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80 PurplePride 84
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 Re: **Official '12 Vikings Training Camp Thread
Cadillac Williams came back from a torn patella (albeit not both) he wasn't the same player but he played again. Maybe Kerry Taylor or someone can become the next Victor Cruz. 
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HornedMessiah
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damn that sucks for Childs. His career might be over before it even began.
So basically he jumped and had full body extension on a deep pass, and landed hard on both his knees? And tore ligaments in BOTH?! That's messed up.
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smoothoperator
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get plaxico. hed be cheap and a good red zone threat
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yezzir
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I'd support them getting Plax. He doesn't seem like a repeat knucklehead.
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The Breeze
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Holy crap...what an awful injury. Never even heard of someone having that happen.
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Eli
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Mothman wrote: Not to be insensitive or dismissive of Childs' misfortune but has anybody heard anything about how the Vikings other 4th round draft pick at WR, Jarius Wright, has looked in camp? I was thinking about that yesterday, before Childs was injured. We haven't heard much aboutl Jarius Wright.
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Demi
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smoothoperator wrote: get plaxico. hed be cheap and a good red zone threat No thanks. Maybe if we had Favre and were making a push. We're rebuilding, there's no reason to bring in a mid-30s never was for a year or two. Just give Wright a chance or find someone else that might have a future in the league. Second big long receiver we took a chance on with injury concerns. Maybe third time will be a charm? 
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Eli
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I hate to be morbid, but I really want to see video of what happened to Childs. He wasn't touched, came down after going for a high pass in the end zone, and managed to tear the patellar tendons in both knees. How do you do that?
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yezzir
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Eli wrote: I hate to be morbid, but I really want to see video of what happened to Childs. He wasn't touched, came down after going for a high pass in the end zone, and managed to tear the patellar tendons in both knees. How do you do that? My guess is that he tried to a tuck-and-roll type thingy but was in a difficult position and took all the weight on his knees.
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The Breeze
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Eli wrote: I hate to be morbid, but I really want to see video of what happened to Childs. He wasn't touched, came down after going for a high pass in the end zone, and managed to tear the patellar tendons in both knees. How do you do that? I don't have the stomach to watch...but I too am confounded as to how a guy can blow both of those tendons without being hit. Like Jim said, maybe there is some genetic predisposition there. Really unfortunate. I was really looking forward to seeing this kid play.
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PurpleMustReign
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HornedMessiah wrote: damn that sucks for Childs. His career might be over before it even began.
So basically he jumped and had full body extension on a deep pass, and landed hard on both his knees? And tore ligaments in BOTH?! That's messed up. and I would guess incredibly painful...
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thor
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Demi wrote: smoothoperator wrote: get plaxico. hed be cheap and a good red zone threat No thanks. Maybe if we had Favre and were making a push. We're rebuilding, there's no reason to bring in a mid-30s never was for a year or two. Just give Wright a chance or find someone else that might have a future in the league. Second big long receiver we took a chance on with injury concerns. Maybe third time will be a charm?  Leave Plaxiglass alone. Has had some nice plays in his career, but I'm tired of seeing Viking WR's dropping balls.
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HardcoreVikesFan
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So unfortunate for Greg Childs. I was really looking forward to see what he could be. Hopefully Jarius Wright steps up for us.
Maybe we could try to trade for Mike Wallace or Dwayne Bowe... Or then again, maybe not.
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king72404
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Being a huge Vikings fan, and also being from Arkansas, and a Greg Childs fan since his sophomore year, this is tough...tPre college injury I thought he'd be a great NFL receiver, and then after hearing all the great things about him in practice I thought he'd be a sure fire game changer. Hopefully he recovers, and still has a very productive career.
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losperros
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Demi wrote: smoothoperator wrote: get plaxico. hed be cheap and a good red zone threat No thanks. Maybe if we had Favre and were making a push. We're rebuilding, there's no reason to bring in a mid-30s never was for a year or two. Just give Wright a chance or find someone else that might have a future in the league. I agree. Plexiglass isn't what this current rebuilding Vikings team needs. In fact, I thought Childs very much fit the mold. Maybe Jenkins can stay healthy and be the big WR who fights for the ball. I'm still not certain how good or bad Jenkins will be. king72404 wrote: Being a huge Vikings fan, and also being from Arkansas, and a Greg Childs fan since his sophomore year, this is tough...tPre college injury I thought he'd be a great NFL receiver, and then after hearing all the great things about him in practice I thought he'd be a sure fire game changer. Hopefully he recovers, and still has a very productive career. I know what you mean. I was excited when the Vikings drafted Childs. Hopefully, he'll fully recover. How many more big injuries can his body handle?
