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dead_poet
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Michael Jenkins - WR - Vikings
Michael Jenkins (torn meniscus) was having trouble planting on his knee and didn't look comfortable running during minicamp, according to Christian Ponder.
Back in May, Jenkins insisted that the knee was at 100 percent. Ponder's comments suggest otherwise. Already lacking separation ability, Jenkins can't afford to have a hitch in his giddyup. Due $2.5 million at age 30, he's no lock to stick on the Vikings' final roster. Source: St. Paul Pioneer Press Jul 21 - 4:56 PM --- He has good hands and is reliable on third downs but he's not the speediest guy even before the injury. If Childs can stay on the field and show promise, I can see Jenkins being cut loose. I wouldn't miss him much. He has no business as an outside starter anymore.
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| Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:43 pm |
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jackal
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 Re: Jenkins
I liked Jenkins before he was even on the Vikings. This might eliminate him from the roster though. Especially with young pick up having good mini camps.
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| Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:04 pm |
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Demi
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 Re: Jenkins
Cut him. Stupid signing at the time. Same type of signing Childress loved. Bring in players who've played in the system even if they weren't any good at it. Give the young guys some time.
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| Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:21 pm |
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Eli
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 Re: Jenkins
Demi wrote: Cut him. Stupid signing at the time. What signing?
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| Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:14 am |
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Demi
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 Re: Jenkins
Eli wrote: Demi wrote: Cut him. Stupid signing at the time. What signing? Signing Jenkins in the first place.
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| Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:23 am |
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VikingLord
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Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 3:12 pm Posts: 4447 Location: The Great White North
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 Re: Jenkins
Demi wrote: Cut him. Stupid signing at the time. Same type of signing Childress loved. Bring in players who've played in the system even if they weren't any good at it. Give the young guys some time. Along those lines, how does a guy with Jenkins' track record sign a contract that pays him 2.5 million a year? Even if Childress loved system guys, that's a lot of change for a guy who has shown very little over his career. I don't think Childress can take all of the blame for the signing - someone else must have agreed to pay him that. From what I've seen and know of Jenkins, he's a vet-minimum kind of guy and should be pretty easy to replace, injured or not.
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| Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:20 pm |
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jackal
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 Re: Jenkins
Jenkins can't take all the blame .. no training camp, mcflabb, terrible O line last year
these all account for the production of the offense last year.
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| Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:02 pm |
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80 PurplePride 84
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Jenkins signed last year he had nothing to do with Childress.
After the lockout FA started like a week before camp. They lost Rice and missed out on guys like Floyd and James Jones, so they signed Jenkins because he was familiar with Musgrave from their Atlanta days. Why they gave him that much money, I don't know. I doubt he had teams lined up for his services.
I'd say he's 50/50 to make the roster at this point. And I'd say DA's chances are slimmer. They'll probably elect to go young with guys like Burton and Arceneaux/Walters filling out the bottom of the depth chart. With Percy and Simpson being the elder statesmen of the WR corps.
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| Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:04 pm |
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9man
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I'm a little surprised to hear this from Ponder. This usually comes from a different source.
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| Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:12 pm |
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jackal
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I didn't notice it came from Ponder .. that could have some effects down the road with teammates
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| Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:09 am |
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80 PurplePride 84
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Why's it a big deal it came from Ponder? All he saying is it looks like the injury is still hampering Jenkins.
It's not like he said he blows or anything.
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| Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:49 am |
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mansquatch
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Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:44 pm Posts: 1602 Location: Coon Rapids, MN
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Sounds like he thought he could push the injury and now it is biting him. Hard to say if this is a big deal or not. Do we have another legit possession player to put on the field right now? Not to say that Jenkins is great, but the guys behind him are either unproven or even less productive. (or both)
In the long run this probably just speeds up the inevitable. At $2.5MM with his production he was likely to be a salary cap casualty sooner rather than later.
