put the odds at 50-50 on both Bradford and Teddy on EVER making a significant return to the NFL, much less this season (much less in 3 weeks). Hopefully I'm wrong!


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Also, @ Grasshoppa: I think it's highly unlikely that we will have our top 3 QBs ready to play in a few weeks.


I was more looking forward to 2018. (couple weeks jsut being when Teddy was available again)

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Hopefully Cook is another exception.

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Again I will say time and time again regarding Treadwell, he has Stefon Diggs and Adam Thielen in front of him. A #3 WR isnt involved in an offense enough to just explode onto the scene. It would need a long term injury for Treadwell to legitimately prove himself right now. You arent surpassing two of the best WRs in football right now no matter what you do.

IMO, Treadwell was put in a tough spot. When we drafted him, Diggs was emerging but wasnt trusted as a #1 yet. Thielen was a no-name at the time. And Patterson couldnt run routes or figure out an offense to save his life. So it made perfect sense to take Treadwell where we did. Our WR corps was a mystery at the time. Then the 2016 season hits, Diggs explodes, Thielen explodes and Patterson finally figured out how to make an impact as a WR. Add in that Treadwell also struggled with the offense as 90% of rookie WRs do, he didnt get much of an opportunity.

Going into this season, the #1 and #2 jobs were sewn up no matter what. Diggs and Thielen werent moving from those spots. Granted he won the #3 job. However, Qbs just dont seem to be targeting him and I dont know why. He has ran some good routes and has been open on his fair share of plays. I also feel that Shurmur is primarily focused on Diggs and Thielen and much less on Treadwell from what I have seen. And it's so obvious when we are going to run because they sub him in. He currently has 5 catches for 42 yards on 10 targets. 2-3 of those targets came vs Detroit and were awful throws by Keenum.

Idk but honestly, I feel bad for the kid. He has stayed after just about every practice on the jugs machine since his rookie year. He had the chips fall the wrong way for him. Had the injury last year. This kid is a talented WR. I'm not going to sit here and say he is a bust and honestly if you do, given what I just explained above, then thats pretty ignorant.

I have said it before and I will say it again.... a BUST is a guy like Ponder, Jamarcus Russell and Troy Williamson. They were given PLENTY of opportunities to start and perform and failed at it. What opportunities has Treadwell been given since he's gotten here?? Think about it. Very, very little. Almost next to none. That my friends, isn't classified as a "bust" IMO. Until he is given a legitimate opportunity, then we can judge. I'll be the first to eat crow and say he is a bust if he cant capitalize on big opportunities but until then, he's a mystery IMO.

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Dalvin's surgery went well. Expected back by training camp.

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Good news DP thanks for update!


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Teddy going to get evaluated Monday. If all good as expected, cleared for practice.

Zimmer said he still expects Teddy to play this season.

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Teddy going to get evaluated Monday. If all good as expected, cleared for practice.

Zimmer said he still expects Teddy to play this season.



That'd be an amazing feat if he plays this year.

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