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Juice
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Quote: No player has returned from a bilateral patella tendon tear -- an injury so rare a 2009 study in the Iowa Orthopaedic Journal found only about 50 reported cases in the general population from English and German medical literature.
But what one NFL source called a "once in a lifetime" injury shouldn't be considered a death sentence for Childs' young career, nor a referendum on Vikings general manager Rick Spielman's decision to take a chance with the 134th overall pick in April's draft. More at the link: http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Peli ... ilds080512
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hibbingviking
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I would take t.o. before plexiglass burress. I thought an acl, and mcl was a worse injury over the pcl patella . 
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Eli
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This just increased Jerome Simpson's value to the Vikings by a couple million per year. If the Vikings don't sign him to an extension before the end of the season, they're going to have a sorry looking group of wide receivers going into the offseason. Without Simpson it could be Percy Harvin and nobody.
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Juice
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Just watched the play on Kare 11 news. It really didn't look too bad. I couldn't find the video but here are some pictures.  
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80 PurplePride 84
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Eli wrote: Without Simpson it could be Percy Harvin and nobody. You mean like last year? 
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mansquatch
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Mothman wrote: S197 wrote: Yeah 7 of 10 for 25 yards is a LOT of checking down. I don't know about on this particular day but it was mentioned that the Vikings were working on blitzes a lot so that may have something to do with it. It could easily have something to do with it. Camp reps aren't game reps and camp stats are even less meaningful than preseason stats, especially without any real context. The quote from Craig Johnson is amusing but I wouldn't worry about it at all. It just sounds like a coach pushing a player. I had a different take on this, I viewed it as a strong positive. Last year Ponder would force the ball, often to Harvin, and not take his check downs which resulted in several of his picks. The fact that he is making his reads and making the safest throw is IMO a strong positive. Fewer picks from our young QB will add wins to our record.
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dead_poet
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Greg Childs - WR - Vikings
Vikings waived/injured WR Greg Childs. They re-signed undrafted WR A.J. Love in a corresponding move. Childs, the 134th overall pick in April's draft, will miss his entire rookie season with double patellar tendon tears after rupturing his right patellar tendon as a junior at Arkansas. We wouldn't rule him out after he came back from the first one, but the odds are heavily against Childs having an NFL career. Related: A.J. Love
Quote: Frazier says Childs had no ligament damage on top of the patellar tendons. Childs told Frazier "I'll be back."
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dead_poet
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The Blair Walsh ProjectThis was from 50 yards. Looks like it could've gone about 60: http://www.1500espn.com/videos/vikings_ ... al_into_cr
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dead_poet
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Quote: Chris DeGeare and Joe Berger will get reps at right guard. Not ready to name Fusco the starter. Schwartz surgery is tomorrow.
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losperros
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Eli wrote: This just increased Jerome Simpson's value to the Vikings by a couple million per year. If the Vikings don't sign him to an extension before the end of the season, they're going to have a sorry looking group of wide receivers going into the offseason. Without Simpson it could be Percy Harvin and nobody. Agreed. As I said in another thread, I don't mind the one year "prove it" deal for a guy like Simpson. But if he does prove that he's the real deal, the Vikings need to sign him to a bigger and better contract asap. If they don't, some other team will at the end of the season.
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dead_poet
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Quote: Frazier said the #Vikings still need to see Michael Jenkins "come along physically" through the preseason. Not exactly a vote of conifdence. Quote: Frazier said Everson Griffen has been "kind of sporadic" at linebacker. Will play there on Friday at SF, then coaches will re-evaluate. Quote: Toby Gerhart will have "limited reps" on Friday. Todman (ankle) could be back, Frazier said. Else it's Hilliard, Coleman, Asiata, D'Imperio.
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S197
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Mothman wrote: CalVike wrote: http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_21241190/vikings-wr-greg-childs-tears-tendons-both-legs
Torn patella tendons both knees. Childs out for season. Ouch. That sucks and what's most unsettling about it is that he's torn a patellar tendon before. Now that it's happened to both knees (and twice to one knee) you have to wonder if this is just something he's genetically predisposed to, something that will recur if he keeps playing. With how rare this type of injury is, it would seem that may be the case. Very unfortunate.
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dead_poet
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Quote: Leslie Frazier also spoke this morning about Greg Childs' positive attitude w his LOOOOONG recovery ahead. It's something, but with no good leg to stand on, it's hard to imagine just how physically and emotionally taxing Childs' rehab will be. Quote: Reading between the lines at this point, Devin Aromashodu might have the biggest chance to capitalize on Childs' injury.
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Juice
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_________________ "They say no matter how hard you work, there's always someone, somewhere working harder than you. Guess what? I'm that someone." -Kevin Garnett
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S197
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Thanks. For the squeamish it looked like a very routine fall, nothing nasty about it at all. Shocking he tore both knees on a fall like that...
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