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| Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:17 am |
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Eli
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Jenkins' year last year was no worse than his previous four. He's certainly been consistent. Code: Year Rec G Rec/G 2007 53 15 3.53 2008 50 16 3.13 2009 50 15 3.33 2010 41 11 3.73 2011 38 11 3.45
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VikingLord
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Eli wrote: Jenkins' year last year was no worse than his previous four. He's certainly been consistent. Code: Year Rec G Rec/G 2007 53 15 3.53 2008 50 16 3.13 2009 50 15 3.33 2010 41 11 3.73 2011 38 11 3.45
So if he reaches his 50 reception/year watermark, at $2.5 million that's $50,000 per catch. Could be worse I guess. The Vikings could be on the hook for $10.5 million like the Seahawks are for Sidney Rice this upcoming season. Even if Sidney were to match his career-best performance of 83 catches, a feat which seems more and more unlikely as Rice's injury-riddled career progresses, that's a whopping $126,000 per catch.
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| Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:45 pm |
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Demi
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 Re: Jenkins
Quote: Could be worse I guess. The Vikings could be on the hook for $10.5 million like the Seahawks are for Sidney Rice this upcoming season. At least they have the hope that if he's healthy he's a talented player. Unlike Jenkins. Also four years younger. Why we're wasting snaps on this guy at this point. 
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| Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:36 pm |
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HardcoreVikesFan
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Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:28 pm Posts: 4531 Location: University of Iowa
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Jenkins is someone I would actually enjoy having back this season. He may not be the flashiest, but he is consistent.
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Eli
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HardcoreVikesFan wrote: Jenkins is someone I would actually enjoy having back this season. He may not be the flashiest, but he is consistent. If he's healthy. He looked liked a pretty good possession receiver last year. Of course, the Vikings didn't possess the ball much last year, so nobody had a great season.
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Eli
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VikingLord wrote: So if he reaches his 50 reception/year watermark, at $2.5 million that's $50,000 per catch.
Could be worse I guess. It's not like the Vikings didn't know they were signing a 50 reception/year receiver. Remember what the WR corps looked like going into last season? It was ugly. They were desperate, and desperate teams looking for half decent players have a tendency to overpay them.
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dead_poet
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Michael Jenkins - WR - Vikings ESPN 1500 Twin Cities reports Michael Jenkins recently agreed to slash his $2.5 million salary to $1 million.
"Molasses Mike" saw the writing on the wall. Per beat writer Tom Pelissero, Jenkins also agreed to cut his $2.5 million 2013 salary to $825,000. The 60 percent pay-cut coupled with rookie Greg Childs' season-ending injury could be enough to secure Jenkins' 2012 roster spot, but it's doubtful he'll be back in 2013. Source: ESPN 1500 Twin Cities Aug 14 - 9:36 PM
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Demi
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That's how you rebuild a team, give snaps to washed up bums with no chance of coming back the following year.
Let your coaches coach, players play, and washed up never beens walk.
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| Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:59 pm |
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Eli
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So I guess now the Vikings are looking for player bargains?
Get peg-leg Peterson to take a ****ing pay cut. Jenkins is the least of their worries.
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Demi
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Quote: So I guess now the Vikings are looking for bargains? Hopefully Zygi won't be like the Pohlads and worry about spending less now that the stadium deal is done...
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losperros
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Eli wrote: It's not like the Vikings didn't know they were signing a 50 reception/year receiver. Remember what the WR corps looked like going into last season? It was ugly. They were desperate, and desperate teams looking for half decent players have a tendency to overpay them. And the Vikings needed a big, physical guy in their WR corps. Jenkins fits that mold, but he has to stay healthy. It's not like he's expected to be a #1 guy. I thought Jenkins seemed awkward in the first preseason game and maybe that was because he wasn't feeling up to par. Anyway, sounds as if Jenkins took a pay cut.
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| Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:50 pm |
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80 PurplePride 84
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I don't see the big deal with making Jenkins take a pay cut to stay around. It's different if we still had Childs, which crowds the depth chart more, but you need some reliable vet presence there other than Percy. Before the Childs injury I wasn't convinced Jenkins would make the team at all. Now though he's probably needed, unfortunately. Next year you cut him and have FA and the draft to replace him. If you cut him now what do they do sign scrub a team just waived of another aging vet like Chad Johnson? I do however think it stupid to keep both him and DA. Its kinda redundant. What I mean by that is not that they're similar players but that you know what you have with them and neither are a long term solution at the position. One of the two should go. I'd go: Percy Simpson* Wright Jenkins/DA 2 of Burton/Arceneaux/Walters/Taylor/Love/Jorden
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mefford76
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What WR are we supposed to keep over Jenkins? They aren't even PS worthy guys at that point. Jenkins is consistent and that's a good thing for Ponder. He's not holding any young talent back. I usually agree with that theory, but we don't have anyone that's close to pushing him do we?
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| Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:58 pm |
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PurpleMustReign
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mefford76 wrote: What WR are we supposed to keep over Jenkins? They aren't even PS worthy guys at that point. Jenkins is consistent and that's a good thing for Ponder. He's not holding any young talent back. I usually agree with that theory, but we don't have anyone that's close to pushing him do we? I agree. Especially since he was willing to take a pay cut. I can't believe someone referred to AD as "Peg Leg". That has to be one of the dumber things I have ever heard.
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Mothman
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mefford76 wrote: What WR are we supposed to keep over Jenkins? They aren't even PS worthy guys at that point. Jenkins is consistent and that's a good thing for Ponder. He's not holding any young talent back. I usually agree with that theory, but we don't have anyone that's close to pushing him do we? I don't know if this is completely current but here's a list of WRs Vikings.com says are on the roster: 16 Arceneaux, Emmanuel 19 Aromashodu, Devin 11 Burton, Stephen 12 Harvin, Percy 84 Jenkins, Michael 2 Jorden, Kamar 87 Love, A.J. WR 81 Simpson, Jerome 15 Taylor, Kerry 13 Walters, Bryan 17 Wright, Jarius Harvin and Simpson are locks to make the roster. Burton and Aromashodu could conceivably push Jenkins for a roster spot. Beyond those two, I doubt there's any serious competition for him (assuming he can return to pre-injury form). PurpleMustReign wrote: I can't believe someone referred to AD as "Peg Leg". That has to be one of the dumber things I have ever heard. Agreed. How dare he suffer an injury!
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PurpleMustReign
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Mothman wrote: mefford76 wrote: What WR are we supposed to keep over Jenkins? They aren't even PS worthy guys at that point. Jenkins is consistent and that's a good thing for Ponder. He's not holding any young talent back. I usually agree with that theory, but we don't have anyone that's close to pushing him do we? I don't know if this is completely current but here's a list of WRs Vikings.com says are on the roster: 16 Arceneaux, Emmanuel 19 Aromashodu, Devin 11 Burton, Stephen 12 Harvin, Percy 84 Jenkins, Michael 2 Jorden, Kamar 87 Love, A.J. WR 81 Simpson, Jerome 15 Taylor, Kerry 13 Walters, Bryan 17 Wright, Jarius Harvin and Simpson are locks to make the roster. Burton and Aromashodu could conceivably push Jenkins for a roster spot. Beyond those two, I doubt there's any serious competition for him (assuming he can return to pre-injury form). I would guess that Wright will make it too unless he gets injured or REALLY stinks it up in the preseason.
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Purple bruise
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Overlookking the usual distain from the usual sources (coaches suck, players suck, the organization sucks blah blah), Jenkins, who is just 30 yoa, is a very competent #2 possesion receiver with good hands and skills and seems to be developing a good relationship with Ponder. He made some terrific plays last year and through out his college and NFL career. I am happy to see that he might be staying put with a decreased salary. As a another poster pointed out who do you replace him with? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmmPqLZci6Mhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6J1X81F4nshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP5SuxlH ... re=related
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S197
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Mothman wrote: Harvin and Simpson are locks to make the roster. Burton and Aromashodu could conceivably push Jenkins for a roster spot. Beyond those two, I doubt there's any serious competition for him (assuming he can return to pre-injury form). Unless he's injured, Wright should also take one of the roster spots.
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